lymie_in_md
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It's definitedly come back for me. I've had urges as strong as a 20 something again. I guess the term a bull in China shop might be appropriate.
I suspect sexual desire is associated with zinc. I supplement with this mineral based on lack of it in food. It's also a mineral associated with the KPU protocol. So if a man's zinc level is normal then testorone levels are normal.
I guess with women, not soooo simple. Libido is more of a hormonal issue, so there is no simple remedy like there is for males.
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MDW005
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Keebler, Is there a real high percent of lyme being transmitted to your partner? I agree with you about protection...very important.
What about oral? Is the danger still there? People do the, ummm you know... the lock jaw kissing, are they susceptible to lyme also?
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Okay, showing my stupidity here---what is lock jaw kissing?
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MDW005
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Sorry starfall... french kissing
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Keebler
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- MDW,
any intimate contact that exchanges bodily fluid can pose a risk and, yes, that would include oral sex. As for kissing, different researchers say different things so it's best to have a matter of fact discussion with one's partner and your LLMD. Ask for research your LLMD may have from several sources.
Some research on this suggests that spirochetes can even pass through a condom. But I'd want to read what several researchers think about that and see the actual report. You can find that with a search of past threads in the archives.
However, even for those who don't think kissing can pass along lyme, if there is a cut or any bleeding gums for either or both love birds, that can increase the risk. It's very common for any person at any particular time to have a small cut in the mouth - even from certain foods or vigorous flossing - and bleeding gums are more common with lyme.
Biting one's mouth or tongue during a meal happens at least a few times a week - for most people. Some foods also can tear at the lining of the mouth.
Also, since lyme patients often have other chronic stealth infections, this discussion needs to consider the full range.
Love - and sharing love and touch - can be a wonderful thing. But both partners deserve to be fully informed of risks so that precautions can be considered or behavior altered. The advice of one's LLMD is best in these matters but I know not everyone can afford to secure good medical care or even treatment.
I'm sure no one with lyme would wish that on anyone whom they love. And, it can bounce back and forth from partner to partner so it can interfere with treatment success as not all abx cover everything at every time. Also important are the viruses that seems to piggy-back. Abx will not affect those at all.
More about such things as the viral infection HHV-6 (frequent for lyme patients) in the thread below.
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In addition to the usual coinfections from ticks (such as babesia, bartonella, ehrlichia, RMSF, etc.), there are some other chronic stealth infections that an excellent LLMD should know about:
I would encourage EVERY person who has received a lyme diagnosis to get the following tests.
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MDW005
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sheezz, So lyme is shared with partner like Aides?
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I was always told to keep your man happy! I really don't think that he would be has supportive as he is if he wasn't getting a little in return. You just have to find your comfortable position...also I found that a glass of wine can help Good luck MDW
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Wine? What! Don't you have alcohol intolerance like the rest of us? Don't you know drinking fuels lyme and candida? Yikes.
This is a long thread. I couldn't read it all. I feel enough like a contaminated corpse. The jury is out on sexual transmission--there is no proof and there's no agreement on the subject.
SO. My mojo is gone. My period has stopped now. My relationship is not easy. If you can spread lyme through sex or kissing, I've already done it. IT'S TOO LATE. I worry about it all the time. My husband doesn't take it seriously. These are not sexy thoughts.
I have a damaged hip due to lyme so I doubt sex will ever be pain free. I don't even feel like eating, why would I want to have sex? Uhg.
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Keebler
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- Brandilb,
It's true that alcohol is to be totally avoided. You may not yet have read the self-care guidelines so, here's that link - it's good to read the whole section so that you have the best chance possible for remission.
Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages
Sections regarding self-care:
See page 27:
CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES MUST BE FOLLOWED IF LYME SYMPTOMS ARE TO BE PERMANENTLY CLEARED:
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3. Absolutely no alcohol!
