Topic: Z clinic in NYC... Has anyone gone? He uses herbs
tricia386
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Abx are not the answer...anyone been to dr. Z clinic in NYC who uses herbs?
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CD57
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I'm on a couple things of his now. They are much stronger (good!) than other herbs I've been on (Buhner herbs, Woodland Essence, etc). I'm not sure how far they will take me but they are strong.
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tricia386
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Didn't want know so much about the doctor more about he protocol. Anyway to move it back
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Go ahead and post it again in Medical .. and ask the questions about his protocol. Not possible to move this again.
Word the subject line differently.
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Keebler
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- Tricia,
I did better with this protocol than with any other herbal endeavor. I've not done the alcohol based ones but have done all the others (although, in fairness, never had the money to do anything in full force for very long).
Indeed, if I had the money, I would do this. I did fabulous with this protocol twice, for a few months each time but I had to stop due to budget.
They are very reasonable for such top quality, and all the research, of course.
I have seen him in person in a workshop and we spoken privately afterward. I don't live near there but he was always helpful with questions.
I know of several who did very well with this. Antibiotics may be incorporated for some, at some time, however.
Those in the workshop were all doing well. Of course, it will still take time and it may not be fully contained for everyone.
I did well just on the herbal protocol and really wish I had the finances to do the full protocol again. My guess is that it would take at least a year, maybe longer depending on time ill and the number of coinfections.
Although, one will smell of garlic, there are ways to work with that to a degree (greens powders and just tell everyone in advance that your diet is high in garlic and suggest mouth water dishes to them so they all start smelling of garlic, too.)
For a special occasion, you could substitute the Coptis formula for the Allicin but that Coptis formula is not strong enough for long term (IMO). Allicin is the best I've EVER used. Still, the full protocol is required for the best effect. It's very well designed.
You might communicate with the lyme support groups within a couple hundred mile radius.
Topic: Garlic vs Allicin -
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Keebler
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- Backing up, you say that antibiotics are not the answer. They can be, and have been for many, though not for others.
The biggest determining factor is the expertise of the LLMD or LL ND who is prescribing and monitoring.
Many don't provide a strong enough abx protocol nor address all the infections - nor offer the support needed. Too many fail at too low of a dose, lack of combination and lack of rotation - for too short a time and without liver / adrenal support.
So much depends on the education (their on-going education, too), their skill, their experience, etc.
Still, in you know that your body (or ears) just can't "do" abx, I think either the Hepapro avenue, Buhner, &/or Rife would be the paths to focus on, as long as you have a good LL ND guiding you. -
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