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Tracy9
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Yes, my medicaid covers all IV drugs, including Tigecycline.

Sick said:

"And you said Medicaid pays for your tests. Does it pay for the tests ran by Igenex? That is absolutely wonderful if it does. If not what tests does it cover?

Do not get me wrong. I am not picking on you in any way. I am just trying to figure out a way so many of us can get to our doctor for a visit which we so deserperately need.

Does anyone out there know of any programs to get people the help they need in paying for their doctor visits?

Also it seems like so many of us are traveling for so many miles. I think we should work together more to get there. I'm not sure how we could do that other then sharing rides and maybe motels--but that would really be a risky thing to do when you didn't know someone."

YES, Medicaid paid 100 percent for all my tests, SPECT scan, nerve conduction study, EMG, MRI, all labs from MDL, Labcorp, etc.

IGENEX does not take insurance directly, so that one I have to submit to my insurance company.

I agree with your ideas about working together. In fact, today a fellow Lymenetter from Kansas is arriving at my house in CT to stay while her daughters receive testing in NYC over the next ten days or so.

She and her two daughters will stay at our home for free, we will feed them, and we will loan them our car each day to drive to New Haven and catch the train into NYC.

We would gladly do this for anyone else. We have done it before.

Working together is great. I'm hoping to see it happen out here for the Bionic 880.

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Sick asked:

"Is there a way to get meds without a sript from your doctor?"

Yes, many people have self treated by purchasing their medications from Mexico, New Zealand, etc. There are several people here on the board who can help you if that is the route you are looking for.

Another option that has worked great for us is to get our PCP to prescribe what the LLD recommends. Granted, we are lucky to have a PCP who will do so, but it is possible.

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When I was the most broke I have been, I went to a low-fee clinic -- most states have at least one -- and told the doctor what I was already taking and that I could no longer afford my meds (this was before Lyme though).

We had a long talk about it, and then she took me into a hallway, opened up a cabinet, and pulled out this huge bag of drug samples and just gave me almost the whole bag.

Doctors often have a lot of samples hidden away, and sometimes they have even forgotten about them and need to get rid of them before they expire. Sometimes it just takes really direct communication to appeal to them.

So definitely don't discount the drug sample idea. Sometimes doctors are low-fee clinics are more aware of financial issues and more sympathetic to complicated diagnoses. You never know.

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Totally agree. My PCP has gone so far as to contact a drug rep for me and have him bring in samples, just for me, before I got the Medicaid approved.

Also, to follow up on Metallic Blue's awesome earlier post, I went from a high functioning, Masters Level working woman running a highly renowned program (which by the way I founded) at a major Level One Trauma Center teaching hospital, with excellent credit, to:

Current Credit Score: 450

How I really paid for IGENEX testing: I wrote a bad check

Just the tip of the iceberg, there....

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I got myself pretty much symptom-free (with occasional 10-day relapses that were usually triggered by candida or by treating my high mercury with chelation) with the Buhner Protocol. I"d done 6 months of oral antibiotics, instantly relapsed, and then did about a year of Buhner herbs and I got better with it right on schedule.

Very, very annoyingly, I've since then been re-infected, with what I think is mostly babesia, and even though I went on antibiotics as soon as I was tick bit, I'm sick again. Though it doesn't completely prove that it was the re-infection alone that did it, I think it's most likely not a failure of my original protocol and actually something new, from what my symptoms were.

So, anyway, even though the Buhner Protocol isn't completely cheap, it does work well for some people at least for the Lyme alone. I know several people who've used it and have kept symptoms at bay or have had much improved response to antibiotic treatment. If you can afford anything at all, either veterinary antibiotics or (and/or) the herbal protocol may be better than just taking nothing. It works on many organs and systems, not just on killing spirochetes- there's a lot of inflammation support and collagen support in there, so it's definitely worth doing if you aren't getting treatment some other way.

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Hi LymeNet Users,

I "featured" this Topic, (stuck it at the top of this forum) based on a suggestion fron BettyG, because it contains a wealth of useful info related to
"So, what DO you do when you run out of money for treatment?"

Out of $$$, Needing treatment ... BIG problem, so,
Read and learn ...

