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I read the alcohol is not good for people with Lyme.... Does anyone have an occasional glass of wine or beer?
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- Not wise, sorry. After you've reached a good solid remission for a few months, maybe then. Right now, even one glass can set you back, oh, days, a month, longer? Why risk it.
It's not like lyme or your liver can just say, oh, we'll close our eyes to it. It matters always.
Besides, likely, it would cause vertigo, balance issues, stomach upset and literal tissue eruption, interfere with Rx and bloom candida . . . and make you feel awful the next couple days. But the stress on liver could be more profound.
What you seek from that though may be found in other ways, other taste with good beverages [Elderberry extract in fizzy water -- but not too much fizz, it can irritate stomach lining]
and relaxing herbs, music, foot rubs, say? Other ways to nurture yourself. Take care. Always. -
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- If you seek relaxation, Scullcap tincture is very relaxing and a nice "ahhhh" effect. -
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That was one of my first signs that something was amiss, when I turned white from drinking some wine. Rather scary, actually. So some of us literally can't have any alcohol.
Don't know what percentage of us that is, whether there are Lyme patients who can tolerate alcohol?
i think it's a liver detox issue.
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I have a glass or two about once a month and that is it. It doesn't seem to bother me, but I won't chance having any more than that.
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I go in spurts. right now I am struggling with the reason NOT to drink.
but there have been times when I didn't drink for a year or more and never wanted a sip.
I think the tick disease is making want to drink right now. I don't know why or how, but it is like an addiction all of a sudden that I have to tell myself not to do!
before I just didn't even thnk of it at all! isn't this crazy>???? what the heck is going on????
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I used to not be able to tolerate any wine at all. Now I am able to have it. Not sure why.
I stick with red and only have a little.
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- Lisa,
[questions are a thought process, no need to really answer.]
As you say that you are "struggling with the reason NOT to drink." (end quote)
Might a good reason be that you want to achieve a good state of well being (that is still a ways away)?
How about looking at it from a different angle? You say that you "think the tick disease is making want to drink right now."
Actually, no stressor makes anyone specifically want alcohol. What it does is make them want the EFFECTS and maybe the taste - or a good taste and silky or fizzy texture, temperature, etc.
What if you could get the EFFECTS in another way? Or various other ways?
What if the symptoms that often are associated with a stressor making someone want [anything] could be prevented in the first place from screaming at them to act impulsively.
There are other ways to lessen uncomfortable, stressful (or even painful) symptoms -- or even to allow a desire to gain pleasure. A pleasure ride is good if the vehicle is safe, of course.
There are various ways plan the drive, though.
A LL ND would be excellent for suggestions to help identify what a person's techniques might be.
In the case of a body's actual call to the alcohol, itself, a LL ND or LL acupuncturist would also be able to address the biochemical, physiological and neurological elements to that. -
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keebler , I so wish I could always do the right thing about a dr. you always make it sound so good (and easy ) to get a LL something. there are none near me. I have tried pretty hard. well, there is one, but she is complicated because she is out of network now and $$ is upfront and pricey for me (she knows I have no money) and she makes you attend a group type of pre-apt. briefing or something which is only once a month, so if you miss it you have to wait an entire month! or sometimes she cancels it herself!
I know why she does this. to make sure people know she is an alternative dr....
I really have no money to go around trying our different docs any more. and I am running out of my pills. I already cut back and I can feel the anxiety increasing and the pain is 24/7 dibilitating in some way.
today was an expecialy bad day. but today I don't feel 'called' to even smell alcohol. it is strange. like my hormones- one day you need potato chips like your life depends on it , and 2 days later you loath them! haha. it is like that with me and a glass of wine.
not sure. when I was pregnant I craved red wine sometimes and my friend would say to drink grape juice because I needed something in the grapes. maybe , I thought, this was something like that?
thanks keebler, for the kind thoughts. I appreciate that
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I think the tick disease is making want to drink right now. I don't know why or how, but it is like an addiction all of a sudden that I have to tell myself not to do!
before I just didn't even thnk of it at all! isn't this crazy>???? what the heck is going on????
- In my opinion, it is not the Lyme disease talking, it's the CANDIDA/YEAST talking.
It screams loud and clear when it is hungry for more sugar!
