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Poor, poor Silver. Took her to the doc to get some of the skin tags around her neck removed (very common with diabetics). The PA (wonderful young lady named "B") used a liquid nitrogen "gun" (I think the office uses it to make ice cream during lunch break ! But it hurt my sweetie so much. She was crying, PA was crying (and apologizing for causing the pain) and well I must of had something in my eyes.
It will take a couple days for them to dry up and fall off, but for now Wolfn is on pain meds and fixing to head to bed. "B" also prescribed her a Z pack as Silver has an infection in her sinuses.
Afterwards I got her a Mocha frappachino at Micky D's and a bunless burger w/fries at Wendy's.
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Who is Silver?
I have never heard of this kind of treatment being painful. Several family members have had skin tags or moles frozen off!
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Who is Silver?
Several of my family members have had moles or skin tags frozen off - none of them ever experienced pain with it! I have a feeling this technician didn't know what she was doing!
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Sounds like a rough day. I am so sorry. I have had that done and it hurts, and mine wasn't on a delicate area.
Happy you had your treat!
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AuntyLynn - Silver is my better half - Silverwolf! Thanks for the well wishes.
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Hi there <<<<< TxCoord-Hubby-DearHeart ,AuntyLynn, and Dogsandcats >>>>>,
Uhr...uh I is/am me Silverwolf/Wolfi/Wolfn/Silverwolfi etc. !!!
I do wish that we had a way to get these growths of my neck [and other areas] w/o pain. There are more than a hundred... and some have grown together.
Some of the growths stick up,and cause problems, some are flat,and some look more like Bartonella 'stretch marks' turned brownish and slightly raised.
We are concentrating on the ones that stick up/and/or appear to be changing. Wish I could just be put under,and have these sliced/and/ burned.
They are spreading and it looks unappealing. One of the ones we worked on yesterday, sticks out over a quarter of an inch [I call it the Frankenstein goober-bolt].
Most necklaces are out of the question,and some types of lacy blouses/shirts...until the worst of these are removed. I wanted to have many of them removed in 94-95 -when we had insurance- the doctor I had back then said no.
Because that medical group uses/d the injection/slice/burn at $15 a piece,[on over a hundred of these]...the Doc, back then, didn't feel insurance would pay for it, cosmetic ya know... . So we didn't have it done back then...
And now, to have the problematic ones, removed, we use what methods the clinic can do for a reasonable fee[ as I have no insurance still].
Thanks TxC' for posting this, Dogsandcats, thanks for the kind tho'ts. *AuntyLynn, I wonder if they used a numbing agent on *your family members,before slicing or burning/freezing??
It is good that *they didn't have pain issues with the procedures! We didn't pre-numb on the neck area, and it was very painful, tho' the PA used as much care and caution as possible[and she has done the procedure many times].
It hasn't helped that I have a sinus infection and sore throat right now either. I have tried various methods at home to remove the skin tags,and they were not effective.
So, I finally turned to the clinic,to see if they can get these darn skin-tag growths to die off. I have a younger sibling,who had to have three procedures done,-on one growth- on the lip to get the growth to die.
[Cauterize/burn- then Freeze off- then cut out]. They couldn't eat anything spicy or acidic for a- bout a month. A parent gets them too, but manages to slice them off.
We'll see if this stops mine from growing / regrowing . I am praying they die off quickly... The flatter type growths,I could use special make-up to disguise [ I don't because of cost].
But these ugly/painful/sticking-out ones have to go. They itch, bleed and are otherwise an unsightly nuisance.
I'll update in a few days,after we see if they will die and fall of,as they are supposed too. I'll say ,for as difficult as it is/used to be, for me to have blood drawn...
If it would have read true in the tests ,all they'd have had to do was cut one of these skin-tags off...they bleed really a whole lot w/o proper burn/freeze to seal them.
I'm off for now, thanks again,for the comments and wishes!
Sleepy, Silverwolfi [no howls from my scratchy throat...just whimpers].
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Just for general info' :
If I seem in anyway short tempered,please forgive me. I cannot tel if I sound grumpy right now.
My neck both burns and itches, I am having an allergy related flareup including eczema [which hasn't plagued me since junior high]as well as 'IBS' symptoms,
and w/ a sinus infection-sore throat, added into the Lyme and Co's/diabetes mess...I'm probably a bit of a grumpy bear of a Wolfi. So again,I apologize if I come across as a meanie/grump.
