I love receiving emails from everyone and having that personal connection and shares about each other's journey. However, there are so many of new people log in to LymeNet for info and support on how to deal with their health.

I want to share and provide some insights and info of my journey so perhaps this could make a difference for someone out there.

I cannot say this is the only way to be well again; it is the one that is finally effective in my opinion after so many others treatments I've tried. Ultimately, you are the one who must choose for yourselves not anyone else.

I will post this in segments since there's lots of info to share and I still have to manage my personal health.

I welcome any question from anyone as long as it is something about the treatments, products, personal thoughts and insights. This is very important for those who are searching for info and I want this to be supportive and effective.

First of all, I'm not a doctor and had never care about scientific topic so I will not provide any advice or suggestions on those issues. I'm sure someone one else on LymeNet is more qualify to provide that.

Secondly, I will use the positive thinking in regard to improving the health instead of "getting rid of lyme disease" which cause a negative energy in the speaking. I'd learned that negative thoughts and speaking will prevent our healing energy from healing our body.

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I have had my share of meds and drugs thru the years since my health went down hill. I have also tried several other alternative and natural treatment programs with some improvement, but I still have symptoms which left me bed bound, home bound, sick and tired of being sick every moment of the day, and then frustration kicked in to really get you. I have every symptoms that most of you are so familiar with so not necessary to share them now.

In August 2004 I finally discovered my first life changing treatment with Podi Patch, www.podipatch.com . This is somewhat a strange method for first time user, but it definitely a must in my opinion.

Podi patch cleans and detox chemicals toxins thru the soft tissues and lymphatic tissues which in turns relief body aches & pains especially the ankles and feet area. For years my legs, ankles, and feet hurt, throbbed, numbed, and had swollen twice of its size which caused me to wake up constantly throughout my sleep.

After years of not able to walk without having severe pain this was the joyous moment for me. Podi patch had been proven to remove mercury, lead, asbestos, pcb's, arsenic, copper, aluminum, cadmium, nickel, methyl alcohol, isopropyl alcohol, benzene, thallium, thulium, and dye set. I had mine tested and what a shock!!!

Podi patch also improves my chronic fatigue symptom which was a result of my hypothyroid problem. I was sleeping 12 to 18 hours a day depending on how often I was waking up during my sleep because of body aches & pains. This was a major vicious cycle for me and I believe for most of us.

Since my pain has been reduced to almost nothing I sleep like a baby thru the whole night and my usual 8 hours sleep is adequate. Also my CFS symptom is completely gone. This is the best gift that I can ever give to myself for treatment. It definitely worth every penny I spend on it.

There are cheaper version out there, but I would not want to waste my money or time on them. Actually they are not even cheap if you have to purchase 2 or 3 times of the quantity to get the similiar result of podi patch then why bother or take the chance. There is a new & improved version they have recently and these are fantastic!!!

I will stop here and will continue later. All comments or questions are welcome.

Some believe that posts like this are advertisements for a product. This is not allowed on Lymenet. Sharing of info is great and encouraged but this has become blatant advertisement.

No arguement here that patches help. They are not a cure and should not be put forth as one. There are many brands available at varying costs. You should check all sources including ebay. I get great results from much less expensive pads.

Just my opinion..........

Peace,
robi

On this post I have no interest in promoting or advertising a product, however, I am interested in promoting natural healing treatment programs to improves the existing symptoms.

Many others have recommended products that they believe, in including yourself with your ebay web site. I am requesting that any shares or comments are to be of beneficial for everyone to read and perhaps applying this to their regimen. There are many people looking for answers or ideas to help them thru their hardship and this is my contribution.

This post is my personal share/journal about my journey back to health using natural treatment programs that I will share daily and I request that you honor my commitment and intention. I appreciate that. Peace to you also.

If I am on a detoxing program, but then using products contains toxic chemicals I would defeat my purpose. And then I'm wondering why I'm still sick and why it takes so long to be well again. Of course, my normal reaction would be that the program DOES NOT WORK! (It's much easier to blame on something else or someone else than being responsible.)

