posted
Recently, in this Off Topic forum, some Topics have been discussed which to some users evoke controversy and disagreement. There is no issue with this type of discussion and disagreement with another users views, beliefs or opinions is not a problem ... that's life in the Big City!
The problem is one user attacking another because that user fails to agree or have the same views, beliefs or opinions.
Insulting another user or calling them an idiot or telling them to go to hell is a problem, therefore I'm asking everyone to tone it down. If you are responding to another user, review what you typed BEFORE you click on "Add Reply".
OK?
-------------------- Lou B Posts: 2200 | From Mount Hope, New Jersey, USA | Registered: Oct 2000
| IP: Logged |
I have to back Kara on this.. how much of the more covert personal attacks...the constant ones from just a couple of users..(I'm not talking about disagreements on topic.)are the rest of us supposed to take (consistant abuse) and not fight back in defence? I respect scroll on by -- but that is not an appropriate answer when some of us are constantly targeted personally by individuals.
Seems the systematic 'under the radar' harassment by certain posters is the core issue here.
It shouldn't be allowed -- IMO.
This also keeps users from participating in OT discussions for fear of attack (or just being turned off by it), as has been stated here by several posters.
Mo
Posts: 8337 | From the other shore | Registered: Jul 2002
| IP: Logged |
posted
For the past 2 months, there have been absolutely NO "posts reported" to anyone on the LymeNet Moderator team. Last night there were problems reported, we have reviewed and taken appropriate action.
Mo, Kara, all users ... It is very easy to report an objectionable posts by simply clicking on "Report Post", which is at the bottom of every post.
The LymeNet Flash Moderator team can not read and review every single post ... it's simply not possible, therefore we rely on the users to report any post they feel is objectionable. As I stated, for the past 2 months, no objectionable posts have been reported.
Here are a couple of excerpts from the LymeNet Terms of Use: 3. Considering the real-time nature of this bulletin board, it is impossible for LymeNet to review messages or confirm the validity of information posted. Please remember that we are not responsible for any messages posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of LymeNet or any entity associated with LymeNet. Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately by email. We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary. This is a manual process, however, so please realize that we may not be able to remove or edit particular messages immediately.
4. Users shall not post or transmit through the LymeNet System any material which violates or infringes in any way upon the rights of others, which is unlawful, threatening, abusive, hateful, harassing, knowingly false, defamatory, sexual oriented, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, vulgar, obscene, profane, or otherwise objectionable, which encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability or otherwise violate any law, or which, without LymeNet's express prior approval, contains advertising or any solicitation with respect to products or services. Any conduct by a user that in LymeNet's discretion restricts or inhibits any other user from using or enjoying the LymeNet System Interactive will not be permitted. Users shall not use the LymeNet System to advertise or perform any commercial solicitation.
Bottom line; if a user reports an objectionable posts we will review and take appropriate action.
-------------------- Lou B Posts: 2200 | From Mount Hope, New Jersey, USA | Registered: Oct 2000
| IP: Logged |
posted
It really comes down to semantics for some. One person may be very sensitive and define "attack" in one way, and another person another way. It also has a lot to do with subjectivity. What one would normally consider an attack by sometime they don't like or disagree with, is acceptable if the same thing is said by someone they like or agree with. I see this happen all the time. I think the line is drawn and it's clear to see if you've been here for a while. I've crossed it myself a couple of times, but I know where it is now. I don't necessarily agree with exactly where the line is drawn, but it's not my BBS.
Posts: 600 | From Las Vegas, NV | Registered: Nov 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
Personal attack against users is quite clearly differentiated from posting on topic and has nothing to do with 'semantics'. There is no grey area..
It's simple.
Mo
Posts: 8337 | From the other shore | Registered: Jul 2002
| IP: Logged |
posted
So you're saying that your definition of 'attack' is the final word, and that no one else can define it differently in their own mind? I think it's pretty clear that not everybody thinks and defines things the same. However, what matters on this board is how Lou defines it....not me, you, or anyone else.
Posts: 600 | From Las Vegas, NV | Registered: Nov 2004
| IP: Logged |
lymebrat
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 3208
posted
Hey Guys,
It's been a long time since I have been on off topic. I stopped playing in this sandbox, when the kids starting throwing sand..lol
Actually, I stopped coming around because my views and opinions weren't very popular with a few posters and every time I disagreed with them, I was told I was attacking them...
Which was so far from the truth it wasn't even funny. Do I disagree with peoples views and opinions? ABSOLUTELY. But I never attacked anyone, though I can't say the same for some of the folks disagreeing with my views and opinions.
I had my choice to homeschool my children come under fire, my faith was questioned, my values and morals were even questioned because I disagreed with a poster and sadly, even my children were brought into the crossfire with posters on this board...
Posters who are still here today.
So while it is sad that some posters continue to hound others, this certainly isn't anything NEW to off topic.
It's been going on for years...long before some of the posters in question, were even posting on this board.
Oh well, I guess some things will never change.
