AliG
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I think I'm just about at my wit's end.
I thought I had problems thinking before, it's even worse now. I haven't been able to sleep since my LLMD appt.
Long story short, my daughter's Ped is a duck. When I got my bites, tests & dx, I went back & bullied her PCP into a script for the tests. It took me a whole heck of a lot of nerve, but I did it.
I got the call from her that all the results were negative. I wanted to believe this. I certainly didn't want to believe any of my own theories or my nagging maternal intuition. I'd much rather believe that I am a paranoid fool.
My intuitions nagging got the best of me. I decided that I would talk to my LLMD about this at my next appt. I realized that I didn't have copies of her bloodwork, so I requested them from Ped.
Quest WB - result "negative" IGG 41Kda pos, IGM - 23 Kda pos. Yes, thank you - I know. (I could have vomitted, right then & there.)
I brought this to LLMD and, since he is no longer taking Peds, asked him to take a quick look & give me his recommendation. While he looked, I quickly blurted out a short list of the problems she's had that make me suspicious.
LLMD told me he found the 23Kda to be quite suspicious & that I should definitely get the opinion of a Ped LLMD. His office gave me the LDA's # & site for referral.
I did that and posted here in " Seeking a Doctor ", trying to get some info. I realize that any parent, faced with the all-consuming task of trying to save their own child from the nightmare of Lyme disease, is not likely to be constantly checking that section for newbies.
This is why I am appealing here for help. I would be eternally grateful if anyone would be so kind as to offer me some direction here. I need a great Ped LLMD, ASAP!
Please if you can offer any input as far as personal experiences with Drs. in NJ or surrounding areas and pm me some good Ped LLMD names & numbers, I would really appreciate it.
I would also like to apologize to those of you who have offered me wonderful information in my posts for my own TBD issues. I want to thank each and every one of you personally and hope to do it eventually.
Right now I can't even think about my own issues, I can hardly function right now. I hope you all can understand and be patient with me. I love you all and really appreciate how supportive you are. I hope you know that.
My thanks to anyone who can help me!
Ali
How come there's no crying Graemlin?
PS - Please DO NOT FEED my pet troll, It bites!
PPS - Thanks to "the powers that be" for pest control! It's much appreciated!
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Thanks True for your hugs & kisses. I really needed that right now! You're "True"ly a good friend.
Back attcha, Ali
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Ali!
I'll be talking with my LLMD (in NY) this afternoon and will ask him for a referral.
He is extremely well-wired into the community, and keeps a heck of a roledex. He has been even able to come up with names of GI specialists etc. here in Baltimore who are open-minded and good to patients.
Will PM you after I speak with him.
Until then, the biggest possible hugs, Ali. I'm so sorry you're facing this. Thank goodness for your daughter that she has a mom who knows what to do in this situation, and how to get the best possible help and care.
Love, Dilly
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I'm SOOOOO sorry this is happening! Her Pedi needs to be shot at sunrise!
How's this for something crying?
Hugs to you and your child!
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quote:Originally posted by Ladylee210: May I ask how old your Daughter is?
Certainly, my baby girl is 6 years old. (and please don't tell her I said that because she tells me "MOM! I'M NOT A BABY!") Of course, I tell her she'll ALWAYS be MY baby!
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There is another good peds doc in Chester County, PA. Only problem was last year when we checked she had almost a 1 year waiting list for new patients.
I don't imagine that has changed but it may be worth a call.
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Bettyg,
Thank you so much for your prayers & support! I see you've been trying to help me all over the place. I really appreciate all of your efforts!
Ali
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Dear Jeffsdad,
Thank you so much for all the information. I really appreciate your taking the time to help guide me.
I'm very sorry that you have had to go through so much difficulty of your own and I'm so glad that Dr. J has been able to help. I pray that God will smile down upon you and your family and ease your burden.
Thanks again for sharing with me.
Ali
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Dilly,
What can I say?
Thank you so much for going out of your way to get information for me. I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate that you would do this.
You really are a sweetheart. I'm grateful for the much needed love and support, as well. You really are a great friend.
Ali
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TuTu to the rescue!
The blue mouse is perfect, except I'm not wagging my tail! You did make me smile, though, as usual.
I think it's looking like I may have no alternative but to join the troops in the pilgrimage to Dr.J.
I'm wondering where the LDA has found all the Ped LLMDs in NJ that they recommended, as nobody here seems to have heard anything about any of them.
Thank you too, for the much needed hugs and sympathy!
Ali
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Dear Ali-
I spoke with my LLMD a bit ago . No help there, sorry. His only recommendation was Dr. J. or that you call Dr. J's office to ask for a recommendation.
It seems to me I've read on this board that Dr. J has personally trained other peds. Have you seen that too? I'll look again to see if I can dig up posts.