FYI, there's NO MAGIC PILL exists or a one single product to cures all disease. I've learned there are many products and programs that I have to incorporate to be where I am today! I will share all of my programs and products as I continue.

I have also learned NOT to give up, doubt, lose my focus, and being frustrated during my journey. Of course, it is much easier said than done so I enlisted support from friends and knowledgeable health advisors I know from the company I am purchasing my products from. These individuals know their products well to advise me if I experience difficulties or questions.

For my organic produces I choose to shop at my local farmer markets because they only sell in season produce so I know it is fresh pick. The price is less than regular markets selling organic produces. At farmer market I also ask where their produce are grown and organic compost used only. The answer I like the most is they grow it themselves and only organic compost used.

A very interesting thing I've learned about organic fruits. Want to test what you know about organic apples?

Ok, how long do you think it takes for an apple to be picked from the tree until you purchase it from the supermarket? Hm.......
you have your answer......

Well, it takes up to 2 years. Yup! up to 2 years. Why? They pre-pick the apples and have a "special" gas sprayed on them to "freeze" the aging process and when the demand is in they once again sprayed another "special" gas to de-freeze the aging process and ready to sell. So...how can you tell if the apples are not sprayed?

Very simple. Do this test and you'll know. Purchase an organic apple from farmer market and an organic apple from regular market (I did this with an organic apple from Whole Foods). BTW, my farmer market apple costs $1.00 to $1.50 per lb and Whole Foods was more expensive.

Now...start taking a bite from each one simulaneously, but make sure you know where which one is purchased from. If 2 apples are too much for you to eat why don't you have a friend to share the apples and this experiment with. Notice the inside of the which apple turns to brownish color first and how dark it gets. The one does change is the real organic and non sprayed apple. I've tested this many times with different friends and my farmer market ones always come out as winner.

One time I buried 1/2 of a sprayed apple into my backyard soil and one week later I digged it up and it still there intact. Imagine even a worm or bug does not want to eat that apple then why do I want to eat that! I've tasted the best flavor and sweetness from fresh squeezed organic oranges and delicious flavor and texture of organic bananas among many other vegetables and fruits. These are the best experiences for my taste buds.

I apply this same principle for my organic treatment programs. If it's not organcically grown I am not interested. Of course, you have to take into consideration of extra cost for organics. Well, I'd rather have less movie outings or rental, less dining out, less shopping or less unnecessary spending in general and have my organic. Organic will help me get my health back not other spendings.

I chose not to use any pharmaceutical drugs/meds for my treatments years ago. Why? All pharmaceutcal drugs/meds contain toxins and synthetic materials. I need to DETOX so why would I put them back into my body. In my opinion I don't want drugs in my system because they only suppress my symtoms instead of healing my body when using natural methods. With natural healing treatments it takes longer, but the results is more desirable for me.

I hope this info is a contribution for the day.

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Originally posted by robi:

Some believe that posts like this are advertisements for a product. This is not allowed on Lymenet. Sharing of info is great and encouraged but this has become blatant advertisement.

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I have eaten only organic for many years ( at least 35), including a number where I grew my own food. I still got Lyme disease.

It is certainly good to eat the best quality food you can, whether or not you have Lyme. And detoxing is essential in the kind of world we live in.

But each person will have to choose their protocols by what works for them. For me, I have absolutely had to add in modern medicines.

However, my commitment are to contribute and support those who accept and appreciate the sharing of my personal journey and experiences. Encouragement and possibilities of getting healthy again are what's on a sick person's mind.

Like everyone else I was on LymeNet to get info and ideas for my health issues and that's what I'd discovered. I discovered my recommended products from reading posts on LymeNet so this site does provide answers for me and for many others as well.
These info are desperately needed by someone who is very ill right now like I was.

Perhaps I am promoting and benefit from farmer markets with organic produce across America by bringing more business to them. Yes, I am promoting. Promoting BEING HEALTHY AGAIN!!!

Your organic foods info are so useful and make sense. I enjoy reading your ideas.