Jus' Silverwolfi melting and itchy-ouch-ie-fied
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From one wolfie to another......
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Silverwolf, Sooo sorry to hear about all this.
I hope it heals quickly.
((((hugs))))
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i have many of them too but my ins will only let them remove 3 a year. i save it for the ones near my bra or waistband...it waould seem when they bleed they would be an infection risk and should be taken off...i hate them
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<<<<< aklnwlf, and Carol in PA >>>>>,
Hi there, thanks for the hugs and healing wishes. It is so strange, most of the time, the 'freezer-burnt' growths itch now,and then out of no where my whole neck and head feels like I am on fire.
A friend dropped by that has had a similar procedure done some years back,and they got the odd 'feels like I'm on fire' for a few days after.
They were told it is an after effect of a shock type response to the body. Makes sense to me...I just hope it calms down soon, and that this works.
Thanks again for the kind hugs and wishes.I'm hoping my antibiotics will be here by the weekend. That may help as well.
Jus' Silverwolfi trying not to scratch...
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<<<<< lpkayak >>>>>>,
So sorry you have this mess too,it is really frustrating, they catch on things,and itch,and sometimes bleed as you mentioned.
They seem to get most everywhere, don't they. Don't know how many treatments I'll need. Hopefully the bill wont be too outrageous, it depends on how well they heal,how much it turns out to be and so on [as to how soon I have another procedure].
We had it done at a slide fee clinic ,the clinic that has the freeze gun procedure, is a bit over an hour from us.
I am glad there was a clinic to go to that will accept us. We budgeted as best we can for the procedure.
Jus' Silverwolfi here
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i had one removed at the dr's office too. i think he used some liquid stuff and froze it. man it hurt. my eyes watered. it was under my breast at the bra line and was very painful.
it hurt for days.
now i've got another one under the other breast that i'll have to have removed.
grrr, i dread it.
it does hurt.
sorry you had to go through this. sucks doesn't it??
somebody recommended wart removal stuff and said cover it with a bandaid. well i couldn't use it on that area but it might work on other areas tho. might be worth a shot.
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Hey <<<<< randibear >>>>>,
Sorry you get these too, its painful to remove them for certain.
A friend from college recommends trying 'Compound W', it's wart remover...so we are going to check cost effectiveness. I'll probably try it,on the neck/throat ones.
I get them under the breasts,bra-line,and other areas too. But there's over 100 on my neck/throat area.
I was told these skin tags are consistent w/ PCOS [Stein-Leventhal disease] and Insulin resistance issues. I think it's most likely related to the Lyme and Co's as well.
I figure that the Nitrogen freeze gun might hurt a bit,but I didn't expect to necessarily need pain meds,or end up in tears. But then I don't handle pain very well anymore.
Thanks for the kind reply!
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Hi y'all,
Just a bit of an update : So far as I can tell we manged to 'freezer burn' 10 or so of the skin tags. They are turning black and hopefully will start falling off in a couple more days.
I am hoping my Antibiotic comes this afternoon. Then if all goes well I can get the sinus/sore throat issues under control. It should cut chances of infection after the skin tag procedure too.
Thanks for hugs, and kind tho'ts, prayers too!!!
Jus' that Silveri-Wolfi
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Silverwolf -
I hope you are through with pain by now.
I don't know if my relatives had anesthetic. One had a brown tag that stuck out from her neck for years, it would rub over her collar line. When she had it removed it looked like she had a hickey. (!) Said it didn't hurt though.
Ever try to put Vitamin E on skin injuries? It works really well IMHO. Soothing and helps to prevent (or even heal) scars. Just break open a gel cap and spread the oil on the affected area. It aids healing. Really good for sunburn too!
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Vitamin k works great too
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Hi <<<<< AuntyLynn >>>>>,
Pain is minor now , more of an itch as I wait for these skin tags to turn black and fall off.Thank you for asking!!!
I'll have to get some Vit. E next payday. I have to let the skin in the burned-frozen area get really dry. After the tags come off tho' I'd bet the Vit.E would help the areas heal.
We got about 10 of the tags 'freeze-burnt',unfortunately there's around a hundred or so of the ugly little growths just on my neck. It will take awhile to get them all treated.
I have a few in various areas that will prolly need to be injected and sliced off... gonna try a wart remover first. I am not real good at handling pain.
I do wonder if your relative had some sort of anesthetic...if they have a low cost numbing agent,that wouldn't /-hurt/burn/sting worse than the freeze gun to administer I'd sure try it.
