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Thanks Gigi!
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I'm so bummed I missed this! This should have stayed in the one spot everyone sees it: Medical.
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I couldn't get it for some reason. I was interested mainly in listening to the female ND.
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GiGi
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It was fantastic. And whoever did not see it, missed one very important new modality for treatment of chronic problems: Washing the blood and collecting all that is separated out in a sack that if you fed it to a dog it would kill him: it would also kill an elephant.
Look up "apheresis" on the net and then go to www.inus.de and do some translating with one of the translating engines. Maybe someone can set it up here for people who are as illiterate on computers as I am, And I am still looking at the super statistics that were presented at the seminar. I am so excited about apheresis -- I am going into a stress mode! But then I have learned a long time ago that getting excited about anything here on Lymenet eventually shuts me down because I can't stand the commentary any longer.
But look up the link anyway and learn what apheresis does and is. I have the "science" from the seminar, and am still deciphering it. It is very exciting.
Take care.
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Thanks GiGi.
I tried and tried to get the conference but couldn't. I think I got you beat on the computer illiteracy.
Apheresis is a medical procedure that involves removing whole blood from a donor or patient and separating the blood into individual components so that one particular component can be removed.
The remaining blood components then are re-introduced back into the bloodstream of the patient or donor.
Apheresis is used for the collection of donor blood components (such a platelets or plasma) as well as for the treatment for certain medical
conditions in which a part of the blood that contains disease-provoking elements is removed.
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plugged from yesterday's Dr. K. lecture:
Definition of Apheresis
A method, whose therapeutic effect is based on Extracorporal Elimination of *Pathogenic Proteins ( Immune Globulins, etc.) *Protein bound pathogenic or toxic Substances *Pathogenic cells ( microbes, cancer cells )
uses *Adsorption *Praecipitation *Filtration
To remove the plasma, which is reinfused without significant loss of plasma volume. There is no need to infuse additional fluids to substitute losses!
out one arm - filtration - back in the other - all at the same time - takes 3 hours.
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My DH does plasmapheresis once a month, and it helps him a lot with his allergies.
They remove the antibodies and reactive proteins from his blood, and return the red blood cells to him.
A machine does it all automatically through one IV spot in his arm.
Plasmapheresis is also recommended for people with autoimmune diseases such as Lupus.
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So sorry I missed this conference.....we were at a Bar Mitzvah and after-party. When I have time, I think I'll pay the $44 and listen.
When I read the line-up of speakers I was impressed. Then when I read what Dr. K was speaking on, I was like 'wow, this guys just never stops learning....and teaching'.
Thanks for always keeping us in the loop GiGi.
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GiGi
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Razzle, as I suggested in my first post above, to find out the difference of what is available in this country and what is available in Europe as far as apheresis goes, you could either go back to the lectures of the seminar I posted or use a translating engine to get the finer details of http://www.gesundheitspark-cham.de/apherese-und-dialyse the work done in Germany.
I am sure it is the method of fitration that makes the difference.
The work I posted about is done at a Borreliose Center, as indicated. That may tell something.
I am not familiar with the differences between here and there because I have not done it yet. Dr. K. spoke about it for quite some time at the seminar that was open and I think is still open to anyone for a resonable amount. Maybe some people can share in the cost of $44. I spent all day yesterday listening to all the speakers.
There is an interview of a Lyme patient with the doctors of the clinic if you understand German or know someone who can help. The patient was om pretty sad shape and wheelchair, but is doing well now.
Sorry I can't tell you more - All I know is that my doctor is really excited about it and has researched and done it himself. He tells a lot more at the seminar than I can tell you here.
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Washing the blood
you know-i knew a woman who was sick with many lyme sx...it was awhile ago and she wasnt formally dx...but she had a huge tumor removed and required a very large amount of new blood.
she recuperated really well and was very healthy after...
so they may be on to something
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beaches
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I'm just wondering what the difference is between apheresis and plasmapheresis.
Plasmapheresis has been around for many, many years but I don't think it ever really took off as a treatment for autoimmune disease.
Another treatment I've heard about recently is "UV Blood Irradiation." I don't know anything about it other than obviously UV light is used at some point.
I think these treatments are extremely interesting. Perhaps they hold the key.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we didn't have to worry about which microbes/parasites, etc. to try to get rid of?
Wouldn't it just be awesome if some treatment could just zap the buggers?
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