richedie
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I decided Rife is wasting my time so I am going to sell my machine to someone who can use it. I am going to take the money and buy a very good juicer which I believe will serve me better. Problem is, where does one sell a Rife machine?
My local nutritionist has a state of the art Rife machine and said I could stop in his Health Food store and use it free of charge any day of the week and apparently he has a good knowledge or frequencies so I might use his if I find the desire.
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I have my doubts about them working and they are a big investment, so I won't be buying it. Good luck though! I hope you get a great juicer.
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You may want to post on the Rife thread. I'm sure you'll find some takers.
What kind is it??
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What kind of a rich machine is it. If you post some particulars, perhaps, you may find someone interested and also how much you are asking for it.
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Sorry to hear this Richie. We bought our machines about the same time from the same person. Rife has been very helpful for me. That is an important lesson to be learned about lyme and co infections. What works for one person, doesn't always work for another. I hope you sell it quickly.
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richedie
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quote:Originally posted by Rene: Sorry to hear this Richie. We bought our machines about the same time from the same person. Rife has been very helpful for me. That is an important lesson to be learned about lyme and co infections. What works for one person, doesn't always work for another. I hope you sell it quickly.
The problem I find is there are thousands of frequencies! Let's say you pick 10 to work with...you might spend months on those 10 before finding it working or not....then you move on to the next ten. It can literally take years to find the right frequencies. I don't have years to sit in front of a Rife machine. I used to sit in front of it for hours while playing guitar or watching TV....nothing.
What unit you have? Not even sure of mne anymore. What frequencies worked for you? I am still not sure it works. There is no proof.
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quote:Originally posted by richedie:
quote:Originally posted by Rene: Sorry to hear this Richie. We bought our machines about the same time from the same person. Rife has been very helpful for me. That is an important lesson to be learned about lyme and co infections. What works for one person, doesn't always work for another. I hope you sell it quickly.
The problem I find is there are thousands of frequencies! Let's say you pick 10 to work with...you might spend months on those 10 before finding it working or not....then you move on to the next ten. It can literally take years to find the right frequencies. I don't have years to sit in front of a Rife machine. I used to sit in front of it for hours while playing guitar or watching TV....nothing.
What unit you have? Not even sure of mne anymore. What frequencies worked for you? I am still not sure it works. There is no proof.
For borrelia burdorferi I have a list further down called "Significant Frequencies." This substantially reduces the amount of effort one needs to find frequencies for treating Lyme and associated infections.
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I have the same machine you have. Mine has the added "computer" where I can dial in exact frequencies. I found 432, 612 and 2016 worked extremely well for lyme. I had to start at 15 seconds due to the severe herxes. I still after 6 months am only up to 2 minutes on those frequencies. I also have had success with 832. I hope these are helpful.
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richedie
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Yep I have tried all the frequencies you all listed above, including those significant frequencies..I have say for hours with this machine with nothing noticeable.
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richedie
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Yep I have tried all the frequencies you all listed above, including those significant frequencies..I have say for hours with this machine with nothing noticeable. My doctor says Lyme is not my issue any longer. It is Bartonella and Babs. Rife only works for Lyme, if at all....hence my problem.
Maybe I will try again tonight for a few hours. Can someone remind me how the frequencies work??? Do I use the last number in the Hz section that is labeled 0.1? So if you say use a frequency of 76, do I actually punch in 760??? Confused on that one!
I also tend to sit right next to the machine and keep my painful left side closest to the machine.
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Richedie, I know I said this before, but it seems like everything you're posting screams it's not Lyme you're facing. I know the million dollar question is what is the issue. I pray the answer is found and you get relief.
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I have felt like u many times. Is Rife the answer? Don't know. Its the only thing helping me after 2 years ABX.
My body no longer feels its being battered w/something thats weakening me every step of the way.
My Dcoil, FIR, supps, healthy eating have turned my life around. Sypmptoms not gone but definitely improved sine going off ABX and trying other methods.
Also finally getting excercise after 2 years.
Going slow. That being said I definitely feel high dose amoxy was the turning point for me. Pamela Weintraub cited this for herself in (cure Unknown). So while I definitely know ABX played a major role in my recovery I feel that there are meany players in this game.
Not going back on ABX. I'll keep looking for another answer. Currently looking into the liberation treatment. Using it for MS but I think many things point other conditions???????
