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Hello,
A rather bizarre question for all:

I received a questionable but interesting forwarded email which I include below. It names some practitioners and a mysterious "cc clinic", in god knows what state, but likely California, who advise the writer on what turns out to be an apparently successful hyperthermia treatment that he self-conducted at Harbin Hot Springs. I am interested in more info on exactly what the individual did, and am therefore web-researching.

If anyone has info on M. Ril. , T. Gro., CC Clinic, or the writer T. Kln, I would be grateful for any connection you can make.

Please PM me.

Thanks so much and read below:
ellen

" I had lymes disease for many years - mostly for these past two, and as you, fellow sufragettes, know, it is almost unbearable. Jumping from one joint to another (never the next joint but, like ankle to jaw, wrist to knee, etc.). Makes you want to cash-in the old body and stand in line for another.

But, no kidding, I believe I kicked it, as no such abysmal agony has returned for about nine months. Nothing short of a miracle after all that pain, all that time. I believe that the remedy is hot (real hot!) water and antibiotics. Here's what happened.

My lymes guru T. Gro. turned me on to this route. He sent me to Mar. Ril. at RR clinic who said "Do what Tom says." So I got a prescription for one month of the antibiotic doxycyclin. (I almost never do antibiotics). I started taking it for two days before going down to Harbin Hotspring for four days where I basically sat beside their hottest tub (110 to 115 degrees), dunking myself for a couple of minutes each time every ten or fifteen...taking an hour break at midday, hanging out in this bearcoat of a bathrobe with a wool hat and socks in the 90 degree shade. Four days. No more pain. Here's why. And how!

Lymes bacteria are spirokeets with corkscrew tails designed to squiggle through membranes and barriers that other bacteria, and even blood itself, cannot. This is called the brain-blood barrier, as I understand it...and very few assailants ever get through. If they do, as in Lymes or siphilis, you go mad. Serious little fellows, these pesky spirokeets. The synobial (all this bad spelling and vague, incorrect, anatomical science is bound to be irksome to some - sorry!) fluid is kind of like the grease in sealed engine joints and bearings and whatnot (or not...sorry you mechanics) and blood and other stuff doesn't, or isn't supposed to, get through the synobial sack. But the little creeps do, and they feed on this fluid, all the while sending scouts out and about on the murderous errand of checking-out other joints elsewhere in the body. These messengers soon spy a good crop of synobial fluid in, let's say, the foot, and within five days (giving you a few days off to believe that maybe, oh god, just maybe, its all over) you're hopping about like a pogo stick. And the next aflicted joint is not the next nearest one, like the wrist, elbow, shoulder. Nooo! It's more like wrist-jaw (jaw is the worst).

So why the heat? Seems the antibiotics can't get through this blood-brain barrier either. While they're steamrolling through your body looking to wack a bacteria, the spirokeets are safely tucked away, having a close-out sale in your left knee - partying-down. Now spirokeets can't take a rise in body temperature of five or six degrees. (This is the wisdom of fevers...burning out invaders). So after several days in the Harbin Heat Stroke the spirokeet looks up and thinks: "Cheepers its hot in here." He unscrews himself through the joint membrane, back out into the bustling body, looking for the VIP lounge. The first antibiotic that comes along brains him. It's really quite simple. I think. I hope. Thanks!

R. Kln"

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Sounds a bit silly to me, although Harbin is very enjoyable - and in Sonoma Cty, so do tick protection there too!
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If someone is saying LYMES, they know nothing. [Wink]

Spirochetes do not like HEAT, so you could kill a few that way. But it has nothing to do with the BBB that I know of.

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thanks for the replies!

yes, it sounds nutty, but I remain curious. Sadly, I know of many other Lyme patients who call themselves Lymes patients, and see reputable docs!

Happy Healing to you both!

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