And,have you posted for help to the Yahoo support group for moms/children with lyme?
My heart is with you- Dilly
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Dilly,
Thanks so much for trying with your LLMD and the other ideas you've offered.
I didn't even know about the support group. Thank you for that, too. I'll have to check it out.
Thanks again!
Ali
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and in case it applies, for women with lyme who are/want to be pregnant AND for moms who have kids born with congenital lyme. (doesn't seem very active, but maybe check archives if nothign else?
There are more mom with kids support groups out there. I'll be searching oiver the next couple days and will let you know the best of what I see.
Super big hugs to you...
love, Dilly
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AliG
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Jeffsdad,
I'm sorry, I believe I may have caused this confusion by posting this in "General Support".
There is a post at the top of "Seeking a Doctor", requesting that we just post initial & state for doctors' protection.
This is done here for fear that they will be targeted for harassment by those opposed to their caring treatment of patients.
I have written down the info for Dr. C, if you would like to click on the pad & pencil in your post to delete the rest of the name.
Thank you so much for the information. I really appreciate it.
Ali
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quote:Originally posted by jeffsdad: Lymetoo: Not a problem, I'll directly PM the info next time.
Is there a section for do's/don'ts for this board?
I've checked the faq and didn't see the "rules".
Thanks...
I was wondering where the rules were the other day. Not sure.
There is a link at the top of Seeking a DR and in Medical about posting drs' names.
No worries...you took care of it!!
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Dilly,
Thanks so much for finding those links, you really are a great help. Maybe I can see if anyone there knows about any of these Drs.
These are the Drs. I got through LDA: Dr.V on Staten Island. Dr.M in NYC Dr.L in NJ Dr.D in NJ Dr.C in NJ Dr.D in NJ (two dif ones)
I haven't been able to get any feedback on any of them, so I don't know what to think, at this point.
Michele,
I just checked your post. I am going to the same LLMD that your kind poster recommended. I know what she would tell you and I am in absolute agreement.
When I first came here I tried, as I'm sure everyone does, to find a LLMD who is covered by my insurance. No such luck.
I finally broke down & just went. I laid out the $350 (well my credit card did) and it was the best money I had ever spent.
I really believe that he is an excellent diagnostician. The symptoms you mention in your post also sound like they may be related to one of the co-infections, for which he originally established the tick connection.
There is also a female Dr.E in Jackson who is held in high regard. You can pm me if you want her information.
Good luck and Thanks for your prayers. One can never have too many of those! I'll pray for you too.
Ladylee,
I have not heard of her, but I would be very grateful if you could pm me the specifics. Thank you so much for your help.
Jeffsdad,
Thanks for your excellent housekeeping job! and also for all of your support.
TuTu,
Thanks helping me patrol my post. I've been having a bit of trouble keeping up with life lately. I think I've lost my other posts & didn't properly thank people. I hope I haven't hurt anyone's feelings.
That also reminds me, poor Stymie's got MRSA, I have to see how he's doing. I also want to try to look up gallbladder stuff because it seems like everyone's having trouble with that lately. I haven't been able to get to it yet.
I also have to figure out what's up with poor True and try to touch base with Cori. I also have to pm pq.
I feel like my head is spinning. I have to run to my dd's school with "Brownie" vest, I just managed to iron all the stuff on.
I feel like I'm peddling as fast as I can, but I just can't keep up!!
Thank you all for caring so much. I don't know where I'd be without you.
Ali
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Ali, if you don't thank folks right away with so much going on; don't worry about it. Lymenetters understand only too well.
They are happy to help/assist others. Take care of yourself thru all of this too ok! Bettyg
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We are working on it my dear...not to worry!
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Ali ~ How are you doing?
Take a some deep breaths. Try and do something as simple as you can today. Anything that will help hold the overwhelm at bay. Coloring is very nice, for instance.
Hang in there kiddo!
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AliG
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Wentworth,
Thanks for the heads up about my mailbox. My LLMD thinks 23KDa(burgdorferi specific)IGM (active infection) is suspicious. He Dxd me based on this on my Quest + symptoms. I think that a good LLMD should be able to do the same for my dd.
I wouldn't really want to go the Igenex route with her Ped because I don't feel confident that she has the knowledge to treat her properly.
True & Melanie,
Thanks so much for your help & concern. I had gone OCD into research for Tincup and then off into mindless nonsense about "sugar water" because my "Lyme-Brain" is having trouble coping with overload.
I really appreciate your support!
Ali
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up for any more info, please....
Thanks! Ali
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I just realized the Dr.P you were referring to, Ladylee. The Peds Neuro.
I thought I called there, but I may have overlooked it somehow. I'm giving it another shot.
Thank you, very much.
Would you happen to know any info like what fees she charges? If you do & you could PM me, I would really appreciate it.