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I haven't seen what I would consider one of the cheapest ways to treat yourself mentioned -- buying powdered herbs and encapsulating them yourself or making herbal decoctions (teas). A caspsule filling machine is very cheap. Often a pound of herbs won't cost much more than a bottle of prefilled capsules.

If I had no access to antibiotics this is what I would do. Hubby was on the Buhner protocol by itself for 4 months at one point and in my opinion it at least kept him from getting any worse. May even have had some positive effects. And he had already done both IV Rocephin and IV Primaxin at that point.

Personally I think the Buhner protocol is a viable option for at least short term treatment. And if you don't think herbs are strong enough then I suggest you take just one andrographis capsule and see if you don't herx.

In my opinion the Buhner protocol from the Healing Lyme book is probably the cheapest option available.

I think it can be of great benefit for Lyme. Not so sure it will work for Babesia. Used to not think it would help with Bartonella or BLO -- have rethought that after hubby tried stephania root.

The Zhang protocol may be a better option for Babesia or Bartonella, but it is more expensive as the herbs are proprietary formulas.

Some have had success with the Cowden protocol and NutraMedix herbal tinctures, but I am pretty sure that would also be more expensive than encapsulating your own herbs.

Or you could always try the herbal formula Spiro Kete from Kroeger herbs. This may work better on viral issues as the main ingredient is monolaurin or lauricidin from cococnut oil.

Most all of the herbs in these different protocols can be combined to find what works best for you individually and usually there is very little interaction between the herbs and antibiotics.

This is not medical advice, just my opinion based on hubby's experiences.

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Great post Bea. I hadn't considered that.

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I hear the pain! My family has the same issue, we all have Lyme and the costs just add up. The solution for myself has been Buhner Protocol (about $200/month) and a rife machine. The rest of the family is on abx. But to saved money I use rife plus Buhner.

The rife machine is literally pennies a day after the initial cost of a few thousand. For about 3 years I used the rife machine only. The doug coil appears (for me)to be the most effective for the money.

Neither Buhner or rife will cure Lyme, but can keep symptoms at bay until a cure is discovered.

Hope this helps.
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Curioser, I think you are making some great decisions.

Taking a break from meds can help clarify things.We found the antibiotics themselves had caused leaky gut and all kinds of symptoms that we had been attributing to Lyme, were actually new food allergies resulting from the leaky gut problem.

I again want to say that there are adequate- I didn't say optimal, although some are very good- LLMD's covered by insurance. This board sends parents to Dr. J., and adults to various Lyme specialists who are outside the insurance system.

I think we need to be more accepting of the need for some people to see doctors inside the insurance system, if finances dictate that is the only choice, besides no treatment. For anyone new, the Lyme Disease Fdn. in Hartford,Ct. provides names, or it used to.

Given bottom-line adequate antibiotics is a start, and further treatments can be tried later, including alternatives. Following this path will help many avoid the financial disasters described here.

Metallic Blue, I do disagree with your post. There is a good chance that Lyme patients can spend thousands and thousands of dollars and not get much better, frankly. Especially if you are of certain genetic types.

Achieving a modicum of improvement is necessary of course, but some of us just have had to accept that we have a chronic illness, and that, actually, it could be a lot worse.

I have kids in college. I cannot give them what they need and pay for expensive Lyme doctors and treatments. I certainly could not move them into a shelter so I could feel better. That's just the way it is. I'm sure there are others like me out there, many others, and I think Lymenet needs to have a few alternative voices every once in awhile.

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When I was battling lyme it was indeed expensive. I couldn't do all the treatments my doc advised me to do, but I spent alot of time looking around for solutions at support groups and the internet.

For example, you may be able to avoid the $$atovaquone$$$ by taking artimisia anua and artimisinin for babesia. (I needed to take both, but I don't have a spleen, which makes babesia very serious) And there are "needy meds" programs of various sorts-- but I would have needed some serious help doing all I needed to do for those that I found out about- thus I completely used combis of orals. (you might have better luck, though?)

