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I agree 100% about not wanting mice in one's home or yard. I don't want them here either and I've taken measures to get them out and keep them out.
I was simply pointing out that there are more humane ways to get rid of them.
And I was certainly not trying to make you or anyone else angry and defensive but it seems I have.
So there are more mice than people in the world. And? I have no idea what this has to do with anything.
Regarding medical experimentation on animals, I'd rather not hijack this thread to debate the issue. I feel I've hijacked it quite enough already and will quietly bow out now.
And thanks for the invite to your home but I'll have to decline.
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Topaz,
I agree with you. Some people don't 'get' it and I've accepted that now. I'm personally a vegetarian and for awhile was po'd about factory farming. It just makes me sad now. We live in a broken, fallen world and there is nothing we can do..except to do what you feel is right.
So keep using your humane traps. It's true that the mice carry diseases and such, but it isn't their fault. I felt so bad when our cat was playing with the living mouse, but I didn't want to grab it because I didn't want to get bitten and perhaps get yet another disease! I tried to shoo it outside with my foot when it was near the door, but to no avail! Glad my daughter caught it in the plastic bag and took it outside to let it go.
I don't think Lou is trying to be mean, probably defensive because it hurt his feelings by saying what he was doing was inhumane? I'm just guessing...
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Well, we didn't know any better and had pet rats when I was growing up - we had Amy, Mimi and Sophie in one cage together until 13 babies showed up one day. Then I think we decided we had Amos, Mimi and Sophie.
They knew their names, too - AM&S did - not the thirteen - they were just numbered -
We made a home movie with the pet rats on our shoulders - after it got shown to our relatives in the midwest, um, I don't think they wanted to come out and visit anymore!
Of course, no pet rats here any more - no way - they might have ticks on them today!
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TC and others- You have got to get out the video or dvd called Mousehunt. It was out about ten years ago and it is SO funny. You would really appreciate it after all you went through with Butthead!
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OK, for the softhearted, does it help to know that the glue traps have an anesthetic? No mouse suffering?
BTW, that glue trap was not gone, just further away than expected. Evidently floated quite a ways from the top of that wall.
About the humane traps, if I just turn mice loose outside, they will find their way back into the house, and I am not going to take a mouse on a car trip! But maybe in the yard of the neighbor who has a riding mower which sounds like a jet engine up close, and starts mowing too early in the morning.....
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I came here NOT happy and you all made me laugh again. Now I forgot what I was so MAD about!
Elaine... and Peanut Butter PB 4.... I have not seen that movie... will try to. I DO hope the humans win in the end.. but don't tell me what happens!
Siz said.. "They were fighting to see who could get to the pond first to drink!!!"
I am really laughing now. I can actually picture that in my mind... too funny!
And you are right... these mice may be the only ones in the state that like spicy food.. but I will try that!
And hide the Rolaids before I do! NO mercy!
James, you'd look cute in a Bell Boy outfit, with a little mouse sticking out of your pocket.
YO Robin 593758683...
RATS as pets? OH MY!
GEEZE! When you were a kid... did your folks make you play in the septic tank and tell you it was really a swimming pool?
Did they give you liver for breakfast and tell you it was really called cereal?
Were there briars and rusty nails wrapped up in pretty paper under your holiday tree instead of REAL toys?
You know I like you... but I am sure glad we weren't sisters growing up together! Rats for pets? Ugggggg!!!!!
Hey lou....
And I thought you liked fun and excitement. Guess not?
You said.. "I am not going to take a mouse on a car trip!"
HA! That is TOO funny! I guess we all have that one thing we just won't do! Now we know how far you will go! Or not!
I can just picture you putting a mouse in a little car seat and buckling it up so you can take him for a ride.
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Oh... a note that may help others...
The idea of putting coke out for the mice to drink.. well, I tried it.
NOT willing to give up MY soda.. I used some Mountain Dew and placed it on the counter in a large plastic lid.
Two days and nothing. It just sat there. The following day I noticed no signs of mice... but I had drowned 8 ants in the process. Guess that is my bonus prize for not getting the mouse?