I hope to stop by from time to time as I love a good debate. And I'm not getting much sleep lately, as my 7 year old daughter was diagnosed with type 1 juvenile diabetes 5 months ago and I have to check her several times throughout the night, so I have alot of time on my hands...
Best wishes, ~LymeBrat
[ 03. November 2005, 07:38 PM: Message edited by: lymebrat ]
Posts: 3154 | From NH , USA | Registered: Oct 2002
| IP: Logged |
I hope all is faring well with your family, I'll have to check over on Medical and see if there's an update.
I'm kinda scratching my head as to why you have dredged up and posted a bunch of threads from a year ago, at which time there was less than optimal user respect from many posters, as well as much less effective moderation..
I have to say that both of these things have improved allot around here (thanks to Lou's return) ..
Bringing up all those old posts really only serves to stir up trouble.. IMO, it's better to move in positive directions.
I never saw what you desribe and I'm very sorry if all those things happened to you.. By and large things are pretty OK here, (tho there have been a couple of exceptions ) ..
However as far as last year goes..I do remember one of the instances that you mention coming up from a 'troll' on the board. (There were a few of them back then..)
Like I said...it's pretty clear when a post is on topic, or on an individual... whether blatant or less obvious, it's usually pretty clear.
We've had a couple of problems of late with users being personally degrading over time, but hopefully they are under control.
But, respectfully, I think it is difficult to really comment accurately on what's going on here (and what the more recent problems were) without having been here for a while.
Best,
Mo
[ 04. November 2005, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: Mo ]
Posts: 8337 | From the other shore | Registered: Jul 2002
| IP: Logged |
lymie tony z
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 5130
posted
Lymebrat,
I read some of the old posts....
Your recent post is accurate...SSDD......
-------------------- I am not a doctor...opinions expressed are from personal experiences only and should never be viewed as coming from a healthcare provider. zman Posts: 2527 | From safety harbor florida(origin Cleve., Ohio | Registered: Jan 2004
| IP: Logged |
lymebrat
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 3208
posted
Hi Mo,
Good to see you again as well.
Things have been better, just when I think things can't get any worse they do...
I think you know that my daughter was diagnosed with Juvenile Diabetes in May ( age 6) and it's been a very hard time for her and our family trying to cope with this illness.
Her blood sugar should be 80 -120 and it goes from 600- 40 in a day, so you never know how much insulin to give her and she can go into a comma and die due to, too high or too low blood sugars.
Very scary!
Plus another danger of Diabetes, is keytones, were your body starts to burn fat instead of sugar for energy..very dangerous and she has dealt with this 3 times in the past month.
Lyme was a piece of cake for her compared to this
As for bringing up the old posts, I explained why I did this when I brought them to the top, maybe you didn't see what I wrote?
But I don't mind repeating why I brought them up. Several of my friends and a couple people I just met, were talking about these threads ....
So I brought them to the top for them to read. It's as simple as that.
No evil plot... or stirring up trouble as you suggested..why would you think that?
Sorry if it upset you, it wasn't my intent.
I hope things are going well for you and your family
See ya around!
~LymeBrat
Posts: 3154 | From NH , USA | Registered: Oct 2002
| IP: Logged |
lymebrat
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 3208
posted
Hi Tony,
Yup, it was the that had me leave for a while, but I'm backkkkkkk
~LymeBrat
Posts: 3154 | From NH , USA | Registered: Oct 2002
| IP: Logged |
lymie tony z
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 5130
posted
Hiya Brat, Glad you're here... Nice to have someone here that has a reasonably inteligent OPEN mind...
willing to bare all for what she believes in!!
IT was a joke...hope you're not offended....
I've been to Sturgis myself and I'm old but I still have my bike endorsement on my liscense....
ROCK ON BRAT........zman
-------------------- I am not a doctor...opinions expressed are from personal experiences only and should never be viewed as coming from a healthcare provider. zman Posts: 2527 | From safety harbor florida(origin Cleve., Ohio | Registered: Jan 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
Sorry to hear about Mikayla's cointinued struggles with highs and lows. I know you were having a very hard time with that while back.
These poor kids.. I wish I could take it all for them, it's very hard to manage chronic illness in a child, but I'm sure you are doing great in that regard.
Re: bringing up all the old threads to the top.. I just couldn't figure out why you would do that is all.
There seems to always be a few folks here who like to fan the flames of division, create 'sides' among posters -- and that kind of stuff (the old posts) fuels the fire, it seems.
Best, Mo
Posts: 8337 | From the other shore | Registered: Jul 2002
| IP: Logged |
The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:
The
Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey 907 Pebble Creek Court,
Pennington,
NJ08534USA http://www.lymenet.org/
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
![[Wink]](wink.gif)
I stopped playing in this sandbox, when the kids starting throwing sand..lol ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
![[dizzy]](graemlins/dizzy.gif)
) ..![[bonk]](graemlins/bonk.gif)
![[Frown]](frown.gif)
![[Smile]](smile.gif)
![[confused]](graemlins/confused.gif)
![[hi]](graemlins/hi.gif)
![[lol]](graemlins/lol.gif)
Printer-friendly view of this topic