I took lots of supplements. But I couldn't get the most expensive ones- and just told my doc that. I mean, we live in 'amerika' --kind of like bosnia, when it comes to health care.... I just maximized my chances and battled the lyme on every front I could. Nowadays at least I'm on 'medicaid', but now I better not get lyme-- they'll buy you 3 weeks of doxy, if that, and that's it. (also they only get you medieval dental treatment- that is with bad teeth no crowns or bridges; they just get the pliers...)
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Here's a direct link to the powdered herbs from the Buhner Protocol that a couple of people have suggested. please read the Buhner book before ordering- for instance, he recommends red root as a tincture and boneset as a tea, not a capsule form:

http://www.1stchineseherbs.com/lyme_disease.html

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I don't understand how treatment could possibly be $5000 per month.

Oral Doxy is like $50 a month. Antibiotics are pretty cheap. An office visit once a month is like $200?

What exactly is $5,000 a month??

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Try adding in:

$750 a month for Malarone (not covered)
$70 a month for probiotics
$250 a month for supplements
$100 a month for RX copay for several meds

There's more. This is just tip of the iceberg.

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Depends what drugs you are on. There are some really cheap and reliable overseas pharmacies that do not even require a prescription. PM me if you need more info. Even so, you should still visit an LLMD. Maybe you could visit them every 3 months or something.

There are lots of good suggestions before me too, azure blue was right about making money anyway you can. What good is life when you have no health to live it with? But of course, things can be easier said than done. Anyway I wish you and anybody else in the struggle the best of luck.

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Has anyone with chronic Lyme successfully receieved Social Security benefits? I realize that these may take a very long time to receive but are well-worth it I am sure.

I am considering applying but would like more information from those who have been through the process.

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i referred newbie lisa to start her own post in support on SSDI issues for input and gave her my page nos. of my newbie package detailed ssdi info.
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quote:
Originally posted by drewby:
I don't understand how treatment could possibly be $5000 per month.

I you've had lyme for long, you may have to have IV antibiotics. And if you are unable to walk there may be expense from wheelchairs, medical assistants, etc., that kid of stuff adds up real fast!
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Shes from PA where I am. Here in PA, you wouldn't want to call Social Security to apply for medicaid, but you can call them to apply for disability!

You want to call your Department of Public Welfare. Since I live in Westmoreland County, I would just call the one in Greensburg which is in my county.

You call them and they can MAIL you an application. You fill out the awfully large bibled sized packet of questions and mail it back in.

COPY YOUR MEDICAL BILLS AND SEND IT WITH THEM. That will help get you qualified. I can't remember if you said you were married or engaged, but if you are not married- you and your fiance will have to apply separately.

Also, send in any copies of bills/checks that you DID pay ( again that will help).

Medicaid ( if you get it/are eligible) will pay for everything pretty much except your LLMD visit. medicaid won't reimburse you for anything you have paid thus far though.

And it is based on your income and resources. You have to meet their income guidelines and can't own tons of properties, etc. They don't count your main home that you live in ( if you own it) as a resource.

And yep, they pay for IV meds, if you get a script and what not.

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I understand what everyone's going through. MY situation could be worse than some of you. I live in a decrepit house with no furnace,stove,or bathtub because my estranged husband wants to punish me for past mistakes.I have to buy my own food,etc.,PLUS I support my youngest who has insulin-dependent diabetes.I just went to social services yesterday to find out that I can't get any financial help because they combine incomes if you're still married.I can't get divorced because I don't have the money,but I don't qualify for free legal, BECAUSE they combine incomes for that! It's a catch-22 situation. I can work part of the year, but now that seasonal work is done, my money is ruunning out and I have a hard time dealing with the winter, physically. I'm a little better lately, but without continued treatment, I'll get bad again.It's a rouugh road............

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Limping Lily,

Maybe a women's shelter could help you?

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Lets see.....$13,500 in bills last month alone.

Yep...that about sums it all up.