I read an article not long ago linking alcoholism with candida/yeast. Makes perfect sense to me.
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What type of reaction does one with Lyme have after drinking alcohol?
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- Danger for walking & driving or holding small children because it can affect balance and muscle control so much faster for someone with borreliosis.
For many, even by the 2nd sip, pretty much like Kryptonite (is to Superman) - for days later, too (but it can damage liver & brain cells in someone with a toxic illness and taking Rx on top of that - and that can have long term effects).
Regardless of the degree of "hit" someone might take, some things may not be overly obvious but still undermine treatment success, it's not something to risk for any reason.
Topic: Beer, Wine, ect... -
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- Remember any suggestions, advice, directives are not intended to make anyone's life any more rough & tumble than it already is at any of the stressful points of time one might want to imbibe.
It's about safety in the moment, of course, especially with balance, motor coordination, stomach lining, etc. -
- but always being mindful that there are few slip ups that don't cause damage when we are so very compromised and require so very dearly as many elements as possible for health and wellness to supply our building blocks for cellular recovery.
There are many other ways (besides alcohol) to get through a tough time or to celebrate and just zone out -- and numerous enjoyable & safe ways to nourish and nurture. -
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quote:Originally posted by bis: What type of reaction does one with Lyme have after drinking alcohol?
I can try to answer that Bis:
I can get very angry and irate. I get hypoglycemic (the angry/irate comes from something other than hypoglycemia though). I feel really sick to my stomach and not right in the head. It disturbs my sleep. And it just doesn't taste good or smell good right now. The only thing I can really tolerate is white wine in very small amounts, but I'd rather not have any alcohol.
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ftinesskelly, that sounds horrible!
I don't get that. I get drunk fast, like keebler says, but not all the time! one time I had like 7 shots of tequilla and didn't feel a thing!
for me there is no rhyme or reason to it most of the time. but like , right now, if you put a glass of any booze in front of me I will NOT want even a sip!
bis, mostly, for me- I used to drink all the time as a younger person, up until late 20 and I stopped because I had babies for a few years in a row and I breast fed them. when I was around 23, 24 or so, I started getting really sick the morning after I drank. terrible pain under my ribs at the bottom, and it was probably liver or gallbladder I thought then. now , I think it was possibly my undiagnosed tick disease getting worse. this is really when a lot of my overall sx started.
after I had my last kid I noticed a huge increase in sx (still undiagnosed) and when my youngest was 3 and I stopped breastfeeding him I tried some drinking again, but even though it was not very often I could tell it made me sick- upset stomach right away, drunk right away , and around this time I also noticed that when I went to the amusement park I couldn't ride any rides that had any kind of spin whatsoever any more.
alcohol, before any tx also made me feel this spinny way, and it also made me say funny things like the wrong word in a sentence. people used to laugh at me and then I would know I said something strange.
I am going on , like usual- sorry!
for me now , alcohol makes me feel 'car sick' forgetful, tired or sometimes revved up!, nauseous, and sometimes a headache. but these sx all vary depending on the day. some days one sip can make me really sick , and other days 2 glasses of wine makes me feel nothing.
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lymetoo , maybe you are right about the candida, but this is what I noticed now that I have thougth about it...
I had genetic testing and am seeing a specialist and have been on supplements for a little while . many of my sx went away with those meds. the meds were only the starting doses and for only a few issues as my DNA is really messed up and you must take it slow.
I didn't notice too much improvement, BUT..... now that I ran out of money and I stopped taking them..... I *really* notice a difference! and so many sx are rigth back now and really bothering me all at once. not good.
but, one thing I noticed is that since I stopped the meds my craving for alcohol is gone. so, maybe that change in my meds for the genes was causing some thing in me to crave the alcohol?? like i guess it could have been a yeast growth or something changing in me that wasn't there before I was getting gene 'fixed'?
I have an apt. on monday and I am going to ask the dr about this.
it could also have been that full moon we just had too. I notice my sx get way worse leading up to a full moon and so did my cravings for alcohol.
who knows. I am just so tired of all of this. really tired.
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lyme too, I asked the genetic dr and he says I am craving alcohol because I don't produce any gaba on my own so my body is trying to get the gaba.
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