Topic: Scarey Situation With My Big Dog, Bad infection Update #12
Silverwolf
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***** Updating : Sihayah has a psuedimonas infection, essentially a staff infection from what we've researched and read.
It is in her ears, The right ear is severe ,w/ damage to the canal. She also has some infection in the skin.
If the meds don't work we'd have to put her down [we just don't have the finances to have her go thru surgeries and such]...
so we are keeping our fingers crossed and praying muchly,And hoping and praying our little doggy [Mu'adi'] doesn't have it too. *****
I've mentioned my Sihayah sweety a number of times, She is a Husky/Chow cross.
Lymer family,today she bit me,after I got done being upset and then angry, I cried.
She's been fighting an ear infection,and I try to clean the ear up,and give her some ABX if it gets bad.
She asked for her meds,and I went to give it to her this morning. I have had to give her meds more times than I care to count,and she has always been a good dog about it.
Occasionally she'd spit out her meds and we'd have to try again.
This morning when I went to give her her meds, she bit my finger and held on. My Guardian angles were working over time.
I got my finger out of her mouth, it's still in one piece,no broken skin,no bleeding[just swollen]. She has not ever bitten me until now.
It wasn't play,she growled...she does not do this to me. This is my protector,that kept me from harm when I was being stalked,
and wont let me take a shower when I have bad headaches [she blocks my way to the tub,until TxC is home.
She is due for her shots and check up, so we'll be looking for a good vet in area this week. She is a large dog about 89 lbs worth.
This really really frightened me... after the anxious moments and angry moments... I am very concerned about her.
As soon as the weather clears a bit, it' is snowing and blowing again. She needs her bath and trim. There is a groomer that does this for us,and she loves them [thank goodness they are reasonably priced...I cannot bathe her].
Because of the ticks etc. we have her checked closely,they've not found any ticks. She is having some skin eruptions tho'.
I am trying not to worry, TxC got me out for abit,and since I've been back Sihayah has stuck close to me,wanting to be petted,and snuggle.
Something isn't right for her to have bitten me like this. She has been a bit cross lately w/ TxC too,tho' hasn't bitten him.
I'm blabbing along here,but this was just so scarey,and now we are both concerned. She'll be eight years old in September. Our little Mua'di-Little-bit, her companion doggy [age 3 in June] would be devastated w/o her...so would I.
Anyone have experince w/ dogs? Especially bigger dogs? Any tho'ts?
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I am so sorry. I've had this happen to me and it is devestating.
I put medicines in a piece of hot dog.
Or cheese.
I would definitely talk to the vet.
Sometimes as big dogs get older (they seem to age much faster)
They get grouchy. I got bit really bad this past summer.
However, I wasn't awake and one of my big boys (84lbs) attacked
My old, smaller dog. The smaller dog actually bit me accidentally.
I still was devestated.
I spoke with the vet. Enrolled my big dog and myself into an obedience class.
Best thing I could have done for myself and the dog.
I was considering having him put down.
I really love this boy.
I don't let him out with any other boys now.
I take out his "work" collar and work him frequently
Just to remind him that I am the Alpha Dog.
I have to be the boss. I have 7 dogs. Six of them over 70lbs.
Sending you hugs and kisses and prayers for a good outcome for you both.
Remember that dogs live in the moment.
It is possible that an older dog may have gotten confused,
Startled, or even scared....even if they hadn't shown that tendency before.
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So sorry about this! However, I know lots of dogs will do things (like biting) that they normally wouldn't when they are in a lot of pain. Poor girl may just feel really badly. Is she spayed?
Our boy play bites us a lot that is annoying since he's 123 lbs. He's a Newfoundland that we got at a shelter and while they told us he was 2 years old, vet showed us that he still has teeth coming in and most of his puppy fur.
Dog bites are scary! We had an Alaskan Malamute who would growl like crazy if he thought we were going to take away the food he had stolen off the counter or whatever. It scared me!
