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These two newspapers are part of the same company:
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Seems they should change this description to "Journalism at its worst"
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Whenever they start rehashing all this, they bring up the same old admonitions and the same people even from years ago are dragged thru the mud again.
Don't they understand that Lyme can KILL? (I guess not... it's all in our heads.)
oh.. and they always say that research showed long term abx to not work.. Their definition of "long term" is roughly 2-3 months if my memory serves me correctly. What a joke!
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Well, that definitely cured my LBP. Unbelievable.
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Take a look under comments. I posted a 4 part series response entirely rebutting their position, and I provided access to my article: The Case For Chronic Infection, which I continue to update as new studies come out. I'm also currently expanding to cover issues that "cause" persistence, such as biofilms, and newer data that gives us a bigger picture of "how", not just what borrelia does when exposed to antibiotics.
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Thanks, MB. You always make me feel better.
I picture you with shield up and sword drawn!
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Yeah, little good it will do me when I'm homeless on the streets, not able to work, and watch my family crumble. They've already pulled the trigger IMO. I don't believe many are actually reading these rebuttals except for IDSA and the never-ending Lyme activists.
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quote:Originally posted by seekhelp: This war can't be won. That's pretty clear.
It will be won. Only one theory can withstand time and scrutiny. Pick up a copy of "The Structure Of Scientific Revolutions" by Thomas Khune
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I really think we should push to get alex jones to cover this.
He has a huge, huge audience, and might actually do it (if he's not controlled opposition.)
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Well, you noticed that it is in several of the Tribune company newspapers. The Courant in CT is in that same group. It will probably be in all of them. That is why concentrating media in the hands of large companies is a bad idea.
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I don't understand why it's ok to treat acne with long-term antibiotics but not Lyme.
I also find it frustrating that they believe there is a cure already, which is why there will always be opposition in funding more research. Why fund something that's already solved?!
They also fail to mention the thousands of patients who are misdiagnosed with something else before they find out they have lyme.
What bull.
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quote:Originally posted by seekhelp: [QB] Yeah, little good it will do me when I'm homeless on the streets, not able to work, and watch my family crumble. They've already pulled the trigger IMO. I don't believe many are actually reading these rebuttals except for IDSA and the never-ending Lyme activists.
In the short-term, you're right. Whether it takes another decade, two, three or a century, what I said is true. I'm sorry it doesn't bring anyone comfort, but it never was intended to.
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I encourage everyone to post my link in all those newspaper comment sections. Remember, if even one more person reads it, it's beneficial. Again, the link is: https://acrobat.com/app.html#d=sbb-EmpQrQTgrPoezLGreg
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Anyone who calls this reporter at home is going to be considered a stalker. This is not a good idea. Going after one lousy lying reporter will not change our situation a bit. Change has got to be made at the top, the govt health bureaucracies, before we get any real relief.
There are just too many people willing to carry the water for the big guys. Changing their minds will not persuade the big guys.
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I don't think the reporter thinks she's lying. I believe she's JUST reporting WHAT is told to her.
This is NOT the person to respond too! Look deeper and you will KNOW who to respond too!
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Like Lymetoo says...THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL!
MY Mom always said...GOD DOESN'T SLEEP!
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The IDSA has hired a PR firm. This is the work of their PR firm, most likely. They are paying to save their butts from what will happen to them if they are exposed. And this same newspaper group has written many anti Chronic Lyme articles, unfortunately.
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Wonder the strategy of why now to attack the non-existence of chronic Lyme with the papers????
Maybe because a new vaccine is coming out in January????
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According to the NIH thug who coerced Burgdorfer into "not telling [Kris Kraft] everything," the ones responsible are "all the way at the top."
A new reporter is not at the top, and the IDSA is not at the top.
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quote:Originally posted by Tracy9: [QB] The IDSA has hired a PR firm. This is the work of their PR firm, most likely. They are paying to save their butts from what will happen to them if they are exposed. And this same newspaper group has written many anti Chronic Lyme articles, unfortunately.