Anyhow..
Last night, for some reason, the Dew mostly disappeared. Just a few drops were left.
Now.. my question is...
Are butt head's friends using my computer when I am not around and reading these tricks you all are posting?
My thought is the mouse KNEW the Dew would give him gas.. and waited till the fizz was fizzled out?
PLEASE tell me they aren't THAT smart!!!!
I refilled the lid tonight.
If the mouse again waits for a few days before drinking the Mountain Dew... that's fine.
But I will be expecting him to take the empty Mountain Dew bottle to the recycling center when he is through with it.
HEY!
I feed them. I give them something to drink. I clean up their messes. I provided a warm home for their sleeping pleasure.
I even allow them access to my computer...
But I'll be darned if I am going to take their bottles to the recycling center too!
Just like lou, who won't give them a ride in the car....
I too, DO have my limits!
But maybe if they pitched in some gas money I'd consider it?
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Wait a minute, TC - you're missing out on the thrill of realizing a rat knows its name! They're smart! And adorable! And cuddly! These were '60s rats - they got liberated in that era...
Upon being called, they scampered all the way up our pants leg to our shoulders and perched by our ears.
Maybe if you name the mousies, they'll come shooting over to drink soda water with you.
Btw, a precedent for smart mice - Amos the mouse in Ben And Me was responsible for most of Ben Franklin's inventions, AND he helped with the French Revolution as well...
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Hypothesis - Fat mice (all that PB, etc.) don't move as fast, therefore, SNAP!
Way to go! Fat, lazy mice!
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I guess since someone just told "seekhelp" to shut up on a post in the medical section... hahahahaha...
And that came from a moderator.... double ho ho ho...
It is ok to tell Robin 59365937 that she is NUTS!
A rat climbing up my pants leg is NOT what I want to think about!
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Rats!! Well, the devil may care, but I better not rat on you and tell the spirits of Amy/Amos, Mimi and Sophie and the extended family what you said here - it might hurt their little rat feelings, and then they won't come out of their spirit cage to play...
Sigh - so maybe back to mice. Now, as I mentioned above, my favorite Smart Mouse is Amos, as in Ben And Me by Robert Lawson circa 1939 (well, more specifically, Lawson says he found, edited, published and illustrated the mouse's text).
Amos the mouse helped Ben Franklin invent the Franklin stove and the printing press AND discover electricity after he rode a kite for Ben in a storm.
Here are some customer reviews about the book - I kid you not:
It's the tail of Ben Franklin's mouse.
If you want history as it "really" happened, through the eyes of a rodent who was there and can really write, this is the book for you.
I enjoyed this, yet I seriously doubt that all of Franklin's brilliant ideas were thought up by a mouse.
I got a little confused because it came from a mouse's point of view. It would be better if Ben told the story.
On one occasion Ben attempts to find out if lightning is electricity. Amos was strapped to a kite in the middle of a thunderstorm. He was up there for about a half hour to find out. His answer was "yes."
PS And now you must be wondering if I have nothing better to do than stay up all night writing about rats and mice. I can assure you, I am going to bed, but only after I put out cheese for all...
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Well here we go again!
Sorry it took a year to get back to you Robin3857635395. This is getting to be a habit it seems!
I did enjoy your Ben stories... and have great regard for the famous Ben Franklin... not to mention the Ben that makes ice cream too.
I gotta say though.. lou made me laugh out loud again with this comment...
"... and I am not going to take a mouse on a car trip!"
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OMG...this has been an awful two weeks, and I come in here and laugh for the first time.
I owe y'all for that one.
Just want to let you know I'm reading every post involving HOW to get rid of them. I just wish I'd known how lazy male cats were before I got mine.
This is the only cat I've ever had that would NOT jump up on counter tops. Too much effort. So is chasing mice, for that matter....
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Thx for bringing this back, even if you are a year late - I had to do some editing of the mouse's name - it's Amos.