This is better than reading complaints and more complaints. I like your positive comments and encouragments instead of others negative thoughts. I call this "a fresh breath of air". You are very generous with your contribution here. Please keep it up.

I continue to eat organic, and use natural treatments whenever possible. For some, that may be enough, I don't know. But it wasn't for me, and I know it hasn't been for many.

I would never want anyone to suffer for as long as I did, only to keep getting worse. My intention, also, is to help people find what will help them get better. I have been succesful in doing so with quite a few people.

Nothing is better than hearing someone you helped has gotten well.

My concern is that new people be as well educated as possible on all options before making their treatment choices. I don't personally believe there is only one way to get well from this illness. Individuals will have to learn as much as they can, and experiment to find what works for them.

If podi-patch and eating organic works for you, thats great. It may make more of a difference if you haven't been doing those kinds of things for years, as I had been. You may have more toxins to clear out, so the impact may be significant.

I am giving another point of view, which is equally valid. When I began taking antibiotics, I was bedridden. I had been sick for ten years, getting increasingly worse. All the purification protocols made me weaker and weaker.

When I started antibiotics, I hadn't taken so much as an aspirin for 30 years. It was a big step for me to change those ideas. But antibiotics and other meds got me back up out of bed. I'm not 100%, but I am much better, thanks to these drugs.

I also talk to many people who need advice about treating Lyme. As far as I can see, most people do best on a combination of natural and chemical treatments. The exact ones, and the balance, is different for all. We need to have room for a wide variety of options. I don't personally believe that only strong drugs is the answer, either.

Its fine for you to post your experience. It is a public board, though, and you will get varying opinions in response. That is part of what this board is about. Our differing opinions is part of what makes the board valuable. Readers can then make up their own minds as to what they choose to try.

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Originally posted by Lymetoo:
Why are all of fulfillment's "friends" new posters?

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I noticed this too.....and they even registered with in 2 weeks of each other.

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Originally posted by fulfillment09:
FYI, there's NO MAGIC PILL

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I have to agree with the posters that are challenging fulfillment's pov. While living the best life we can by eating well, taking supplements and taking care of our bodies can be of benefit, this alone cannot cure lyme disease. I think it is terribly misleading to think that lyme can be cured by eating organic foods and taking supplements.

Everyone's bodies react differently to the disease, but I believe that the first line of attack is antibiotics. I may be oversimplistic in my thinking, but this is where one must start. Then some alternative measures can be introduced.

I realize that 'fulfillment' is sharing their experience but it is anectdotal and to presume because it may work for one individual does not mean it will work for all. And I think too there is a problem in the 'delivery' - it is coming across as an infomercial.

There are so many things that we use that are so toxic, that any chronic illness, in my opinion, will benefit and benefit greatly is going organic as much as we can.

I already filter all my water in my house even our tub and shower having a water filter for those, also. You cannot do this all at one time for there are so many changes we have to do in order to be organic...which takes time to get all the products together that are killing us and keeping us still stck even after years of taking abx.

I started with the water coming into my home. I now have organic soap and lotions. I'm adding organic all the time to my organic program. Start reading about organic products...there are plenty site on the web, some better than others.

I do like to HIGHLY recommend the book by Kevin Trudeau, called, "Natural Cures "They Don't Want You to Know About."

I, too, like Carol Alt's books on eating Raw Foods. Both books are for sale on the net...hey, do a google to find them.

For me, this is going to be the ONLY way for me to live. I started my STOP-SMOKING
campaign at the same time...Jan 6, 2005 and have found with my eating raw and God's daily help, I have not even had an urge to have a cigarette.

Eating raw doesn't have to be boring, and I really have been full, but, with only GOOD things.

We haven't met, but, as you can see by when I started coming here to LymeNet, I've been at this trying to get well without a lot of success...and I've been seeing a very well respected doctor for years now. He highly recommends that we put more and more of the natural way into our lives.

I just wish I had started this sooner. It's hard to get all the items that I need to do these things for we live in a small town and don't have an organic store.