Ali
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She is extremely good is well known and saw all 3 of my children in the past when they were little, as - as over time when it came out that this illness can be passed onto baby's - I myself had my last 2 in the yrs 1987 and 1988.
I myself was not diagnosed until 1990, my son (1987) was born 3 weeks early - my daughter (1988) was born 4 weeks early and at 4 weeks old wound up in ICU for 9 days for "unexplained reasons" it wasn't until later in early 1990's that it started to come to the horizon about it being passed thru birth.
My normal Ped Doc, at my strong request tested them both at the time and he told me they were NEG. after I requested a copy of there test results and knowing how to read them - BOTH tested were really positive.
Needless to say I had him up against the wall about this (literally) and off I went to Dr.P - my children were NOT having symptoms and have not had symptoms since birth - however both had mega doses over there toddler yrs for aliments, and my daughter when she was in ICU had IV, Dr P - predicts that she had lyme at birth - but yrs later both children because of having the on again off again antibiotics they were put into remission early on.
Today they are both young adults and are normal - healthy - active - athletic - and honor roll students (18 and 19) - in college.
I will email you.
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I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I can feel the emotions for you. I'm really glad that you were able to get control of everything and save your children from a terrible fate.
I just got the callback from Dr.P's office today. I was informed that they don't treat Lyme and I need to go to an ID specialist for that.
Thanks for trying.
I wonder if all this repeated "Ped LLMD" rejection I'm going through has anything to do with the new IDSA guidelines. Is Dr.J the only Ped in the country strong-willed enough to stand up to them? Is he the only Dr. who truly cares about preventing the suffering of children?
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I'm in shock, she was very well known for treating lyme in children, very BIG name, very aggressive and most often the ONLY Ped Doc that would go the extra mile to get to the bottom of a child's sickness.
Someone got to her!
Man oh man what the heck is it gonna take for our govn't to admit and submit to this illness.
It's just unbelievable!
I'm so sorry!!!!
Call that other number I gave you.
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AliG
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It made me physically ill.
There's definitely something very wrong going on.
I'm not sure what # you're talking about. My brains really bin spinning in circles a lot lately. It makes me very tired. I'll have to go read through everything to see if I can find it.
Thanks again!
Ali
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Let me get this straight ... you've gotten names and numbers for 7 or so "ped" LLMDs and ONLY Dr. J is taking patients, period?
Are there peds LLMD on the west coast? Where are the Peds LLMD?!?!?
I am in same boat, and praying for Dr. J for many reasons, but good grief. It is just hard to believe there is such a draught ... well, maybe not so hard to believe, just outrageous.
Good luck from one concerned mom to another!
Hayley
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I wonder if the Dr's response was only in answer to a "cold call" survey type question.....did not know patient, etc.
What they do in the office may be different?
The dr. does not really know who is on the other end of the phone.
There is definite andd well-deserved/reality based fear....look at what is happening in Texas.
Just a thought.
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AliG
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Hmmm, I wonder.
Do you think they might have considered how their cold, callused(sp) response might make a parent with a legitimate concern for the welfare of their child feel? I guess maybe that wasn't a chance they could take.
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Just know I am thinking of you and yours and sending my prayers.
I hope you find someone soon
You should not have to be dealing with this crap
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Dr J is the only active lyme ped in the country that i am aware of.
Dr P., and since she was shot down more than 6 yrs ago , i would spell out her name, but so disturbing, despite my once almost photographic memory, i can't remember her name and lots of other stuff..
Petroska? similar. anyway, my son is 12 now and i did not find out - despite my daughter going to newtown friends school because of her undx lyme, and her classmates' mum, a reknowned ped. I.D. specialist, who though brilliant, needed to be in a small classroom due to her undx lyme - but the ped. I.D. specialist did feel it so so important that i know that she was on the base station of Mt. Everest. it took until 4th grade until her daughter finnally got a better grade on a test than my daughter. creepy people. i nearly died the year my daughter was in 2nd grade. and ped ID "special" person knew the yr before. before the extreme nerve pain kicked in.
these are not nice people. but there mummies and daddies bought them med degrees, and they are hell bent that thier monied children will follow suit. and not give a damn about others.