And what a year it's been. Amos went to the winter Olympics, the basketball madness, drove a race car, wrote articles for May Mouse Lyme Disease awareness month (just squeaking by on deadlines)*,
testified at an IOM listening session about the need for more research on Lymeburger cheese, and for not using mice for research purposes if cheese was not involved,
organized a LymeScamper in San Francisco recently in the fall - all participating mice had to see how quickly they could shake off any ticks on them,
dressed as a rat for Halloween, immensely enjoyed all the confetti at the victory parade for the SF Giants, and most recently nibbled on some ballots.
And how are anyone else's mice faring?
*Amos reports that he is a bit relieved that what first appeared to be a mouse retrovirus causing chronic fatigue now looks to be a human one, so that his species is not to be blamed.
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They're BBBAAAAACCCKKK!
The mice and rats, that is!
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Well, this is the LAST time I will read this thread!! Apparently it brings bad luck!
I read the first 8 or so posts last night and laughed and laughed at all the funny mouse stories (didn't even realize they were out dated).
And today, THIS morning, I'm standing in the kitchen, my husband behind me making an egg, my son in front of me eating his breakfast, and around the corner from the living room, RIPS a MOUSE!!!! He runs to the corner of the fridge, like 2 feet away from my 2 bare feet, and turns around and rips back around the corner of the living room!!!
AAAAAAAACK!!!!!!
I start screaming and jumping around and start yelling, "where is the dumb cat?"!!!
I turn to my left and there oh there is the dumb fat cat, sitting in his box eating his cat food, with his fat tail hang out and swishing from side to side in kitty food bliss!
He didn't even notice all the screaming and jumping and barking (because by then the dog had started running around barking - not at the mouse, he hadn't even noticed it, but at me screaming)!
And we're out of mouse traps! Well, I know what I'm doing today...I'm picking up Tincup to come and help me!!!
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OH Tincup!! Thanks for reminding me about Ben and Me. I know I've read that one to my students before! GREAT book!! I may have to trot off to the library and read it again.
--sorry about the mice -- great story though!!
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Hey one hen short of 17...
It's NOT my fault that you bring the mice out of the woodwork with your laughing!
HA!
And I think we should all do Sizzled's idea. Habanero sauce for all!
Mice and rats that is!
Of course, now that you mention mice and rats... a serving saved special for the IDSA's next function would be nice too.
We could rid ourselves of three types of rodents at one time!
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TC, Habanero sauce is a great idea! I don't think ducks are rodents but I get the idea...
How did you know I lost a hen to a hawk this summer? (Well, actually I lost two, so I'm two short, but don't want to change my name.) Or were you referring to my lyme brain... short a hen... the nerve!
Darn, I read this post again... what will happen to me tomorrow in this mousehouse?
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As a kids my sister rescued a mouse form a science project. That mouse escaped and kille dour gerbils. Yes it did.
Still outside I see them with their quivering ears and I confess a soft spot. In moments.
Now grown up: had four cats.
Came home to few of those boys cornering a mouse in the living room. The autumn irruption.
Suddenly the mouse broke and ran with all cats in full pursuit. None of these boys were lazy.
Fat but not lazy.
The senior cat mama taught each cat when they arrived how to catch a mouse and then after that she had nothing to do with the rest of the cats.
She was after all a catperson.
Well scrambling over and under each other those boys chased that mouse into my tiny corner office.
Nowhere to run, no time to hide...
Mouse surfed full speed around the baseboard and
dashed up inside my pantsleg lickety split.
I tore off my pants in a blur of warp speed horror.
Mouse fell off my bare naked thigh into the wastecan.
For one brief moment-- eyelock -- lid ON.
Someone got a show.
Like Txcoord said... fun times through the windows preinternet...
Tick tubing is good...
well after sticking aluminim foil and brillo in every crack and cranny...
and well after bleaching calling cards off the high shelves...
But a good mousing cat will win every time. Trophy heads prove it.
Bless the mama-cat...
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Oh my goodness, dee, I do believe I would have died a thousand deaths!
You are a brave cat lover indeed!
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One time when I was teaching elementary school, we had mice in cages in our classrooms. We were going to do some food experiments or something. All of our classrooms were connected.. an open area school.
