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phorts
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I feel like so much of our healing rests on faith. 1. we must have faith and believe that our diagnosis is accurate and 2. that the healing path we've chosen is working.

I have a story similar to most folks here. Years and years of un/misdiagnosed suffering. Diagnosed w/ Lyme Nov '10. Tried 3 different courses of heavy Abx w/ no effect. Went the herbal route and am currently on just Teasel (3 drops 3x/day) along with w/ the std supplements.

My state of health has been slowly, but continually getting worse each and every day, and this has been the case since day 1. Every day i learn to accept a new threshold of misery.

I feel the immediate impact when i take the teasel. All of my neurological symptoms get worse within minutes. To me, i see this as that things are working and moving around. I mean, would an otherwise healthy person react in any way to Teasel tincture?

I keep telling myself that, eventually, things are going to start getting better. But, i cant escape that lingering feeling that maybe things arent getting worse before they're getting better....maybe they're just getting...worse, as they always have.

I keep telling those close to me that i'm not sure how much worse it can get before i'm not able to function in life. Caring for my yound daughter and being there for her. Holding my job, keeping a marriage happy and, god forbid, enjoying life! And then it gets worse....and it continues to take everything i have to get through each and every day....just surviving.

So, sorry for the rant. I read a lot of depressed cries for help on these and other forums and, I empathize with you all.

Things will get better, right?

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Carol in PA
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quote:
Originally posted by phorts:

All of my neurological symptoms get worse within minutes.

Okay, it's doing something.
So what are you doing for liver support?
Liver support means providing the liver with the things it needs to make glutathione.

When the Lyme bacteria die, what's left behind is stuff that is neurotoxic, or poison to the nerves.
Many of the Lyme symptoms are due to this.

Other symptoms may be due to nutritional deficiencies, which happen because the intestines do not absorb what we need, or to the immune system reacting.

The liver makes glutathione and neutralizes the poisons, which go into the bile and then into the intestines, where the bile helps to digest fats.

Liver support:
Magnesium
Fish oil
Milk thistle, sylmarin
CoEnzyme Q10
Acetyl l-carnitine
Alpha Lipoic Acid
N-acetyl cysteine

You can take glutathione directly, but I don't think it makes it through the digestive system.
The liver does better when it's provided with the right constituents.

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phorts - It's been ages! Good to hear from you. Sorry the circumstances aren't so great.

Many questions:

What is a round of antibiotics? How many months? How many abx at one time?

What is your co-infection status? Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella are practically guaranteed, plus parasites, viruses, etc. Have you tested and/or treated for these?

Did you feel better or herx on the abx?

Do you have a good LL doc, who has helped many patients achieve remission? No good Lyme doc would let you decline each month!

3 drops 3x/day of teasel is not enough to make significant progress. These microbes will multiply faster than you can kill them. You may be responding to it for several reasons. You could be killing the most vulnerable pathogens, but not making a dent in the overall population. You could be reacting to the alcohol. You could be having a detox reaction.

It takes most of us years to notice big upward trends in our health. Yes, we herx, and some symptoms may improve, but significant gains that last can take several years of consistent abx, herbs, supps, and detox.

I'm going to ask that this be moved to Medical Questions for more responses.

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Moving to Medical Questions

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Opinions, not medical advice!

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