Dorthey Petruska. sure i got the spelling wrong, but that was the good ped. specialist that was treating lyme who got shot down more than 6 yrs ago. the neuro i was seeing at the time, who was just going to let me die, and despite my finding photos of me on "children's beach" on Nantucket Island where babesia has been known to be - i'm tired, and forget words, and how to say what i want, but lot's of babesia there. and where i got the killer infection. twice. '90 and '93 (just before i became pregnant with my son whom obviosly was born with it, but our competitive and - again, can't remember the word i want to use, but, how did this woman even make it in to med school? and she wrote at least one article back then in a children's magazine about lyme disease riddled with inaccuracies, and finding out my son, whom i insisted to her was sick from birth, but she assured me was "normal", she sees lots of babies like my son. she's seeing lots of congenital lyme babies. and feeling superior, because she treats her kids. didn't give a danm about mine. even when i found the photo of me with bulls eye rash when my daughter was a baby. after that, she wanted nothing to do with us. lives in a very nice house in an upscale neighborhood. was a guest at our small swimclub. why many there could care less about us. she was such a "nice" lady. and a pediatrition! pediatritions care for all children! yeah, right!
though she did care very much when princess Diana died. you see, she sort of looked liked her, only with brown eyes, but did have her hair cut like princess di, and showed off her pink (or light blue) suits with white stockings and pumps to the lady's - adminitrative assistentents in the office. when my children, not doing well do to undx lyme, appt. at least 30 minutes late. the sicker we got, the longer she made us wait for routine appt. she was very competetive. and not thrilled that my daughter could sit up , and started to talk at just 5 month's old. was happy to see us not do well. people like this should not be allowed to be drs.
when i found the photo of me with the bullseye rash ( killer '90 infection, but also infected in '93 - just before i got pregnant with my son and so sick during that pregnancy, and no drs here in Bucks Co. willing to treat me, and they 2 more infections. UPENN drs and their buddies making fun of me at this point when i was about to die. drs think patients about to die are funny? among them are grant t. liu, upenn neuro-opt who now specializes in pediatric neuro-opt. has spent sevearal yrs in developing 4 drugs to treat symptoms (NOT CURE!) of pediatric M.S. - and here in philly what is that usually? scarially still, he has a book with fellow upenn "buddies" training the next crop of neuro-opt. drs. and thinks it quite funny what he did to me and my children (and my husband has this too we learned by PCR). giggle giggle silly! and school nurse has been worse that horrible! ( we pulled our daughter from newtown friends - friends! - after i found the photo and got my kiddies dx). but grant t liu, and you cannot believe what he says as he knowingly lied to me so much, but grant t liu said he grew up where i grew up ( after i'm sure realizing i did not get this once, but many times, and why so sick ), said he grew up where i did. and the so ironic thing is that i was so sick at the time, i could not remember the street i lived on so only told him "off of (thru street").
really sad is that carole saline, reporter for phila. mag. was going to do an expose about this in spring 2000. i told the "fellow moms" from the "Odessey of the Mind" group my daughter was in at the time. one fellow mom and her intimate psychologist friend and also "fellow mom", i had no idea were the enemy. the making money hariming people "Allen Steeres". now i know what to make of their creul behaviour. but then, i was confiding in them.
so so ironic. our friend, Scott Saft, was the son of Carole Saline's close friend. both my husband and i know realize, like lots of us here, had Lyme. we can't say 100% sure, but we know. and my husband had for quite a while accused me of saying everyone has lyme. but now he knows better. and knows he has it. pos PCR's don't lie. sorry OJ!
Carole Saline was going to do an expose article in spring 2000, but i told ped ID "fellow mom" about it, and guess what?! article never happened! instead, "i was on the base station of mt everest" ped i.d. special mom, was along with her collegue, "best ped. I.D. specialist" in an article instead about "best" area pediatric specialists. so much for "best of philly" philadelphia magazine. too sad. too too sad. scott a couple of yrs later tied weights on himself and jumped into the Delaware River. thanks phila mag!!!
the ped neuro at the neuro i was seeing (and took insurence! i've been disabled since '90, and although after the abnormal brain spect scan from columbia presbyterian in '01, and so now they agree ( said before to deney me disabilaty that i was not disabled according to drs - thanks area "drs" ), but that and with the photos taken in '90, agree i am infact disabled, but denied benefits due to drs and can't prove i've been in such bad condition for so many yrs. i do have to say, that the woman i saw the second time, very much wanted me to be approved , and also told me my children should be getting benefits...her father died of complications of lyme. but old lady in harrisburgh did not agree. maybe she's dead now.
i've rambled. but i do need to say is after i found photo's of me with bullseye rash taken on children's beach ( why do they call it that? at the time, i did not take our daughter their again due to all the oil from the ferry boats ), the ped neuro (robert wood johnson) told me our son's pos pcr was a false pos PCR. false pos PCR? and backed that up by saying Dorthey Petruscka (sp?) sends her patients on to him for secound opinions. tho new to lyme support at the time, i did know that dr Dorthey Petruscka had been shot down alreay and not allowed to see patients.
real doctors not allowed to see patients.
pretty sad.
please support Dr Charles Ray Jones. our only hope for our children.
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BIG TIME SORRY! you don't need a rant right now, you need a dr for your children. Dr Charles Ray Jones. New Haven, CT. if transportation a probalem, Angel Flights. others here can give you more info for them.
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You did make me smile, though, as usual. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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