I hope this is just an isolated incident for her. I'm glad that your finger is OK too =)
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So sorry this happened, and I'm glad you are OK. A visit to the vet is a great idea. Larger dogs to seem to age much faster, and she may be having other problems too.
You could also modify the way you give her the meds. If you give it to her from your fingertips, see if she will take it from your flat hand.
Also, I know the meds and illness make me cranky and confused. It may be as simple as that.
I know she loves you, and you both need lots of love, so snuggle frequently. Don't let one incident get in the way of love and devotion.
Don't forget to let us know what the vet says.
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<<<<< Geneal, Ocean, Betty, and Melodymaker >>>>>,
Thanks for the tho'ts, info' and the hugs!
It snowed then iced up some last night so will see if it is safe for TxC' to drive.
We'll be gathering info' on the vets,and see which one might have an appointment opening,later today [if possible].
Sometimes I give Sihayah her meds in a bit of a cheese stick. And I guess this was a time I should have done that.
Talked to my dad,and he was wondering if Sihayah doggys ear infection might have spread,or she might have gotten a problem on her gum line.
I'm a bit nervous about checking her mouth right now, for obvious reasons. She is in here in the computer room w/ me resting/guarding.
She has also been chewing at her tummy,which is a concern. Shes had skin issues before,and it was finally getting better.
Sihayah has been spayed,for several years now. And Mu'adi-itty-bit is due for his neutering soon.
They didn't get their usual vets appointment this last year because of our having to move/job loss,and my Moms death in the middle of it all.
I had contemplated trimming Sihayahs coat myself, and having the groomers touch it up for me, if this weather would calm down.
She is stripping her own fur,and early this year... so I am not sure what is up,with our sweety girl. Definetly time to get the appointment made for the vet.
I am just hoping it isn't something serious, I know there are days when I am not feeling my best ,and I get headaches etc... I'm apt to be rather growly grouchy myself.
Er... I've never bitten anyone tho' . I am sure like Betty mentioned the stresses we've been in, Sihayah Sweety is feeling it too!
Well. I am going to rest a bit more, TxC' is off today ,minor schedule change,and trying to sleep in a bit.
Will get a better pic' of road conditions after the road crews sand and salt today. I'll let y'all know as soon as we can get Sihayah in to the vets and what they say...
Thanks so much for the input to each of y'all!!! Love from Silverwolf
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Your dog was most likely giving a reminder bite to let you know
she wasn't happy with what was going on. It's important to
understand that she chose not to break the skin. (Because she
loves you! ) More like a slap or a push away, which she
can't do with a paw.
A vet should be able to show you a technique for giving biters or
other "uncooperatives" meds. It works on most animals involving
spreading their jaws by applying pressure at the base on either
side. The clenched jaw usually pops right open. (This shouldn't
hurt the dog.)
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i think it sounds like she was grouchy and in pain and she just snapped at you and got your finger
if she had meant to hurt you, your finger would be much worse off than it is
i'd definitely take her for a check up asap. she is obviously in some discomfort, enough that it has altered her personality, even if just for that one moment
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Silverwolf
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<<<<< lymeric,JillF, and each replier >>>>>,
Thanks for the input, it is very appreciated!!!
We have an appointment for her at 2:00 pm tomorrow, by then the roads should be better too.
Vet receptionist said the same thing, if she is not a biter, she was in a lot of pain,to snap this way,
They'll do a real thorough check up on her,and we'll work it from there. She is due for some of her vaccines,
but they don't give them until temperatures are in normal range,so if she has a fever the vaccines will wait for her safety and ours.
I'll update again,after her check-up tomorrow. Thank you all again,for taking the time to reply, it means a lot,for us and a very special doggy!
Love Silverwolf
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Well we go to the Vet for a 2:00 O'clock today... I'll be relieved when Sihayah gets her check up! And praying like Fury she's okay.
Just fed her,and Itty-bit their morning meal, afternoon is just a snack bite for them.
