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Haley
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Are people familiar with this test?

https://www.neurorelief.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=620

This revolutionary new test method provides assessment of acute and chronic Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme) infection in patients.

The combination of B. burgdorferi (Lyme) specific memory T cell response and cytokine analysis provides clinical analysis of infection status and immune response that can be utilized to guide therapeutic intervention protocols.

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Yes..my doc has been using this and it is up to 97% accurate. The XMRV docs may be using something like this to test for that too. It is a good test and is covered by some ins and medicare. It does not go by antibodies but by memory T cells against the lyme spirochete.
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Not everyone agrees on the accuracy of this test. See my previous post.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/98573

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If it's any good, you can be sure we'll soon lose access to it,like we did with darkfield, PCR, the Q-RiBb, and Yale's Flagellin-based polypeptide test.
Apparently the ELISA and the Western blot were also useful before they changed the diagnostic criteria.

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onbam I would say it depends on who is making the profit.

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Hmm, well, the powerful Yale docs would have been the ones to profit from that last test, yet still we do not have it.
While commercial conflicts of interest like those uncovered by Blumenthal are certainly part of of the picture, they simply do not explain the whole situation.

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Hmm, well, the powerful Yale docs would have been the ones to profit from that last test, yet still we do not have it.
While commercial conflicts of interest like those uncovered by Blumenthal are certainly part of of the picture, they simply do not explain the whole situation.

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This test is very accurate and as said before it is almost 100% accurate. The NIH may be using this type of testing as part of the XMRV process. It is paid for fully by Medicare and some insurances which is a big plus. It is matched with cytokine testing to see the inflammation in the body. It gives the physician more info and can show improvement as you are treated as the cytokines come down.
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Sk8ter,

Sorry but the statement that the test is almost 100% accurate raises lots of red flags for me -- just do not have that level of confidence in any tickborne test.

Also -- not everyone has the same type of inflammation. People who have mostly neuro symptoms like hubby never have elevated sed rate, ANA, etc etc -- not convinced that the cytokines would be elevated in everyone either.

Inflammation can be predominately in the brain and nowhere else in the body -- a SPECT scan could show this.

Also -- cytokine levels can change very rapidly -- hour to hour.

And if someone has been sick for years their immune system may become depressed and with lower levels of antibodies the body does not recognize inflammation.

For example -- hubby has had bilateral hilar adenopathy and numerous pulmonary nodules and enlarged lymph nodes for at least 7 years -- as seen on multiple CT and PET scans. A new LLMD tested his immune subclasses -- due to these chronic ongoing issues he is low in one of the IgG subclasses -- the one that relates primarily to pulmonary issues. Had been tested as normal several times in the past.

The test may be useful as an additional tool for some patients, but as previously reported it is not foolproof.

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(1) How much does this test cost?
(2) Some people said they got this test done as part of a research study? Is this still available?
(3) Why did neuroscience discontinue the old multi-peptide ELISA? I had it done shortly before it was discontinued and found it to be THE most valuable test available at the time.

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