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Most people are not aware, but you can get meds from overseas pharmacies that are very cheap. If you are well versed on your treatment and can guide your med choices and dosing choices, you can get cheap meds from overseas, mostly India. They are generic but authentic and good. I have much experience with that, mostly with psychiatric meds. A lot of people from a psych forum I attend do that. You can import up to a 90 day supply of personal use per shipment, with each shipment taking about 2 to 3 weeks in the mail. FDA and Customs rules are not black and white, so they tolerate it just fine. As long as the meds are not controlled substances such as narcotics, benzodiazepines, or stimulants, shipments go through Customs smoothly.
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Curioser:

Just some ideas. Havn't gotten to this point yet but maybe the salt and C protocol would be the least expensive?

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My opinion is to self-treat. If you don't have any other options, why not? You can get antibiotics in Mexico. If you can't do that, you can take herbs, many people do well. Samento, cumanda, teasel -- some of Buhner's protocols.

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I've been able to sell my homemade items through etsy. It is a on-line business for all

things hand made to sell. If you have a talent, you should check it out. I'm able to work from

home and it has really helped us pay for treatment.

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Just wanted to drop a note to let you all know how much I appreciate all your suggestions, advice, and care. And I do. [group hug]

I've been off all meds and supplements for about 2 months. I decided to let my body go back to "baseline" and see what was what.

I feel amazingly good, all things considered. Still tired, but the bone-crushing fatigue is gone. Have a few neuro things going on and those are my biggest concern right now.

But I don't feel 'sick'. Most of my physical sx went away soon after stopping the meds. No sign of relapse so far. *knock wood*

I'm not sure if all this was really a TBI or something else since I got exponentially worse while on meds and nothing got better, even after IV abx.

All my previous testing was negative, except for a barely (and I mean barely) positive IgM from Igenex. I know the testing isn't even remotely accurate, but it does make me wonder.

I have appts with 2 neuros next month to see if they can figure anything out. One of them tests for pathogens that can cause neuro sx, so maybe I'll get a confirmation of the lyme dx after all.

The feeling right now is sort of like waiting for the other shoe to drop. If it was a TBI after all, if/when will I relapse? If it wasn't, what is it?

Just thinking out loud here. I don't expect anyone to agree with what I've done/am doing and please don't slam me for it. These choices are based on what I think is right for me, based on my circumstances - the same way everyone else makes their choices.

Anyhoo, thanks again! [Smile]

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Glad to hear that not being on meds has worked out for you. I hope it continues.

I have tried several times stopping meds and have had symptoms I have forgotten about returned.

I am about to go into the no med zone possibly msyelf. So, hoping I do as well as you are doing and it continues.

It would be interesting to start up a post on those who have gone off meds and see how they have done.

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Just checking in with you to see how you are doing. Still OK while off meds??
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Just went to The Citizen's Briefing Book and you Can Still Vote !!!!!


I just went to do a few votes and it allowed me to do so...

http://citizensbriefingbook.change.gov/

(it only lets One Vote per person's email per Topic, but you may also register under a different email for More Votes)

(search for keyword Lyme)


Also, the Take Action on Lyme Disease Epidemic is clearly NOT over yet,


This campaign is targeting your Governor, members of your State Senate, members of your State House, the President of the United States, members of the US Senate and members of the US House of Representatives.


here is the direct link...

http://healthcare.change.org/actions/view/lyme_disease_epidemic#letter_form


and here for Free Equal Health Care For All...


http://healthcare.change.org/actions/view/free_equal_health_care_for_all


Please get Everyone involved, friends, neighbors, family, coworkers, groups, and anyone else you may think of.


Thank you.

Best regards,
Eric

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jblral just posted this link at another web:


http://www.lymedisease.org/news/touchedbylyme/index.1.html

and


http://www.lymedisease.org/news/touchedbylyme/64.html


TOUCHED BY LYME: Financial help for Lyme drugs?


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A Rife machine is about the cheapest way to treat Lyme. For the money, it is one of the most effective treatments. The longer you use it the cheaper it is compared to other methods which get more expensive as you use up more products.

Make sure you have one long before you are out of doctors and money.

We have insurance and have not used a doctor or single pharmaceutical antibiotic and have had very good results using products such as Samento, Cumanda, MMS, and Spiro. Even so, the Rife machine has been, and still is our mainstay.

It can allow you to stay normal enough to keep a job and try other things if you choose.