After their constitutionals,everyone is going to nap for a bit including me...
I'll update when we get back from Appointment later!
jus' Nervy Silverwolf here
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Silverwolf,
So glad she will be seen today. I know sometimes thyroid in older dogs can be off too making them more grumpy. Hopefull it will be just as you suspect...she was in pain and that she will heal soon.
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Our Husky/Lab/Chow is now 11 years old. He has gotten a bit grumpier lately but it is almost always when his arthritis is acting up. We do an aspirin/day for a few days and he comes around. It is usually in the winter.
Walking Merrill also helps his moods. I wonder if it is like humans -- exercise produces the "happy" chemicals in the brain. If I'm not up for walking him, our oldest daughter takes him for short walks.
We have three big dogs. Merrill and two Great Danes. I sure do love them and their big do personalities !
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Silverwolf
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Well we are back..., <<<<< Ocean, EMH' and each replier >>>>>
Sihayah Sweet woof-ly dog, has Pseudomonas Infection in her ears. The right ear is very severe. And she is getting a resistance to Sulfa drugs.
Her temp' and pulse are normal, the meds and all were so expensive we are going back tomorrow after going to the bank,to pay for the meds.
She has the infection in her ears, and Pyoderma in her skin,from the bacterium.
They gave her the vaccines Rabies and DAPPC etc. so she wont be contending w/ getting distemper or parvo or something ,on top of this infection.
I am worried that our Itty-bit-a Mu'adi,her companion doggy has it too.
Really concerned,as its almost at $300 already already.
I was hoping it was something minor. Psuedamonus,is related to Staph infections according to net info' I found. This is scarey.
They will recheck in two weeks on the right ear.
We have to get Sihayah trimmed again,which she has been needing,and then bathe her once a week w/ a special shampoo,to get her skin to clear up.
With $200 to $300 dollar gas-heat bills... and the vet costs I am not sure how we can move to a better safer place. It feels like a viscious circle.
I'll check in later ...
From Silverwolf
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Jus' me venting for a moment.
It is hard not to be angry, because we know where Sihayah got sick,and they did not give her the proper treatments,or our little bit-doggy either[it was at our former vets].
We explained to the New vet, how we have been fighting to get our dogs skin ,urinary tract and ears back to healthy.
They have both been sick for a couple years,and every time they get better, they are getting another infection again...
If we'd not lost jobs and housing this last year,our groomer would have found the infection. We didn't get Sihayah trimmed/bathed, this last summer... w/ all the mess,and Mommas funeral.
Right now I am very very upset Psuedomonas is nothing to play around with.
When Sihayah first had a problem it occured after our Former vets' groomer, Trimmed her and had a 'problem'with her undercoat. They shaved her almost bald,and she had four bleeding nicks.
We complained, they did nothing for our dog...soon the 'groomer' no longer worked there. Sihayah came up w/ a rash from that grooming that never went away.
At first they said, she had an allergy, then they claimed carpet mites were an issue. Well i'm pretty well positive It was Psuedomonas the whole time.
I am angry...She is a beautiful loving dog,and the little Dog, is a funny sweet critter too. I hope that the treatment helps,and we can help our pets. And I hope TxC or myself don't get an infection.
I am just so Upset right now...
Guess I'm doing good to even get myself dressed...
Just Silverwolf the disturbed.
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Hi <<<<< Lyme-rs >>>>>,
We get to go to the bank and then start Sihayah's treatments this afternoon.
I am hoping it works quickly, because the Rt. ear is causing her a lot of pain. And the ear canal is damaged.
Don't know what we'll do if she needs to have surgery,trying to hope for the best and not think about that.
She is such a good dog, sometimes she just knows if my legs aren't working right and I need help up. And she goes and lays beside TxC' when he gets headaches,and severe arthritis pain.
Just one of many things we love about our Sweety girl.
Gotta go, little-bit a Mua'di is waking up and letting me know he needs out.
