I'm seeing an Dr K trained, ART pracicing specialist in the UK and have been doing so for the last 6 months.
I diagnosed with Lyme by an elisa and CD 57 (low score of 18) in September 09 and have been recieving a combination of antibiotic and herbal treatments since then.
In the ART testing, borrelia never seems to come up for some reason. Mycoplasma is fairly consistent as well as virus such as herpes and chicken pox which come and go. I've asked my practioner about why it never comes up and he says its fairly unusual.
I'm having another blood test done for Lyme next week.
I was wondering if anyone has had experience with muscle testing, art etc where borrelia never come up despite being formally diagnosed.
I'm still suffering from a variety of neurological symptoms, as well a seeing what look spirochettes in my left eye.
Could it be that I've actually gotten rid of lyme and that virus + mycoplasma are causing my woes?
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Recent news, mentioned at a Dr. K. conference in May, is that most neurological symptoms are actually from CCSVI--a blockage in veins in the neck. Now, this can be caused by biofilm because one has lyme, but it does open possibility for a person having remaining neurological symptoms after killing all the lyme.
But you've still got low CD57, makes me think you still are fighting borrelia infection, maybe it is just a little borrelia and mostly other stuff, with borrelia stuffed in the biofilm and not easily accessible, and not causing the major problem now.
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I would bet it's not ready to come up yet. I bet it's buried under layers upon layers of stuff.
Your body knows which layer it wants removed first. Your body will help you take a much easier route than the hard way.
Be patient. Let your body know you trust it. Trust the doctor too. It helps the process. I know you want it over with NOW, I know how that feels. Patience my dear, patience.
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You might want to ask the ART practioner what to treat first. If it's micoplasma and viruses that is all course of actions different then BB. Down the road BB might show up again once you rid yourself of one problem, another show itself as Pam says.
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Many thanks for all your reponses, I hope to be as helpful as you guys by contributing with my own experiences so far.
I think my practioner goes on whatever he feels my body should deal with at the time in order to heal the immune system one step at a time.
Mycoplasma is one that conistantly comes and goes but Chicken pox came up (is now gone) and recently herpes as appeared out of no where.
I appreciated that patience is key and I completely get what Pam says about the feeling of just wanting things done now. I believe the DR K approach is all about dealing with things in layers.
My symptoms feel mostly inflammatory related across the left hand side of my body which includes brain down to my feet (mostly brain though, feels like its swelling affecting vision, speech, memory etc).
I'm curious to see what my new Elisa + CD57 test will show, and will keep you all updated.
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Lyme has never been shown curable with the drugs that are available now. I don't see any reason to think ART would be any more able to rule it out than any other test...if you have symptoms, you need to proceed as if you have it.
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Well you have to understand the process and there's not awhole lot of confidence on the process (that is available namely traditional medicine) and where it has lead many of us down long long hard road.
Can't treat an illness the body doesn't even accept is there or recognizes? Think about that?
If your immune system is producing anti-bodies why isn't the immune system attacking and killing off this simple lyme bacteria?
Might be much deeper than a simple bacterial infection. Don't forget you are dealing with a very intelligent bacteria that is able to change itself in order to avoid abx?????
It certainly can fool the immune system too? Maybe the body knows more than we give it credit for?
Lyme might just be there, most likely it is there....hidden under the biggest pile of garbage that it can find. Pretty smart son of a gun, wouldn't you say.
With all the co-infections, viral, bacteria, protozoa, parasites and toxins who or what is protecting this mighty lyme bacteria?
Maybe the people that are being "cured" quickly just have the borrelia spirochete and are a lucky percentange of people?
Why waste a good abx or protocol treating a layer buried so deep all the tx in the world could be thrown at it and it still has several layers of more toxic matter to protect it?
A very smart LLMD told me he didn't think a "cure" was there for anyone and everyone until we understand the borrelia at the celluar level.
We(being from the top all the way down to the poor souls suffering) can't get past it being a simple take 2 abx a day for 10-14 days and don't call me if you can't shake it after that mentality. Take prozac and accept your fate.
Pam
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