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richedie
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My doctor uses a doctor of nutrition who works out of her office as well. She use Bio Energenic testing to see what is going on in my body and so far she has been fairly accurate. When this start, she saw loads of Lyme, Babesa and no Bartonella because she can only test for a couple of Bart strains.
Without me saying anything to her, she saw that I had serious yeast issues. I could tell I was developing yeast issues based on my symptoms but I never said anything to her and she found it. I also never told her where I was hurting worst but with bioenergenic testing she was able to pinpoint my worst spots that really only I knew about. That made me a believer.
So she said I have been clear of Lyme for close to a year now but still sees small amounts of Babs and thinks I am still loaded with Bart and Candida.
By the way, my Rife machine is working fine. I took it to my local nnutritionist who has a rife machine and said it is working just like new. I spend two hours last night on all of the strongly suggested frequencies.
Metalic Blue, Do you know the key frequencies for Candida?
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I don't off the top of my head but I do know that if you ask in the "Big" rife thread in Medical that they'll tell you. Someone listed them earlier in the thread but going back thru it would be tedious.
Ask again.
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richedie
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Is it called the "Big" rife thread ?
Another question would be, how do you know when Rife is working?
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You should gradually see your symptoms alleviate over 6 months - 12 (on average), but the first month, and second month can be hell. You'd feel like you were dying probably with a significant worsening of symptoms early in treatment.
That's what happens to most people. The rife thread is here:
Use that thread and my Rife Frequency List to get all your info. If you aren't responding at all to any Lyme Frequencies on the "Significant" list, then it's very likely co-infections are a bigger issue or some other factor.
If you haven't read Bryan Rosner's book When Antibiotic Fail, then it's a good idea to get a copy used, or borrow a copy from someone. Amazon sells it. If you want to dig even deeper the Rife Frequency Handbook is excellent but it's very expensive. I bought it and am glad I did because I keep returning to it for reference. It's expensive because it's like a college textbook.
Also, if you are on antibiotics, especially high doses constantly, the rife is a lot less likely to work. You may not have any response if that is the case. Rife doesn't work well at all if the infection has converted to Cyst forms.
The books and the Rife thread will accelerate your knowledge drastically.
The thing about Rife is that the type of machine matters, the duration of treatment matters, the frequency matters. If one machine isn't working for you, these machines are easy to sell because a lot of people want them. Even on Lymenet you can tell people you're selling it. They don't really give people much trouble over selling their own machine.
If you've given high dose complicated antibiotic routines and antiparasitics, viruses, then Rife is worth investing in since the only real thing you lose is time.
I'd make sure to put your heart into it and understanding it as thoroughly as you can before you give up on it, because it's clearly doing something to help an awful lot of people get better who otherwise failed on antibiotics, including IV therapies.
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richedie
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Keep in mind I used my Rife machine for a few months and noticed nothing. I also used lists on this site and I have the handbook. Is the When Antibiotic Fail book...basically the same thing? I might try another month or two. My doctor thinnks I am done with Lyme and now just fighting Babs and Bart. I am spending about an hour every other day with the Rife machine.
Still not a believer in Rife but will give another try.
What more is there to do other than follow the frequency guide and spend the time? That's it. I do about an hour every other day and run through some key frequencies about 5 minutes each.
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When Antibiotics fail is pretty simple compared to the Frequency handbook. It's almost like a concise version.
Try using the frequencies for Bartonella and Babesia, but use them longer. For example, use less frequencies but spend 10 minutes on them each to see what happens. Pad devices work for some while plasma work for others.
Explore as much as you can. If it just doesn't work out, sell your gear and try another machine or try another therapy. With Rife, it's not a question of whether it works in my opinion. It's a matter of whether it's the right therapy matched to the right disease process.
With the amount of medicine combinations you've done, you'd had to have made a dent if Lyme were involved. Time seems to be the most important factor rather than dose or rotating drugs.
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richedie
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My doctor said I did have a heavy Lyme load but thinks we got it all. However, thinks my main symptoms are from Babs and Bart. Mostly Bart. Been on Rifampin and now Alinia and Biaxin for three months now.
I am thinking of ditching it all next year and doing Cowden and juicing, go the total health route.
My Oncologist wants to try me on chemotherapy since I have MGUS which can cause symptoms.
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