BBL from Silverwolf
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Hi Doggie Mother
Even in humans, you only need one good ear...
Staph is nothing to play around with, however, can be treated.
I am glad you got to the heart of the problem.
I would probably still give meds in cheese or a hot dog.
It is hard not to be scared, especially after a bite.
Try to project a calm, boss like attitude.
I hope that the cold weather breaks, the doggies get better soon,
And you get to move.
Sending you all positive thoughts and prayers.
Hugs,
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Hi There <<<<< Geneal >>>>>,
I like the Doggie Mother title!
We have to use bread or a non calcium/non dairy type of product, for her pills. She cannot have cheese for several hours before or after her main meds.
The Baytril is supposed to be chewable [as spendy as it was...it should brush her teeth and bathe her too ] ,if she will eat it, We'll see. She got her other meds down okay w/ out getting upset or nipping/biting.
Poor bebe, she is in a lot of pain,but still being playful.She tried to eat an envelope a bit ago. I had to coax it away from her.
Hmm ,I wonder if she'd take meds in a hot dog? We have to be careful she is a tender tummy by nature,and these meds can make her nauseated.
Hopefully these meds will work quickly, I start her left ear cleansing meds/massage rountine tomorrow.
Right ear, nothing goes in it at all,but a gentle cleansing around the pink easily seen parts. So we'll see how it all goes.
I am still wondering about what was going on that our Sweety girl got this problem... and still upset about the former vets-groomer...
but I can't do anything,except get Sihayah better as quick as possible,and try to keep Mua'di-itty-bit from having more issues.
I checked in on Med Questions, and will be using gloves to treat her, and to bathe her too.
We are starting to save up for getting her shaved,trimmed too. W/o her heavy fur, she looks more like a Chesapeake/lab cross,but she is actually a Chow and Husky cross.
Once they do a good trim down,hopefully I can keep it cut for her. When good weather comes it'll be easier to bathe her too. Will see how it all goes.
I don't know what Will do when she passes,and hope she has some good years left yet!
Thanks for the tho'ts and ideas, hugs and commiserations from each replier.
Jus' the Silverwolf Doggie Momma!
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Poor baby!!
I feel for you, it's so hard when our babies are sick. Our Noah (the newfie) got neutered (a simple thing) in Jan and I felt so bad for him. Poor guy, and he wasn't even sick.
Glad that she still wants to play, that is a great sign! Haha, yup our doggie would love to eat anything he can find.
Take care and thanks for the update on your furbaby!
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I have lots of experience with dogs , big dogs, I've been bitten by MY big dogs, usually as a result of something they have been uncomfortable about or new territory..
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<<<<< OCean, dsd/Eileen, Each replier >>>>>,
Hi there, thanks for the replies and kind words!
Sihayah had her first meds last night,took them fairly well.
I did her oticcleanse and ointment,w/ massage left ear,and gentle swabbing around right ear [no liquids/ointments to go inside right ear].
Poor sweety girl was uncomfortable,and tried to hide from me at first. Then we got it done.
She went from some minor chesty growling to what we call purring. She was raised w/ two kitties and thinks a soft throaty growl,is purring [It is LOL!!!].
I don't feel like I'm maybe getting quite enough in the Lft. ear, but I am sure I'll get more confident over the next few days.
The right ear is the serious problem,so we are hoping and praying the ABX works.
I will always wonder, what was going on at our old vets clinic that shes got this mess.
Stumbled on some info' about rabbits and tulerimia, and the spread of Pseudomonas.Old Clinic, works w/ all sorts of animals.and livestock.
On our last visit, 'Dr.J.' came in wiping her hands on *dirty overalls w/ bloody looking ick on *them, yeah I know it could be medicine overspill,but still... ya never know.
And now after over two years of fighting to get our dogs healthy... this mess.
But we are doing treatments,and will see how it all goes.
I will be digging up info' about *herbal supplements and dogs too. Perhaps there might be something that will help keep this mess form getting worse again.