I believe it!! They are working hard, aren't they!
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At the top to me has always been the guys in the govt health bureaucraces. The thing is that those people do change from time to time but the policy lives on. Too hard to admit they were wrong? Too stupid to know it? What?
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I believe with all my heart, that the truth will prevail. I think these thugs are doing everything in their power to look good and make us look bad.
You see, there's WAY TOO many of us who can come forward to prove them wrong. Which brings me to ask? What THE HELL ARE WE WAITING FOR?
Washington anyone?
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Someone named Reality Vs. Perception wrote a 6 part series, basically in opposition of every single thing I've said. At the end he then says "I have no agenda."
It's on page 1 and 2. Get a laugh while you can.
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That would be Eddie. He doesn't have much else to do except harrass lyme patients.
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First off, I wanted to say how happy and proud I am of all of you and to be a part of this. (No not having Lyme) you know the community.
Next, as upset as I am about this article, lets please be smart about our actions. The Mass media has labeled us as basically quacks. We need to keep our cool and come back with information and facts, no need to fuel...no pun intended fire.
I would consider everyone on this forum as highly intelligent proactive people. Lets get these ....you know
Fuel
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Here are the medical and scientific writings in the past of one of the authors. Looks like she was promoted way past her competence at a newspaper with no professional standards at all, with a history of fraud.
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47 posts categorized "Trine Tsouderos" December 18, 2008
Oatmeal food fight: Now it's Jamba Juice vs. Starbucks
Posted by Trine Tsouderos at 7:00 a.m. CDT
Oatmeal is hot, cheap and filling. Perfect food for a time when 500,000 jobs are lost each month. Happy days. Anyway, big corporations seem to be sensing these are oatmeal days -- Starbucks introduced its oatmeal in September. On Dec. 18, Jamba Juice, which has almost 750 stores, is previewing its version in all of its Chicago locations, with plans to roll it out across the nation in mid-January. For $2.95, Jamba Juice is promising slow-cooked (well, 40 minutes) organic steel-cut oats in three flavors, cinnamon crumble, banana and blueberry. The oatmeal will be available each morning, until 11 a.m.
Posted by leisureblogs at 7:00 AM in Breakfast, Restaurants, Trine Tsouderos | Permalink | Comments (2) November 17, 2008 First bite: Briejo
Posted by Trine Tsouderos at 3:55pm CDT
We suburbanites get a little defensive when city folk assume our restaurants pale in comparison to theirs. And so it is with great hope that we await the opening of a new one, which, we imagine, will be fantastic, the equal of any (well, almost) in the city. And so I walked into Briejo, a brand-new jewel-box of a restaurant in Oak Park, this weekend with a head full of optimism.
Briejo is small, and very dark, with great red and yellow swaths of fabric the color of Indian spices breaking up the brick-walled space and giving the whole place, flickering with candlelight, a cozy exotic air. On this Saturday night, the dozen or so tables were packed, as was the bar, and reservations, gotten that day, were necessary. The place hummed with a certain buzz, but it wasn't loud. People had dressed up a little, even though the tables were covered with brown paper, not white tablecloths.
Our friendly and efficient waitress rattled off a few specials and took our drink orders, which we chose from a list of a couple of dozen wines by the glass, most priced at about $7 a pour. The menu included a handful of soups and salads, about a half dozen appetizers and an equal number of entrees. The feel was eclectic, with a nod toward seasonality and a favor for seafood, from mussels in garlic, shallots and wine ($9) to tilapia steamed in parchment paper ($16).
