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Over the past few months my heart rhythm goes off, the holter monitor showed over 2000 pvcs in 10 hours during a poor sleep night. My breathing pattern has changed also, seems restricted. I thought maybe the babesia was acting up and tried artemisinin but no change, also no change with magnesium glycinate. I also have orthostatic issues.
This started back up recently after trying supplemental oxygen, which I stopped weeks ago, but the symptoms remain.
Since I have strong reactions to every treatment I've tired(traditional and alternative)I haven't even been able to hit the lyme yet.
I'm concerned about going on beta blockers because I tried propanalol about 10 years ago, 1/4 dose,(at the time just to help me get thru grad school speeches)and it made me feel drunk and my arms and legs were freezing.
Is this type of med the only way to go to normalize my heart rhythm?
thanks
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lululymemom
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Bartonella can also cause heart rhythm disturbances.
I am on 1/2 dose of atenolol (25mg)which is very well tolerated. It's just enough to regulate rhythm for me. I still have tachy incidents but when I do I take another 1/2 dose and burbur and that seems to help.
There are several other supplements that claim to help heart rhythm including Taurine or Magnesium Taurate, CoQ10, ALA, Mag, or homeopathic China remedy..
If you are noticing restricted breathing or Air Hunger, it may well be Babesia. Cryptolepis might be helpful if you arent' going the abx route.
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- I tried 1/4 of the lowest dose of propanalol a few years ago and had similar effects. I turned into a big blob of jell-o in a semi-coma. I tried it a couple times, over time. Same hit.
I can't do any Rx, at all, actually. They all clobber me, even in very low doses.
lululymemom's supplement suggestions are good (I can't speak to the Rx).
I'm assuming that you are at at least 1,000 mg of magnesium a day. Sometimes, I need up to 2,000 mg.
Hawthorn has helped me. It has natural beta blocker action. Andrographis & Taurine also help. Sublingual B-6.
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I have been having rhythm issues for about a year. I started treating Babesia about 2 months ago, with Zith and Mepron. In the last week I have been working my way up to 2 Bactrim DS (morn/night)...doing a desensitization protocol due to issues when I tried Bactrim full dose...not optimum, but necessary for me. Just in the last two days my heart rhythm is the best it has been, really steady. Don't know if you could tolerate Bactrim, but I believe it has help me a lot. Hope that helps...rhythm issues are so uncomfortable.
My cardiologist recommended the beta-blocker Metoprolol. I did not start, I wanted to do some research first.
Take care
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Propranolol made my chest pains worse. Atenolol, on the other hand, was not as bad. A lot of people don't do well on beta blockers because of the side effects. I been on them for six months or more now. My heart rate is very fast, and they are working on slowing down my heart rate. I am not sure how they work against abnormal heart rhythms. And if you are that symptomatic on Propranolol, you also might have side effects from other types of Beta Blockers.
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if you have asthma symptoms or have ever had asthma be very careful with Beta Blockers. There is a reaction with asthma sufferers with them. I take a calcium channel blocker...cardizem ( generic Diltiazem 60 mg per day) and it does the trick with out the breathing/ extremity freezing issues. Calcium Channel blockers are also used for pain such as RSD nerve pain so it helps in both ways.
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Thanks everyone for the information. I will look into the suggestions. I have brain lesions so have had many symptoms the past, but this heart stuff is scary.
Hard to approach this with my primary who says he's neutral on the lyme issue, preferring to go with the neurologists MS diagnosis. Wish I had the energy to convince him.
Guess it's back to the new llnd who has a great rep but since he prescribed the oxygen to address possible carbon monoxide issues, without any testing first, I have concerns. And feel this may have gotten the babesia stirred up.
I'm going on, so thanks again..
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