We should know in a few minutes if my antibiotic came today too...I'm hopeful...sinus infection isn't gonna go away w/o help.
And I was told that having an antibiotic after this skin-tag procedure may actually help too.
Will watch for inexpensive Vit.E oil caplets, it would be nice to have the soothing comfort and maybe less scarring after these tags die off!
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I wanted to let you know that I have had issues with skin tags over the last 10 years or so. I have had some removed by cutting or had them froze off. Insurance will no longer pay for it and the doctor wants $15 for each one. Mine are not that large, but I did have one large one under my breast removed because it had become a painful nuisance.
They are most definetly caused by high insulin levels. The amount I have developed/grown clearly correlate with my weight and insulin levels (I am insulin resistant). Do you have darkening of the skin behind your neck or armpits? That is also a sign of the insulin as well. I found that freezing them off was not as painful as cutting at the doctor's office. I also tried the Compound W trick and it worked pretty good. Lastly, I feel strongly that Lyme causes many, many issues, but I don't believe this is one of them.
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<<<<< randibear, and tonysgirl >>>>>,
Thanks for the Vit.K tip Randi' !!!
Hi Tonysgirl, My understanding, is PCOS [Stein-Leventhal disease ], often w/ gallbladder issues as I had [gallbladder removal surgery 2004]and the skin tags,is indicative of insulin resistance in general.
I was told that when it goes into full blown diabetes as mine now is,they don't call it insulin resistance anymore. Don't know if I am explaining it properly.
I have some dark spots under my arms, and under breast areas as well.
Because,as it was explained to me : The Spirochetic bacterium Bb[ Lyme disease] competes w/our bodies for the food fuels -glucose- the body is constantly trying to get more fuel so as not to starve.
So I tend to think perhaps it is Lyme disease related...I am still learning, and many things I don't really understand as yet.
My weight is up,and it is a battle to try to keep as healthy as I can w/ Lyme and Co's.And to try to eat right on a very tight budget.
The freeze offs, were painful enough that I cred,and I suspect so would the inject,burn, and slice be painful.
I am hoping to find the 'Compound W' and see if it will help. I am glad to here a good report about it.
Thanks each one who has replied. Parts of the 'freezer-burn' areas are blackening and coming off.
My antibiotics came yesterday,good thing, as my throat has been swollen and sore making swallowing a chore.
I am remaining hopeful that the antibiotic will help ease both the sinus/sore throat issues,the skin tags,and a rash I am fighting.
Jus Silverwolfi here.
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I hope you are feeling better today. I wanted to know that if you do some research on Acanthosis Nigricans, which is the reason for the darkening of the skin or on your skin folds, it will explain that it is caused by the excessive amount of insulin in your system.
In my case, my sugar levels are only slightly elevated, but my insulin levels are thru the roof.
As it was explained to my by 2 of my doctors, the excessive insulin causes the darkening of the skin, the skin tags and excessive hair growth. Since your cells are not receptive to the insulin, it floats in your system and the excess gets absorbed into many body organs including the skin. I don't know if you have all of these issues, but I have all of these issues in different levels. I had actually lost a substantial amount of weight in my battle with Lyme 5 years ago. During this period, most of these symptoms were almost nonexistent. Unfortunately, I put all of my weight back on and more. I never really had the issues with hair growth until then.
I am just giving you my experience to let you know that with me, it wasn't Lyme that caused this. God knows the nightmare of symptoms that Lyme caused for me, but I don't believe this is one of them. It is amazing what your body will do when your metabolic system is not working correctly.
Lastly, good luck with the Compound W. There is actually a coupon for that this week on Coupons.com if you can print it.
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Hi <<<<< tonysgirl >>>>>,
Thanks for the further explanation, and yup,I have more hair than I like ,and the weight issues too.
I never know for sure what is Lyme and Co's and what is other problems. TxCoord is trying to get the Coupons.com up, sometimes Our little 'Puter wont compute very well. So he is searching to see if he can find it.
He finally found The 'Compund W'...so we'll see if we can get it to print here in a bit.! Will see if this will cooperate!
I do hope,that I don't sound like a grumpy bear of a Silverwolfi, the sinus issues and ABX are getting me right now.
Thank You again for the info!!!
Jus' that Silverwolfi here
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! But it hurt my sweetie so much. She was crying, PA was crying (and apologizing for causing the pain) and well I must of had something in my eyes.
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. So we didn't have it done back then...
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