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Please let her back! I'm lost in words and thoughts.
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Sarah gave this board hope!!! Please bring Sarah back, we miss her!! Posts: 1603 | From ny | Registered: Aug 2006
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quote:I suspect an IDSA backed and/or personality disordered troll is behind this
I agree!
Divide and conquer!!!
We are smarter than this people Lyme or no Lyme!! Posts: 3905 | From USA | Registered: May 2007
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I was banned last night. It was horrible. I came on to post and was posting and went from one post to another and then it said, "Your posting ability has been revoked" in little black letters and wouldn't let me do ANYTHING, not even read stuff. And I had no letter in my ebox and was very upset. I am surprised at how upset I was actually. It really HURT. A lot. Way more than I had htought it could or would.
This morning I got a really nice note from Lou B that Jenifer had banned me while investigating something and then had re-instated me.
I am more relieved than you know or could ever guess. I was up most of the night and cried a bunch, while I had thought that, "Heck, if I got banned it wouldn't get to me."
Instead, I found that it really, really matters even more than I thought it did for me. You guys really really matter. This place really, really matters.
Thank you so much you guys, I didn't know this thread existed until right now when I just read it and you guys were so nice.
As of this morning I am UN-banned. I am so grateful. It was horrible. Thank you!!
I think Lou B is wonderful and I think our moderators do the best they can with a board that is gosh-darned difficult. I know I wouldn't want to moderate it- and I am grateful for them both, very much so.
I am SO grateful to be here you don't even know, in fact, I am crying AGAIN!!! But from gratitude- Very Sincerely, Sarah
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Lyme Enigma is NOT for alternavistas, its a healthy debate on Lyme and related issues (like thyroid, etc) in a mature way that doesn't endorse ANY particular method of treatment. Its friendly and laid back. BUT, with a scientifical/medical bent.
Sarah is a member of both BUT posts mostly at Europe. Cave as well.
I came here JUST to post this because I'm not really interested in the drama here and rarely ever come even look.
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YAY YAY YAY!!!!!!!~~~!!@~!~!
I am so glad you are here!!
Welcome back!!!
Thanks to the moderators!! Posts: 3905 | From USA | Registered: May 2007
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quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: SARAH IS BACK!!!!!
Best news I have heard all day! Sarah, you are a treasure for lymenet.
I am still going to visit that other great forum on the other side of the virtual Atlantic.
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I hopped over to the over forum last night too--just in case that was the only place to 'see' my favorite people.
I'm simply thrilled that you, Sarah, are still here!!!and many others as well!!! Posts: 136 | From North Carolina | Registered: Apr 2007
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AliG
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copied from general support:
(((SARAH!!!!))) *)!)*)!*)!)!!!
I can't possibly tell you how happy I am to see you back here right now!!!!!!!
(I'm sobbing hysterically!)
I knew if I believed hard enough, things would start falling back into place.
I hope the rest falls back in too!
Ali
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Forum: A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
"Open discussion" are the key words here!
I have so appreciated Lymenet over the years. There's info here I could get nowhere else and what better than someone's personal experience or dedicated research to help a fellow sufferer learn.
I've not agreed with every poster but that's ok the info might be helpful for someone else. But the ones banned have been especially knowledgeable and so kind to share what they know.
Why can't everyone just read and decide for themselves what they feel will help them?
I could understand if someone was habitually mean and nasty and really far out there with ideas, but I personally have never noticed this. And there is the opportunitiy for someone to come along and disagree so another side is give.
Who "owns" Lymenet anyway? I guess I don't understand this power to ban.
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GOD BLESS YOU LOU BACHMAN FOR REINSTATING SARAH!
now we have another reason to be THANKFUL for THANKSGIVING DAY!
sarah, i sent you a PM and yours was the 1st email i read today! YIPPEE!!
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You are an inspiration! You give and give and give. Thank you, Sarah.
You weren't even given any warning. That's sick. What was done to you, even for a little while, and what was done to all of us, is wrong.
But I'll tell you something. I can't forget the power trip that's going on here. Since any member can be banned at any time with no warning, I don't think there is much of a future for Lymenet.
Control, control, control.
I cannot accept what was done to you, Sarah, even when it was done to you for a little while--and to all of us. IT'S MEAN.
Am I next, for practicing free speech?
I have to approach this board from now on, from the point of view that this board is not in keeping with the spirit of the Constitution and my days here are numbered.
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Hurray!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so glad to see you reinstated!!!
