beaches
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Let's remember that Dr. Phil is a "TV doc" whose show is dependent on ratings.
I've always wondered how/why any psychologist worth his salt would need a public venue to dispense advice to his patients. Perhaps money and fame are factors??
Granted, the show's participants are volunteers. Perhaps they have a need to appear on camera to air their issues??
I just don't get it. If you/your family have serious problems why not seek PRIVATE help?
Yeah, droid, I remember that segment he did on Lyme. What a shame that was.
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I just thought it was the brain fog and pain today, but the story got so convoluted that I thought I needed a map to understand it.
The part of me that try to figure things out kept wondering again about who has time to try to do this and how they get so warped as to want to take advantage of people.
The guy with the sleazy website and book almost sounded as if he was beginning to see or hear about people stealing pictures somehow or "catfishing" people to get the pics to post.
I felt like Dr. Phil was trying to get me to get as angry as he was, and I felt more sad and confused than anything. Seemed as is both or all sides had some hidden agendas.
The more people make connections through electronics the more an equal measure of trust and suspicion seem to be warranted; not the most comfortable idea for me to accept.
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lax mom
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If someone's always take, take, taking but never giving any help...then I wonder about that.
Even when I can't hold my head up, I still find a way to get on here and punch some keys.
If I can type enough to ask for help, I can type a few words of encouragement to someone else who needs it while I'm at it.
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I have heard of several similar stories.. There is always some gratification on the part of the instigator whether it be financial or emotional or both.. Deep down its usually a very troubled individual in need of intensive therapy. Something that we shouldnt be providing here.
Like randibear, I assumed this thread must be about actual fish, didn't bother reading it until now. Haha
It's sad that people do things like that.. Pathetic, really. I thought I smelled something fishy a time or two!!
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beaches
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lax mom:
"If someone's always take, take, taking but never giving any help...then I wonder about that.
Even when I can't hold my head up, I still find a way to get on here and punch some keys.
If I can type enough to ask for help, I can type a few words of encouragement to someone else who needs it while I'm at it."
***Very well said lax mom.
lululymemom:
"I have heard of several similar stories.. There is always some gratification on the part of the instigator whether it be financial or emotional or both.. Deep down its usually a very troubled individual in need of intensive therapy. Something that we shouldnt be providing here."
***Ditto, very well said lululymemom.
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Thanks beaches.. And thanks lymetoo for bringing some clarity to my headline.
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- "Catfish" can have various modes of operation and various agendas.
Some may want so much attention.
Some may just want to really mess with us - making us chase answers to their puzzles. They enjoy seeing us all worked up.
[Some "trolls" take that approach, too, making us verifty every single word we post and never happy with any explanations or even willing to go seek out the best professional sources for themselves. They just want to make trouble for us. -- but that is different from a "catfish"]
Some "catfish" may want to gather personal email addresses (for a variety of reasons but fraud is top one). If they also get a private phone number, fraud can be much easier to perpetrate.
Some may be wanting to reel in a physical - really in person - relationship when they find someone in their area -- or who might fly in for them.
They may not at all be the sex, age, or even in the location they say. And, of course, they may not even be ill at all. Or they could be.
There are various motives and various "costumes" a "catfish" may work. It could probably be a whole college pyschiatric course -- or a crime course.
We also have to be concerned when we share detail about LLMDs as that detail could be used for harm. -
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- lax mom writes: "If someone's always take, take, taking but never giving any help...then I wonder about that." (end quote)
Actually, that does not bother me or alert me so much as some just don't have any energy at all for that.
What does bother me, though, is when they post of dire symptoms and no explanations from posters of what's happening - or suggestions as to what can help - are even considered. When they've been give dozens of explanations & suggestions over months and not one - zero - is accepted as a possibilty.
As well, one catastrophe after another, each new one even before the previous one has had time to settle. Creating drama is a hallmark of a "catfish" to reel in folks.
I'm sure there is more detail one could find from a web search for those who teach about this. When searching "catfish" just look for the more profesisonal authors or presenters.
Stopping for a moment, though, while some "catfish" have criminal fraud as their motive, some may not even know what they are doing if they cast their net far & wide & deep for all the sympathy they can get. Maybe they do need that, or it seems so to them right now.
Those with purely psychological motives can be at risk and really do help. And I don't have the energy to figure out how to wrap this up in a thoughtful way. But it's something to think about. -
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- Google: How to spot a "catfish"
There appear to be several good links for how to spot online misrepresentations.
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"Real" drama doesn't bother me nearly as much as "fake" drama.
We all have some drama in us, I think.
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nobody could make up the stuff that goes on in my life!! they wouldn't want to be involved in it...well heck, i don't...
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beaches
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The "real" drama is just what happens to us during the course of our lives.
The "fake" drama perpetuated by others is a whole other issue.
I don't think we have drama in us. I think life/crap just happens to us and we deal with it as best we can.
And we eventually weed out who is real and who isn't.
Randibear, I totally understand. No one could even begin to imagine the stuff that goes on in my life either.
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- The link(s) explain the differences in the kind of (fake) drama and emergencies that "Catfish" bring about - often to get money (or INFORMATION) or to "hook" their prey, grooming them.
It's not at all the same as the real suffering and turmoil caused by illness and all that affects. Just to be clear. It's not like someone espressing emotions as an outlet.
The methods of a "catfish" around drama are taken to a whole different level, although that can be a subtle difference.
It's best explained by the link and the search, though. -
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lax mom
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Bringing this thread back up.
Please everyone remember to be careful about giving specifics about our Drs to folks you don't know.
Remember the NY Dr's especially seem to be under the gun at the moment.
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No, kayak.. I already asked for him!! He reminds me of my border collie.
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laxmom thanks for bringing this back up.. We need to remember that a catfish will try whatever means possible to gain some benefit which on this board could include doctor information.
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