Each classroom had two mice in one of those wire type cages. (like a jail cell)
One morning I checked on our mice before going to a faculty meeting. There were 3 mice in our cage!!!! (I swear!)
When I came back later, there were only TWO!! We finally decided that a mouse from the school bldg got INTO our cage to eat the food!!!
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Later, we sent the mice home with kids who wanted them as pets. The NEXT DAY one of them told us the mouse had NINE babies the night before!!!
I'll bet that went over really well with "Mom!!" We didn't even know the mouse was pregnant!
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The same thing happened with our tame rats, Lymetoo - suddenly there would be litters and we didn't even know beforehand -
oh my gosh, deerose - you really lived the pantsleg experience - I busted up reading your account!
and salutations to 15hens...
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Hey, Hi Robin!! Nice to see you!! But I think you're on the wrong thread...
S-A-L-U-T-A-T-I-O-N-S should be on a spider thread, not a mouse thread
Right, school marm Tutu?
Dee, you really do get the brave chick of the year award, in my book anyway!!
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well get off your camos and get thee to the shelter and adopt a fuzzy little kitty....
name it devil dog or ooh rah, or semper or something like carlos
and teach it to kill....
just a thought....
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Um silly you Tincup,,,,Mountain dew wont work cause it doesnt fizz
drop a can or bottle of Dew and open it,,,little fiz,,,,now try same thing with coke or pepsi,,,lucky to have half left in container after it floods your lap
Break down and buy the 'cheap generic brands if you wish,,but blow them to Pluto.
Defense is best offense in mouseproofing. If your foundation is porous you could backplaster it,,or surwall it. That cuts down on bugs snakes and mice
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quote:Originally posted by 17hens: Hey, Hi Robin!! Nice to see you!! But I think you're on the wrong thread...
S-A-L-U-T-A-T-I-O-N-S should be on a spider thread, not a mouse thread
Haha - so we have Earl, AND Charlotte here??
Alright - you REALLY want me to say hello to 15 hens another way?
Ok - here goes. Now repeat after me:
Cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck
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I feel for you guys with the mice. Years ago I built a cabin with my husband near the wilderness and as usual with an alcoholic it was never finished so there were gapping holes for the field mice to crawl through.
These were ugly mice with huge heads and bulging eyes and they just made themselves at home like we were elk or deer. I had a Westie terrier and he was a great mouse killer but of course he could never catch them all. To his last days on earth if I screamed he would jump into action racing around the room searching for the mice.
When the snow was deep Westie did not want to go outside to go to the bathroom. So I learned if I opened the door and screamed "MOUSE" he would leap out, buried instantly.
Between the cluster flies that littered the floors by the thousands and the mice, I never missed that place. I thought at times I would just go crazy. Perhaps it was good preparation for this disease.
We have cats now and they do a great job of killing mice. They like to leave me their favorite parts on the front porch; presents for me. One day Oscar was trying to enter the house with one of his kills. I screamed and chased him off. He came back waitng patiently to be let in, unknown to me he had hidden the dead mouse behind him. When I opened the door, he quickly turned around snatched the dead mouse and tried to jump through the door which was promptly slammed in his face.
There are hawks who spend much of their days sitting at the tops of trees watching for a mouse to scurry out of it hole. I have seen the fox dive nose first into the snow catching a mouse in a tripod of feet and nose, flip it into a spin in the air and swallow it hole on it's way down. Hurray!
So I feel for you and enjoy your victories. I have pigeons in the barn now which some people refer to as "flying rats". They multiply like crazy, starting nests mid winter. The poop piles up where ever they roost and it is nasty.
I felt bad about killing them the first few years so we caught them at night. Threw a ball high into the rafters where they were roosting and they fell to the ground - did not fly because they could not see.
We used flashlights to find them and put them into bags. Then drove them far far away. Next day they were all back.
So now it is the pellet gun.
I love nature but not when it moves in.
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Nefferdun,
I can't remember the last time I laughed so hard as when I read about poor Westie diving into the snow when you screamed, "MOUSE"!!!!!!