We ordered the goat cheese and marinara gratin dip with garlic crisps ($8), which came as an island of soft goat cheese surrounded by a sea of bland marinara sauce with several pieces of thin toast lacquered with garlic butter in which the garlic had been burned and tasted bitter. I ordered the pork tenderloin in raspberry BBQ sauce with a side of truffled mac and cheese ($20), while my guest ordered the roasted vegetable risotto ($17). The pork was extremely tender, almost soft, but under-seasoned under its tart-sweet shellac of barbecue sauce. The truffle macaroni and cheese was to die for, luscious with a lovely earthy note from the truffle. The bland risotto disappointed. Its watery vegetables seemed steamed, not roasted, and the risotto itself lacked that dish's starchy, indulgent richness.
Dessert was goat cheese cheesecake ($7) with hazelnut brittle, which delighted. It came in its own little pot, wonderfully creamy with a bright tangy note thanks to the goat cheese and a crackling of sweet thanks to the brittle. We ordered the dish meaning just to taste it, but we shamefully finished the whole thing. I left wondering why all cheesecake isn't made with goat cheese. It was that good. Walking home, I felt good about Briejo. Could it survive in the city? Give it a few months.
Briejo , 211 Harrison St., Oak Park ; 708-848-2743
Posted by leisureblogs at 3:46 PM in First bite, Restaurants, Trine Tsouderos | Permalink | Comments (2) November 04, 2008
(Lots more like that.)
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I really laid into them today. Check out the name "Michael Parent."
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MB, you were buuuuuuuuuusssssssy!!!!!
Way to kick some tushy!!
That was great, really!
Thanks for working so hard on our behalf. On my daughter's behalf.
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Is everyone reading those many, many replies coming from people from everywhere?
So articulate, so intelligent, so heartfelt!
Awesome!
Faith as big as a mustard seed can move mountains!
We can never give up - we have some mountains that need moving!
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I went after them again today. It seems the more I attack, the lower the rating goes. The article now has less than one start with over 21,000 voters.
They deserve it.
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I know it probably won't help, but i sent in my tactful 2 cents directly to the authors.
YOU NEVER KNOW! if you can get 1 lowly reporter to see the light...there just might be more stories that advocate truth.
Being that Chicago is one of the most corrupt cities around (basing this off my political friends that live in Chicago), not likely to strike a cord there, but still....you never know!!
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Just got an email from a friend who saw it in his Consumer Health Digest put out by Quackwatch, which called it an "excellent" article...
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Although very damaging, I agree with Metallic Blue, the truth is on our side and it is very hard to suppress the truth forever.
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I myself refuse to read the article. I fear it will trigger a murderous Lyme rage.
However I remain extremely optimistic that the truth will come out. It ALWAYS DOES. The magnitude of human suffering will reach a critical mass making it undeniable.
Remember, we now have SENATOR Blumenthal in our court. I do not believe he has abandoned us. As Senator, he can do things that as AG he could not.
Who would have thought even a couple of years ago that the Conn. State legislature would pass UNANIMOUSLY a law protecting docs from sanctions for prescribing long-term antibiotics?
Who would have thought that the Ct Governor would sign the bill AGAINST THE ADVICE OF HER OWN PUBLIC HEALTH COMMISSIONER, who testified against the bill?
Who would have thought that the CT Governor would have a bill-signing ceremony in which she stated the magnitude of human suffering made this bill necessary? And then to have the scumbag Public Health Commisioner sheepishly announce that this was an important bill for Lyme patients?
Keep the faith people.
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Yep.. you got it!
Looks like we are getting another Whalen from the dark side.
The infamous Forbes' Whalen and this one (Auntie Elizabeth), and quack watch.... all waddling in the same big pile of poopy.
Quack, quack, quack!!!
Not bad enough they enjoy kicking the stuffings out of the parents of children with autism.... now they feel they have to also try to beat down those who suffer from medical neglect from not being diagnosed or treated properly for Lyme.
Of course let's not forget the ALDF- who gets their jollies when this kind of trash oozes out in the press ... is that their fingerprint on it? They must be having a victory celebration, at our expense.
I really don't know what they would serve (food and drinks) at a "beating up on the sick, disabled and down trodden" party... do you?
Oh ... and get this.. the IDSA refers people to QuackWatch as a "Health Website"!!!! So much for credibility!