Dan

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you do doxy if you can get by on it, it is very cheap.

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There is alot of good info here but,anyway You cut it. It is not cheap trying too treat an illness that is not even belived in by the mainstream medical world.

I have lost everything but,my wife and a few friends. Face up to the fact that life is not fair,dig in and try too stay alive.

Most of all try too help eachother with out being asked. Every person deservs their dignity,with out that we are all blobs of flesh.

Offer before someone asks ,spare them the embrassament,of having too crawl like a gut shot pup.

Face the fact that the mainstream medical world would just as soon see You (We just go away. The world has not changed in 2000 years Jesus said "the poor will always be with you. But he also said :What ever You have done to the least of these You have unto Me"


Keep on fighring the sestym,fight for fair treatment(good luck There). But most of all do not forget where You came from. We all will dye someday,that's a fact

I am truely sickined too see people,in such dire straigts. I have lost my train of thought, the only thing that rings in my ears ,are these words treat each other as You would want too be treated Yourselves.

I see this movement as being close too breaking throught,but if we gain medical treatment rights and leave all of our wounded and sick by the side of the road .what good is it.

I know there are wealthy people here and poor alike. Just reach out too eachother. Part with some of your fourtone ,and be willing too swallow some pride too get help. But do not .do not rely on the government too help you. It will not happen in our lifetime.

This is only what I see, my take could be completly wrong ,or I could be 100% right . It dose not matter ,what matters is that You all love each other.
be as well as You can be today
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appleseed, well said my friend! xox
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D Bergy what is the cheapest palce to purchase Cumanda, Spiro, and MMS? What is MMS and Spiro...brand name?
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I don't know where the cheapest place is to get any of these products. I bought the Cumanda from Nutramedix. The Spiro was sold to us by a homeopathic doctor. I am not sure if it is available to non healthcare people.

Miracle Mineral Supplement is what MMS stands for and what name it is sold under. The price varies, but it is pretty cheap for how long it lasts.

Dan

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quote:
Originally posted by troutscout:
[QB] Lets see.....$13,500 in bills last month alone.

Yep...that about sums it all up.

trout [Wink]


Fighting back...one spirochete at a time. ]

Oh my God trout, I hope you have a net income of 100,000$ right?
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Go to Bridges to Access for free Mepron, Augmentin, Ceftin. Go through the list of their medicines. You must not have insurance, and you have to meet eligibility requirements, you can read about that on the website.

http://www.bridgestoaccess.com/about/program_description.html


The Partnership for Prescription Assistance offers a single point of access to more than 475 public and private patient assistance programs, including more than 180 programs offered by pharmaceutical companies
https://www.pparx.org/Intro.php

There is also
http://www.myfreemedicine.com/

and

www.needymeds.org

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Believe it or not, this issue is actually happening to me now. My solution? Sell "big" things that I don't use, that bring big money. I can pay for my treatment, and someone else gets something nice.

I'm trying to get approval from moderators to actually make the sale here if I'm permitted.

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After 30 yrs undiagnosed, then abx for 8 mos (40 symptoms down to 15), then Dr. Zhang's protocol (down to 4), I'm now on colloidal silver (down to 1). If I had it to do over, I'd begin with the silver. The abx affected my liver and silver has no side effects. You can get it at any health food store or online. I've read the mesosilver is the best and plan to switch to it. I also have a friend who went blind with Lyme and is now fully functioning using silver only. He also reports treating a dog near death from LD and the dog is now healthy. It's relatively cheap and definitely worth trying. I start with 4T daily until I can taste it, then drop down as symptoms fade. But search it here for how others have dosed first. At this point I only use it when symptoms flare.

Dr. Zhang's treatment also uses lots of allicin (garlic) so I agree with another poster on trying just the garlic as well. Warning: those around you may find your "perfume" objectionable.

I also use tonic water to treat my leg cramps.

Also important: Heat up your body with: exercise, hot showers, hot tub, sauna, whatever you have access to. Detox, detox, detox to help boost your body's response to fighting this d*** thing. Take probiotics as well. You also may need to supplement with vit D (get tested to see if you're low).