How funny is that!!!!!
He must have been swearing under the snow pile when he realized you'd tricked him once again!!
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TC,
My house mouse, my very own Butthead (or close relative), that raced across my kitchen in full view, is now living in MY BEDROOM!!!!
He woke us up last night!!!
I thought it was my husband coming back from the bathroom - that's how loud this little mouse is!!
And we've had 2 snap traps and one box trap, all rigged with smoked cheese and peanutbutter, set for 2 days.
Nothing is working!
Help me, Tincup!!! I'm sharing my bedroom with a monster!!!
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Hey there! Didn't get time to read the whole 2 pages but I have heard this from several people. Mice do NOT like bounce fabric sheets. Many people use these when storing cars, campers, etc. for storage.
I always put a sheet of bounce in the totes I store away, also will put a sheet in dresser drawers, under couch cushions, lay a few around the house (under entertainment center, beds, closets, basement, even some in the garage). I always use them in the dryer and have heard of people even attaching them to there heat ducts.
I have a really old house, lots of cracks and gaps. Alot of people swear by it, and I have found that it really does help, but it HAS to be Bounce not any off brand dryer sheets.
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Glad you got a laugh 17hens. Westie forgave me every time. He wasn't the brightest crayon in the box. He never caught a mouse that I know of but our other dogs did.
One day our husky mix was busy digging and came up for air with a mouse attached to his nose, biting him. The dog was looking cross eyed at the mouse who was looking wild eyed back at dog. The mouse was flipped into the air and gobbled up on the way down.
I wonder if Bounce will work on pigeons!? I could TP the barn with bounce streamers.
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He actually ran around the living room last evening while my son and husband were watching TV and the dog and FAT DUMB CAT were sleeping!!!
The nerve!!!
We now have 6 mouse traps, all different varieties, and nothing is working!!!!!!!!!
I'm exhausted as I go to bed around 11 and the MONSTER wakes me up every morning between 5-6AM!
I lay there waiting for him to jump on my bed!!
We must have a mouse army around here by now.
We've never encountered such a daring and picky mouse - what mouse doesn't like peanut butter and cheese? We even tried smoked Gouda - nope!
Anyone have a snake we could borrow?
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YEAH, WE CAUGHT THE MONSTER MOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With 8 mouse traps and bait of smoked Gouda, peanutbutter, bananas, apple, grapes and havarti cheese, we finally caught the little guy!
In the middle of the night, in our bedroom (couldn't have been with the living room or kitchen traps) and he cried and scratched and cried (poor little guy).
He made such a racket, my husband had to take him outside at 3 in the morning in his underwear. (DH in underwear, not mouse).
Wow, I was so excited that we caught him, it took me a long time to go back to sleep. And I got up 2 times after that to pee, almost like my body was celebrating new found freedom in walking around the bed w/out the fear of stepping on a mouse!
Thanks, everyone, for your advice and moral support!
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Why oh why did I open this thread!!!!!!!!!! I am still suffering from PTSD from a year ago when I had mice running around my apt.
Caught seven of them. I keep a very clean orderly apt, but they were getting in through my coat closet. They were showing up at dinner time. The bldg was next to a field and they were looking for shelter I guess.
I have moved since then, but I seriously still see them in my peripheral vision sometimes. Glad you caught yours 17hens. I can't even stand to look at squirrels now. Oh why, oh why did I open this thread.
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Today's rodent story, coming to you live from ABC7 TV news -
Andy's Pet Shop in San Jose has just received 1000 rats transported in 150 cages via truck from a house in Los Angeles. Apparently the house got a bit overrun with all the rats, and they and the house got rescued.
The rats have been separated by gender (good luck with that) and are in quarantine for two weeks. After that, they will be adopted out in the south bay area.
The last thing I heard ABC7 news say about this story is that these are "happy rats", as they will be getting nice homes.
I think they should run some contests on the news and whoever wins gets a free rat.
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Oh my goodness, you couldn't pay me a million dollars...
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