And then of course there are the others who relish in dumping on us, and our docs, our labs and the fact that there could potentially be such a thing as chronic Lyme.
You can see who some of them are by looking at who the ALDF supports or recommends- mostly the instigators of the "we hate chronic Lyme patients, advocates and docs cause they are proving us wrong", that hang in and about Bethesda and Atlanta.
The ONLY patient support group the ALDF has listed for PATIENTS to benefit from- you know- those who suffer and who they are charged with helping- or have they forgotten that concept?
Anyhow...
For support they offer us a link to web site that you have to PAY to get them to help you. So much for the almighty buck over patient's welfare AGAIN.
But not to be dismayed .. although you need to pay for their un-educational literature if you need hand-outs for an event....
It appears to be free to get a referral from them to see some of the IDSA's special ducks.
And even those who buddy with them, who don't have a duck license, are willing to help your doctor un-diagnose you. How generous they are.
They state...
"The foundation maintains a national physician referral service that includes board-certified specialists who have been contacted by the ALDF and have agreed to evaluate and treat Lyme disease patients.
Leading Lyme disease researchers serving as medical advisors to the ALDF may also be available for medical consultations with physicians in non-endemic areas who may not be familiar with Lyme disease diagnosis and treatment."
I wonder if the 45 cents worth of Doxy the special ducks may prescribe (if you meet all their criteria) is provided for when you pay the astronomical fees for the special duck office visits ..
Or if you'd need to pay another $75.00 for the measly handful of pills their Guidelines say are ok to have?
Yep, Whalen, Whalen, Whalen again.
I hope Harvard is proud to have produced such amazing slimes.
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BTW- I wrote this the first day. They have a LONG history of printing garbage when it comes to Lyme.
Obviously they aren't going to publish it. I wonder why? HA!
Dear Editor,
It appears the despicable mob mentality in Chicago didn't end when the infamous Al Capone met his demise.
The Tribune has apparently been mesmerized by those in this century who are just as notorious, which partially explains your 100% failure rate to get it right when reporting on issues related to Lyme disease.
In 1992 the Tribune went on record promoting inaccurate Lyme disease testing - Wisconsin researchers have announced the first definitive... [test for tick-borne Lyme disease.]
Your sources, supporters of the Infectious Diseases Society of America, who the Attorney General recently stated, ".. undercut its credibility by allowing individuals with financial interests -- in drug companies, Lyme disease diagnostic tests, patents and consulting arrangements with insurance companies -- to exclude divergent medical evidence and opinion'', should not be considered reliable or unbiased given the IDSA's well-publicized legal troubles.
Your 1997 article, New Vaccine Proves Perfect In Preventing Lyme Disease, again promoted profits for stakeholders at the expense of patients.
FYI- that ``perfect'' vaccine (based on unreliable tests) was removed from the market in record time- after over 1,000 people reported adverse events and multiple law suits were initiated.
It was a multi-million dollar flop, paid for in part by tax-payers.
Your 2001 claim, Lyme disease study finds little to fear, holds no water with the growing number of patients suffering from a disease that causes heart block, severe neurological symptoms, blindness and crippling muscle, bone and joint pain, amongst other symptoms.
The ``exploding'' Lyme epidemic has been described as a national health crisis, yet your article discounted its severity in what appears to be an attempt to cover the back-sides of those who keep spouting their inaccurate, yet self-promoting tax-payer funded research theories.
In your latest article, the unflattering twisted portrayal of our chronically ill and often disabled patients (many are children who can't stand up for themselves against your vicious attacks) only serves as another means of revenge by those already proven by authorities to be unscrupulous.
I would appreciate it if you would stop bludgeoning the sick and misleading innocent readers.
Assuming you don't have a personal stake in the outcome, please just ignore the advise of the galactically stupid and enormously greedy who have led you down the wrong road multiple times.
Maybe then the Tribune could finally get it right and be of service, rather than a disservice to its readers.
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