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Also see pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation. -
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. . . Yes. Oral sex is a common way to transmit the herpes simplex type 1 virus from an individual's mouth to the genital tract of a partner. Up to 50 percent of new genital herpes infections are caused by HSV-1. . . . -
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Generally all wine is gluten free, but it is best to check with the manufacture to make sure that there are no glutinous additives incorporated into the wine and to also ensure that they were stored in gluten free storage tanks. Some wines are aged in barrels that once contained another substance that could have held a glutinous product. This is rare, but can happen. Also you will want to avoid Wine Coolers. Wine Coolers are NOT Gluten Free, because they contain barely malt.
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Thank you Keebler, I will read trough it... any info helps. A glass of wine is rare for me but I have noticed that it can help. Also my LLMD says that caffeine will help my headaches and I'm taking migraine meds with caffeine in them. Starting to wonder about the Dr.
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Keebler
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- Brandi,
Alcohol will not help. It may numb you but it will not help you get over lyme.
It's the alcohol that is so damaging. Yes, most LLMD suggest being gluten-free but alcohol is to be avoided for many other reasons regarding the liver, brain, glucose stability, etc.
Even one glass can derail treatment and set one back weeks - or even cause permanent liver damage by combining with meds and lyme toxins. The liver is damaged by lyme and very stressed. Alcohol can cause a rise in porphyrins and that can kill cells. Period. That is never good. Our liver is our life line, literally.
Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages
Sections regarding self-care:
See page 27:
CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES MUST BE FOLLOWED IF LYME SYMPTOMS ARE TO BE PERMANENTLY CLEARED:
. . .
3. Absolutely no alcohol!
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Also see pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.
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It's very important to have this book as a reference tool for self-care and support measures. It answers so many questions in detail that is impossible here.
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Thanks Keebler,
I never liked mixing alcohol with intimite time. I do follow the absolute NO alcohol rule.
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There is no evidence that Lyme disease is transmitted from person-to-person. For example, a person cannot get infected from touching, kissing or having sex with a person who has Lyme disease.
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Keebler
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- Brandi,
There are several researchers who strongly suspect that lyme can be sexually transmitted. Their work is very interesting.
Bottom line is that it IS possible and - even if we don't have all the information for an absolute "yes" or "no" - it would be entirely irresponsible to have intimate contact with another without sharing all we know about ourselves regarding this matter, letting them read from various researchers on the subject and then discussing with our LLMD the safest way to proceed.
We'd all hate to see anyone else have to deal with this. Some LLMDs do assess both partners and advise accordingly.
Especially important for women of child bearing age, lyme and other tick-borne infections can be transmitted during conception (possibly from either partner) and through throughout pregnancy. With care, that can be avoided - or at least treated when it occurs so that the baby is not born with lyme - or at least properly monitored and treated.
There are other infections to be aware of regarding intimate contact. We don't know everything about the range of stealth infections that many lyme patients encounter - but we know enough to be considerate and to be safe - for ourselves and those we care about. Conversation never hurts but illness sure can. --------
quote:Originally posted by brandilb: There is no evidence that Lyme disease is transmitted from person-to-person. For example, a person cannot get infected from touching, kissing or having sex with a person who has Lyme disease.
...**cough**... yea.... many a LLMD hold such evidence. Dr. K has a good ppt up citing other physicians and researchers that have evidence also.
and again, as has been stated before, it doesnt make sense that syphilis is sexually tranmistted and lyme isnt.
and one must also have an open mind (as so many of us want our PHYSICIANS to have) that ANYTHING is possible..... espcially concerning microbes and the human body.
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Just another S-E-X question here:
Does anyone knw if Rifampin affects sex drive in any way? Sometimes my med schedule gets messed up and I end up taking my Rifampin before bed instead of midafternoon like I usually do.
What I've noticed is that if I take Rifampin before bed and we have any kind of activity, the mood just suddenly fizzles right in the middle for me.
I don't know if it's just coincidence, or if there's something to it.
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MDW005
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Starfall... not sure, I have never been on Rifampin. Maybe you can take it after your activity, then see if it's the medication, or lyme enterfering.(sp?)
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As for the Riphampin question,,,,,,I had almost NO libido prior to Riphampin. Now I have NONE.
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MDW005
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How do we turn this into a second page? getting too long
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Starfall1969
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MDW, I thought it automatically went to a second page after a certain number of responses, but I guess not...
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