If you're not on abx, I believe sunshine really helps, plus it feels good on the joints. Swim in salt water. Breathe the cleanest air you can find. Avoid eating sugary foods, or those that your body turns to sugar. This will lessen a lot of the nasty things that go on in your body resulting from LD, such as yeasties, plus I think it may help starve the spirochetes?

Do continue to search this site for any of the suggestions folks have offered you, because everyone is affected differently. You may find someone with similarities to your case and learn what worked best for them. You may be pleasantly surprised at how well you do on your own. But even if you're self-treating, please still have your bloodwork done to chart your progress and nip anything in the bud that may arise. I wish you the very best. Please keep a positive attitude and share your progress.

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Methods of coping with Financial Burdens compiled by Melanie Reber & others

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/35162?#000000

[ 05-31-2009, 03:35 PM: Message edited by: bettyg ]

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Hi, I am new on here, but was on one of the Lyme Yahoo groups for a while, I am surprised that no one on here mentioned a fairly common protocol for treating and beating lyme.....

Sea Salt and Vitamin C - in large quantities. Sea Salt is actually pretty good for us, can even lower High Blood Pressure, table salt makes you retain water, Natural Sea Salt (not available at the grocery store) let's your body use the water available to them and hydrate your cells.

So a tsp of sea salt (I have put mine in juice or in empty capsuls) and 6 - 10,000 units of Vitamin C spreadout over the day.

This is really a pretty cheap method, Redmonds Sea Salt is about $6.00 for a 2 lb bag and I buy 1000 mg pills of Vitamin C and it is maybe 20.00.

So for about 22.00 a month you can try this. From what I read the spirochettes can't live in the salty environment.

I used this method along with the adrenal protocol, something did work for a couple of months, but when i started running out of the Adrenal protocol I just stopped using most all of it.

I also found out I am full of candida so am treating for that as well.

Good luck.

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FREE/REDUCED-COST CARE FOR CHRONIC LYME PATIENTS

CLINIC OF ANGELS
9804 N. 56th St.
Tampa, FL 33617

(813) 980-1236

I was given a card from this clinic. It's run by an LLMD. I haven't used this clinic, so I can't tell you how good they are.

I hope this is helpful.

Kim

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Yea me to
I have no insurance

no work compensation

after i beg for bill money

and emergancy help from all the locales

I can barly get some food for my wife and kid

I have to let meds go to do that

whe're soon to be homless

And i'm to sick to do anything about it

I just take it one day at a time

and leave the rest to God

I'v done all I can do

It breaks my heart to let my six year old

daughter down.

I'm not even able to do free stuff with her.

we'll hang one and keep praying

he has got me this far

You have my empathy

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finally hope,

please copy your last post at 141 am and start it in MEDICAL

subject: Can lyme disease be cured & stop taking meds?


then please tell us about how long you've had lyme and which meds you've been on for how low ... thanks


now please delete the one i noted above from this link...
click on pencil, 3rd box to right of your name
go to top left corner and click delete post ...

ignore moderator's comment. huge thanks [Wink] hugs

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quote:
Originally posted by troutscout:
I figured out how to make money while sick...yet not be tied down to hours. This past twelve months I have brought in more than my wife...and I was sicker than hell the whole time.

here's the problem......whenever...I try to help peole on this website make enough to pay their bills also....(I was deathly ill guys).....the "Administrators" of this site....edit me off....

Its lularky that I am NOT allowed to share my secrets.....with those that suffer as I do.

What a shame...what a shame.

Trout [Wink]
PS...In fact with market as bad as it is....I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH DEMAND!


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Troutscout
I could really use that secret but your mailbox is full.

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I am new and I see you have alot of replies already, I was just wondering do you qualify for any kind of help from the state where you are??? IE: health insurance through the state?? It has saved my backside for over 4 years. However they are taking it away now and I am in the same boat as far as the doctors, paying them, paying for rx's...how in the world will we manage, we live on my husbands disability which is just over 2 grand a month. by the time we pay bills, we are lucky if we have 300 or so to live on for the whole month. I have been trying to get SSD for almost 5 years. I just understand your frustration, fear etc...Cap
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