*** I will wait until after current treatments are done, we don't want any thing to impede the med regimens ability to work.***
Vet says this condition is a problem as it goes chronic... another reason I am mad at former vet...
I know, I gotta let it go,as we cannot prove anything...so I'm just getting my grumbles and growls out...
Thanks again Y'all for each reply hug, and ideas and info'!
Jus' Silverwolf Doggy Mom Here!
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Hello <<<<< All'a'Y'all Lymer Family >>>>>.
So far Sihayah doggy is doing alright,but we are looking for a different vet. TxC did some checking,and the vet we went to charges $50 to $70 dollars more than any one else .
...and had a 900 % markup on the meds cost.That is beyond ridiculous, along w/ them saying we were being given a generic,and then after we payed the bill we find out that they don't use generic.
We've got to find someone decent and cost effective. The other place we had hoped to bring our dogs isn't taking new clients... Aw well.we'll keep looking.
Just Silverwolf here.
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Hi Silverwolf,
Glad your baby is getting better. That's terrible with the vet pricing. I know we've gone through the same thing though. I know when we were looking to get our newf mix (we used to have) spayed, there was a $90 price difference depending on the vet!
I'm sure if you are in a more rural area that you have a more limited number of practicing veterinarians too.
That is what I always wanted to be, a veterinarian. As a kid, I bought things like hydrogen peroxide, alcohol, sterile pads, ect. and put them in an old suitcase.
Anytime the animals were injured, I went and took care of them. I loved going with my parents to the vet. Then of course, my senior year in high school, Lyme came and got a hold of me.
But I'm only 30...if I can get better, surely I can still do it, right =)
Anyhow, I think you can order some veterinary medicines online too, not sure though about abx.
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If the medicines come in "human" form,
May be cheaper to get them filled at a local pharmacist.
One of my dogs takes enulose for his digestive track.
I enrolled him in one of Walgreen's Pet Rx. plans.
It used to cost me 30.00 a bottle at the vets.
Now only 10.00. Except now it isn't generic.
Go figure.
Hugs,
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Hi <<<<< Ocean, Geneal,and Lymer Folk >>>>>,
Y'all don't give up on your dreams...keep fighting for them! I get depressed at times,but I'm not gonna give up!!!
Sihayah sweety is booked w/ a different clinic for a wk. from today. They were shocked at the prices we were charged,so we'll see if this is any better! One can hope!
Next stop after getting her groomed/bathed and shaved,once we get an actual appointment for that will be getting Mu'adi dog checked.
TxC's supervisor works w/ the local animal shelter[Humane Society ], and we can get a certificate to get him neutered as soon as he is healthy enough,for a "reasonable" fee.
We want to be certain he is well enough for the procedure and not fighting the same mess as Sihayah.And we need to be sure there isn't a hidden fee too.
I'll check back later,its errands and bill paying day again... oh-joy... TxC gets a longer lunch break today so it isn't half bad really!!!
Jus' Silverwolf
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Geneal,
Wow, if our dog or kitties need a script, I will look into the Walgreen's thing. I never knew that their was such a thing! That is really neat.
Thanks for letting us know about that.
Silverwolf, hope your girl can get better soon (for a cheaper price, too!). Let us know how she does!
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<<<<< Ocean and Geneal >>>>>,
I'll keep folks updated as we get news. And Ocean is right the Walgreen's plan is a really cool Idea! It gives us another option,in case we need to get more meds!
Geneal thanks so much for mentioning it!!!
I'll check back later today, gonna try to get showered,and ready for running errands! Beep-Beep me an' my cane are a comin' down the shopping aisles. Okay I know there's a bench around somwhere...!!!
Love Silverwolf
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. I am sure like Betty mentioned the stresses we've been in, Sihayah Sweety is feeling it too! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
,if she will eat it, We'll see. She got her other meds down okay w/ out getting upset or nipping/biting.
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