Going organic, you'll will find that the organic food has so much flavor that non-organic foods have been poisoned by insecticides, bleach, etc., that takes away the flavor.

Good luck to you on your journey to wellness. I just hope more folks would jump on this bandwagon.

Rosemary

I've been away for few days and finally reading everyone's thoughts and comments are so greatly appreciated.

It is a great gift for me to receive all type of comments especially when I considering these are of great value to me. In life there are black and white so, of course, there are positive and negative. However, it is how we as an individual allowing these concepts affecting us.

I had learned a great deal from negativities and later utilized these experiences to support my choices in life and having them becomes something of positive effects for me. Well, one thing that I'm sure of is my grammar since I'm still not so good at. I can use the excuse that I wasn't born in U.S. and English is my secondary language, but that's not a good enough excuse for me. So grammar class is my next project.

I am totally grateful for those who understand my purpose in this posting. As I stated early on this is intended for sharing all of my discoveries combining which products and various ways of altering my daily lifestyles to enhance my immune system which in turns may support my body to fight back these aweful symptoms.

Organic foods and products are not what could stop lyme disease. I NEVER stated that. It is utmost important to read any comments and ideas clearly so that one does not misunderstand to judge the writer's expressions. What we read and what we CHOOSE to understand are so crucial for ourselves - not others. Example - if our mother tell us to drink and we eat then whose fault is that?

So....I'm not here to lecture anyone, however, it is my commitment that everyone understand my purpose is to provide what I've learned and discovered in my journey so these info could be of help for others. If I can make a difference for just one person I am grateful and satisfied.

I have so much to offer and willing to do this. It is impossible for me to share everything in one day so this is going to e one posting that you will log in to read from time to time. Due to my other commitments unfortunately I am not able to share consistently everyday, but I will the moment I have the oppportunity to do so.

God bless everyone.

Just because I don't like to broadcast my result that does not mean you or anyone else have the right to be righteous or vilify. Perhaps I should tell everyone if I'd had my bath for the day.

Fyi, I don't like the word "lyme disease" because it projects negative energy in the expression. When you say you have disease it means dis-ease with yourself as a whole. If ones constantly expressing oneself with a disease then you are being diseased. That is like you're constantly calling ourself "stupid", therefore, you are stupid. No thanks, I'm not interested in poisoning myself.

Negative attitude is just another form of poison and I will not allow myself to be drag into.

I heard about Podi Patch from one of your old post and you were at one time was very nice to me and we even private emailed each other. What's going on with these negative comments about me? This is a support site for others so don't bring personal issue here, please. I'm not interested.

Just to protect myself from nonsense this past few days, had wasted precious time for me to share more useful ideas. Everyone has the right to express themself and I have the right not to explain myself so I will ignore personal issues.

I don't believe that some lyme patients SHOULDNT be using abx to get over the infection.

I do believe this though: If ya find something that works, then by all means, continue to use it.

Abx did NOT work for me ( except in the beginning ) and I was PCR positive, at that time, for lyme.

Oddly, enough ( gasp) I just had ART testing done that not only shows I DONT have lyme, but a huge question as to whether I actually ever did. But i DO have bunches and bunches of candida. I'd be a little bit upset if someone laughed at my candida treatment.

But, on the same token, I did read a comment on here. If you havent been diagnosed with lyme disease, I doubt it's fair to tell anyone that you beat it naturally.

It would be unfair for me to tell everyone that I beat lyme by not doing candida treatment, etc.

Its really none of my business, though, so i could care either way.

You are feeling good, thats great. If you don't have lyme, don't promote this as somethign that "helped your lyme"

Fullfillment09 - Thanks God you are positive and wanting to help others. Keep going and ignore the "craps". Btw, when are you sharing more goodies?

Lymeinhell - I can tell why you are in hell with that attitude. Btw, I purchased patches from that Therapy Chi patch that you recommended. They were the same like podi patch with different label and costs more. Definitely a much better deal with www.podipatch.com plus a nice gift.

Darn it, I forgot to mention your name since you asked everyone to say that when ordering. Hmmmmm.....are you working for them by any chance?