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Mo
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Leaking the name of a CIA agent in spite is a huge threat National Security, as all her operations and relationships were then blown..
on top of it, if he lied to a Grand Jury, that's a felony.

An overwhelming number of Americans expect Bush to be true to his word regarding anyone leaking security matters.

So far, he is not even acknowledging this!


Mo



Rove, Libby Accounts on Plame Differ With Reporters' (Update2)

July 22 (Bloomberg) -- Two top White House aides have given accounts to a special prosecutor about how reporters first told them the identity of a CIA agent that are at odds with what the reporters have said, according to people familiar with the case.

Lewis ``Scooter'' Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, told special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald that he first learned from NBC News reporter Tim Russert of the identity of Central Intelligence Agency operative Valerie Plame, the wife of former ambassador and Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson, one person said. Russert has testified before Fitzgerald that he didn't tell Libby of Plame's identity, the person said.

White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove told Fitzgerald that he first learned the identity of the CIA agent from syndicated columnist Robert Novak, according to a person familiar with the matter. Novak, who was first to report Plame's name and connection to Wilson, has given a somewhat different version to the special prosecutor, the person said.

These discrepancies may be important because Fitzgerald is investigating whether Libby, Rove or other administration officials made false statements during the course of the investigation. The Plame case has its genesis in whether anyone violated a 1982 law making it illegal to knowingly reveal the name of a covert intelligence agent.

`Twisted' Intelligence

The CIA requested the inquiry after Novak reported in a July 14, 2003, column that Plame recommended her husband for a 2002 mission to check into reports Iraq tried to buy uranium from Niger. Wilson, in a July 6, 2003, article in the New York Times, had said President George W. Bush's administration ``twisted'' some of the intelligence on Iraq's weapons to justify the war.

Robert Luskin, Rove's attorney, said yesterday that Rove told the grand jury ``he had not heard her name before he heard it from Bob Novak.'' He declined in an interview to comment on whether Novak's account of their conversation differed from Rove's.

There also is a discrepancy between accounts given by Rove and Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper. The White House aide mentioned Wilson's wife -- though not by name -- in a July 11, 2003, conversation with Cooper, the reporter said. Rove, 55, says that Cooper called him to talk about welfare reform and the Wilson connection was mentioned later, in passing.

Cooper wrote in Time magazine last week that he told the grand jury he never discussed welfare reform with Rove in that call.

Miller in Jail

One reporter, Judith Miller of the New York Times, has been jailed on contempt of court charges for refusing to testify before the grand jury about her reporting on the Plame case.

Cooper testified only after Time Inc. said it would comply with Fitzgerald's demands for Cooper's notes and reporting on the Plame matter, particularly regarding his dealings with Rove.

Libby, 54, didn't return a phone call seeking comment.]

The varying accounts of conversations between Rove, Libby and reporters come as new details emerge about a classified State Department memorandum that's also at the center of Fitzgerald's probe.

A memo by the department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research included Plame's name in a paragraph marked ``(S)'' for ``Secret,'' a designation that indicated to anyone who read it that the information was classified, the Washington Post reported yesterday.

State Department Memo

The memo, prepared July 7, 2003, for Secretary of State Colin Powell, is a focus of Fitzgerald's interest, according to individuals who have testified before the grand jury and attorneys familiar with the case.

The three-page document said that Wilson had been recommended for a CIA-sponsored trip to Africa by his wife, who worked on the CIA's counter-proliferations desk.

Bush had said in his State of the Union message in January 2003 that Iraq was trying to purchase nuclear materials in Africa. Wilson said in his article that there was no basis to conclude that was the case and the administration had exaggerated the evidence.

At the time that Rove and Libby were talking with reporters, the two aides also were working together to determine whether Bush's allegation was correct, the New York Times reported today, citing people who have been briefed on the case. Days after Wilson's article appeared, the White House acknowledged that the assertion shouldn't have been included in Bush's speech.

Africa Trip

The memo summarizing the Plame-Wilson connection was provided to Powell as he left with Bush on a five-day trip to Africa. Fitzgerald is exploring whether other White House officials on the trip may have gained access to the memo and shared its contents with officials back in Washington. Rove and Libby didn't accompany Bush to Africa.

One key to the inquiry is when White House aides knew of Wilson's connection to Plame and whether they learned about it through this memo or other classified information.

