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America2014
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Anyone ever heard of Shea Medical in Scottsdale Arizona.

[ 07-24-2013, 03:16 PM: Message edited by: Robin123 ]

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Most hospitals do not recognize chronic lyme and do not know how to treat it.

Why are you thinking of going there?? There is only one LLMD in AZ and none in Scottsdale that I know of.

Best to stick to experienced LLMDs.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=013239;p=0

What is a LLMD? LL ND? What is ILADS?

WHY you need an ILADS "educated" or "minded" Lyme Literate doctor (whether MD or ND, or both) - starting with assessment / evaluation.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/2/24527?

Topic: Is being a member of ILADS enough?


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=015508;p=0

Diagnosing Lyme Disease (&/or whatever else is going on)

Other tick-borne infections and other chronic stealth infections - as well as certain conditions that can hold us back - are discussed here.


http://www.anapsid.org/lyme/lymeseroneg.html

Reasons for False Negative (Seronegative) Test Results in Lyme Disease
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[ 06-11-2014, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]

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Thank you Lymetoo. My father just wanted me to look into it. I thought I would get an opinion to tell him.

Appreciate your response.

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I've been perusing the website and it looks great to me. Looks very comprehensive, including integrative medicine and alternative methods. I have not heard of the chief physician there, but his credentials look just fine.

Here's the site
http://www.sheamedical.com/lyme-disease/

I can just hear the $$$$ flying out of my wallet, though...

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I've been here 12 yrs and don't know of a single person helped at this clinic.

$$$$$$$$$$ for sure

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http://www.sheamedical.com/dr-charles-schwengel/

The doctor's professional affiliations, scroll down the page

He is not an ILADS member. Anyone who treats lyme should be.

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It does appear to be a nice place and some of the treatments offered certainly can be nurturing and helpful. But you can also get good support treatments for far less in other ways.

My concern is that they would not be able to address the infections as directly as required. It's just a sense I get from the way the present their website. My "red flag" popped up a few times, especially when they say this:

"these diseases are linked to immune-compromised states" . . .

I have been to many to thought it was that simple and did not fully understand the science of lyme, etc. or what it takes to fully address it.

I wasted tons of money and years of my life, and got worse because the causes - the infections - were not directly addressed.

Support methods are not enough. They are required, to be sure, but not enough.

It's not clear how they treat these infections. Do find out more, of course, but don't settle for just what they tell you.

And, realize that treating lyme can take months and years. All cash outlays need to be considered along time-lines, too.

If money is plenty, while it does look like most of their support methods would be nice - IF you also had an ILADS educated LLMD or LL ND to give you some direction, that is best.

It could be that some of what they do here would be of help (if you had ILADS knowledge behind you).

Talk to all the lyme support groups within a 200 mile (or so) radius to this place. See if you can find personal accounts.

Still, I cannot stress enough the importance of whatever kind of doctor you choose (LLMD or LL ND), that they be "ILADS-educated" and know as much as possible about the science of lyme, etc. They know this requires far more than immune balancing. Far more.

The infections fool, trick, clobber the immune system. The infections CAUSE immune dysfunction. There is no way to "fix" the immune dysfunction UNLESS the infections are directly targeted in several overlapping ways, along with immune support.
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When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:

if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -

- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )

Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.

When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/2/13964

How to find an ILADS-educated LL:

N.D. (Naturopathic Doctor);

L.Ac. (Acupuncturist);

D.Ay. (Doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine);

D.O.M. (Doctor of Oriental Medicine);

D.O. (Doctor of Osteopathy);

D.C. (Doctor of Chiropractic);

Integrative / Holistic M.D., etc.

(Be aware that those in some categories can have zero or various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first.)

Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:

Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;

knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.

You can compare and contrast many approaches.

BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links,

BODY WORK links with safety tailored to lyme patients,

LOW HEAT INFRARED SAUNA detail,

BIOPHOTON - BIONIC 880 (& PE-1) links, and

RIFE links.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=013239;p=0

What ILADS is

& WHY you need an ILADS-educated, Lyme Literate Doctor (whether LLMD or LL ND, or both)

And, yet . . .

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/2/24527?

Topic: Is being a member of ILADS enough?

and can a doctor who is not an ILADS member be good . . . (yes, if the are truly LL - it's the "educated" part that really matters, so much of that is with ILADS - but not exclusively. Just not with the IDSA.)
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i really think ILADS are overrated. being LLMD is more than enough.
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Some ILADS doctors are not well-versed .. it's a name only for some.

My doctor was not ILADS and I am still doing well 9 years after treatment.

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If you are on the mdjunction lyme group, there is a gal that went to the Shea medical center. I cannot remember her name but it was within the last 6 months. Maybe you could ask there?

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You can check with the lyme disease support group in AZ.

I recently contacted the person in Tuscon and was told that most lyme patients are still traveling to CA to get help.

There also is a FB page for AZ Lyme group support.

Sorry, my brain is not working well enough right now to give you the links.

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I think I just answered my own question. I came to seeking a doc to post a question but answered it myself from reading your post. [Smile]
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Check the online state Lyme groups at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/arizonalyme

Maybe they can help you.

Some more resources for you:
www.lyme-aware.org/arizona.html
www.azlyme.org

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Go to their website at sheamedical.com and read the above and beyond antibiotics article! You won't regret it.
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Brand new member bringing up a 4 month old thread? Interesting.

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And what's wrong with new people? I feel very strongly about Lyme and I want to get the word out.
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You are welcome as long as you are not here to promote a business.

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They say they have a way to treat biofilm so that the antibiotics work better. I also get the impression they do some sort of treatment for immune dysfunction. But what either of those consist of is not described. It would be nice to know, and to hear from patients who have been cured by this. If they did have an answer no one else has found, seems like we would be hearing about it everywhere from patients.

They know the problems and are quoting the right people, but I am not convinced they have an answer no one else has found yet.

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I wanted to share my story. When I first arrived at Shea Medical, I was very sick, and my health was only getting worse as each day passed. I had been diagnosed 4 years ago with Lyme Disease, and had tried conventional treatments, all which did nothing. The doctor took his time to listen to me, answer my questions, and clearly describe my illness and treatment. Shea Medical saved my life. Their cutting-edge integrative approach to treating my Lyme disease is what finally allowed me to start living again. I spent 9-weeks, Monday through Friday at their clinic and received the best care that I have ever received before. From the front office staff to the doctors - everyone was compassionate and went above and beyond to ensure that I was comfortable and getting all the support I needed to get through this very hard treatment.

I started out in a wheelchair and walked out of there without assistance. All of my symptoms are 95% better, and I know that I will only keep getting healthier and healthier. Not only did they use the best treatment protocol out there to treat my Lyme Disease, they gave me such knowledge about the disease and what I needed to do to keep it in remission.

I will forever be grateful to the entire staff at Shea Medical - they forever changed my life. Anyone looking to be treated for Lyme or any other chronic illness will receive the best care there.

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