Senator Charles Schumer of New York, speaking today at a meeting of House and Senate Democrats, said security clearances for Rove and Libby should be suspended and Bush should fire anyone involved in the leak.

Some Bush allies hope that the Fitzgerald investigation, which dominated the news in Washington for the first part of July, will subside as attention shifts to Bush's nomination of Judge John Roberts to fill the first vacancy on the Supreme Court in 11 years.

Fitzgerald's term of service lasts until October, which is also the length of time remaining for the grand jury hearing evidence in the case.


Last Updated: July 22, 2005 12:15 EDT

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Top secret operative, my butt. She had a desk job at Langley and hasn't been out of the country in over 5 years doing any undercover work. She had her husband hired so he could do a hack job on Bush, and when he went over there he lied to the press and said Cheney sent him. Of course that's big lie and apparently she was too arrogent to think the press would never find out that she had him hired into the CIA. Wilson was a Kerry campaign operative, and this whole thing was an election hack job on Bush..... and they got caught. End of story.

Of course Mo will cite her extrememist left wings sources as fact or take regular reports and spin them to no end. LOL, some things never change. You can't even get the rules on Lymenet straight....how could you possibly see this one for what it is?

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Wow!

You've got this situation all wrapped up and figured out..
you better let them know they can stop the investigation.

I've been reading the fast and furious justifications, and they seem to get bigger and more convoluted as more of this type of thing is exposed involving our 'administrators'..

Can anyone imagine (all) these things being accepted if committed by another administration?


..but no matter how anyone tries and downplay (or completely change the circumstances) of this situation..
the fact remains that someone in Rove's position exposing the identity of a CIA agent is something that should NEVER happen.

That in addition to all the business coming out in mass media around this incident.
This is from Bloomberg..

(though the media has died down some on Rove since the Big House stuck the
neo-conservative Supteme Court Justice nominee front and center on an attempt to squash the Rove story)

Another debacle.

Mo


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Yeah I do have it all figured out just like most of the press.....and that's why it's dying down. Try this: the left wing media tried their best to take Rove out but couldn't, now they've given up. That's what's going on. Certainly the nomination helps, and that's just good politics from Bush a company. You have to play the game along with the press because if you don't it's pretty darn unfair. If their were more to this story, it would still be hot. Their was a void in the new cycle and they kept filling it with re-hashes of Rove with nothing new to report. It was a skipping record.

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well, what else are you expected to do with a dirty diaper? ,gary

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oh yeah,what is with this"scooter"? a sixty year old? scooter? must be happy time in playland.is he potty trained?

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Gosh how funny. I haven't been here is six months and nothing has changed!!! Mo, I miss you. But if I come back here, I will get all wrapped up in it and never leave again.
I just can't believe this is the first post i opened with you and 24 going at it again. left vs the right! HAHAHAHA
Hi Gary!

Lisa

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GW said he would get rid of anyone who was involved in the leak...then he found out it was Rove...so he flipflopped/lied/sang another song...whatever....and will now only get rid of the leaker if he committed a crime. Makes me feel ill.

But then this whole administration is riddled with lies & deception & propaganda. They use personal attacks as a means of changing the topic every time someone gets too close to the bone (Rove's tactics against Kerry, McCain, Wilson etc etc...it is so evil)

They try to make people think they are somehow aligned with God. (Rove's tactics/advice again) God has never been political to my knowledge although every culture through time has called upon their gods & god and aligned themselves with rightousness in order to sanctify killing and grab power, oil, whatever. Over & over this is the human way but we can't afford it anymore.

This administration has deceived us & the legislature about the "war". They have killed needlessly and wantonly. Our children and their children. True wars against terrorists are not wars of bombs & armies, but wars of intelligence and narrow precise excisions.

Now they just voted to protect the arms industry in a special way that no other industry has. That way more arms can be sold to more little Osamas and keep the world in turmoil.

Somehow the new moral right sounds just like the old political wrong to me.

Maybe we should vote out ALL the old politicos out and go Green. Get someone who leads us against global warming and fights the fight against the quick profit of corporate empire that destroys our future for the sake of a dime today. Get someone to build our infrastructure & create new jobs. Get someone who talks of inclusion not exclusion.

Quest


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