But I think I will be checking out other sites as well. With all of this drama constantly goingon, how can anyone get the help they need?
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djf2005
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I THINK THE QUESTION THAT MATTERS THE MOST STILL REMAINS UNANSWERED.
WHY WERE U BANNED SARAH?
WHY ARE THE MODS JUST BANNING PEOPLE AS THEY WISH W/O PRIOR WARNING OT NOTICE?
THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE IMHO
HUMBLY
derek
-------------------- "Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens to you."
Sarah was NOT banned. Her ability to post was "temporarily" blocked while one of our Moderators investigated an incident.
I informed Sarah that we were working on it in an email to her last night @ 10.52PM and sent another email last night @ 11:51PM stating her posting ability had been re-enabled.
In my view this Topic and others talking about who got banned, who didn't get banned and demanding that we @ LymeNet explain, in detail, everything we do is inappropriate!
Some of you LymeNet Users are simply OUT-OF-CONTROL!!! Can't we simply work together without fighting?
Please, have a Happy Thanksgiving and peace to all of you,
[ 21. November 2007, 09:28 PM: Message edited by: Lou B ]
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daise
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Lou,
No, banning people in such a way as this is not the way to go--even temporarily. It is mean and it is wrong.
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Lou, how this is all being handled is upsetting people, even to the point people are going to other boards or investigating them. It makes people feel very insecure, as in who's next to go without reasons given or understanding.
Maybe it would be a good idea not to block people here while you are investigating something. And to have a communication with the people involved and work out the issues with them. Apparently, Sarah didn't get the email messages about what was going on, and then all of us got upset.
If there is further need to post clear rules for board use, fine. Maybe to put it at the top of the posting sections so people can know what's expected of them.
Also, I would like to see Jimbob reinstated. He has been a longtime member, is very informative about the herbs, and deserves to be here to give and receive support.
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Lou, thank you for posting.
However, what Sarah got, while she was -- as ALWAYS -- answering someone's post, was:
"Your ability to post has been revoked."
Now, that would lead a reasonable person to believe they have been banned.
While I realize this is your forum, the truth is that there soon will be no forum without longtime members like the ones who've been banned lately.
Cave is chief among those who have been exiled, and is far from forgotten.
The very existence of LymeNet depends on people like them.
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AliG
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Apparently the problem that Sarah had been having, in receiving the e-mails from Lymenet, must not have been resolved.
Sarah was given an explanation for the temporary block, she just must not have received it.
Daise,
I realize you're upset, everyone has been. You're entitled to your opinion and so am I.
I believe you're basing your opinion on what you've seen in one (or possibly a few?) month's time and your perspective may be different than mine.
It is my opinion that your comments to Lou are a bit out of line. LouB has been a kind-hearted, fair, caring, dedicated moderator. Jen has been too (only within her part-time ability).
There was a communication problem between the moderators & Sarah. Lou notified her what was going on, she just didn't get the e-mail. What was wrong with that? He was even nice enough to explain that to everyone, when it really had nothing to do with us.
I think there are many who've been here for a long time that would feel the same way, if they step back and look at the bigger picture of what has been occuring here.
We've had a little (OK big) crisis on the board and it is in the process of being resolved.
I really can't stand to see people relating to each other antagonistically. It's just hurtful.
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Michelle-
Sarah was having problems before getting her e-mails from Lymenet. I remember her & Jennifer having a big hullabaloo about it on the board.
Lou said he sent her two e-mails & she was only blocked for an hour.
I think this has all been a big, blown out of proportion, misunderstanding again.
Isn't that possible? Or am I the only one who sees it this way?
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My dear AliG,
I SO appreciate what a peacemaker you are. I really do. I really WISH I could say I saw it that way.
Instead, what I see are people leaving in droves.
What I see are a handful of people controlling this forum.
I still find the banning of Cave absolutely beyond belief and insupportable.
I am sorry, but I find moderators too quick to judgment and there is little doubt in my own mind which squeaky wheels are pushing their buttons -- probably incessantly. I am sure it is tiresome for them to deal with.
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AliG
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Michelle,
I do see some of the same things you see, but I want this all to go away!
I want the hurt feelings, anger, bitterness, sensitivity, negativity, combativeness and general unkindness to GO AWAY!!!!!
I want all the people I've grown to care so much about (INCLUDING CAVE!!!!) to come back. While there are still many supportive people here, I REALLY miss the many who are gone.
I'm trying to understand what happened here as best I can and I want to find a way to make it better.
I just don't know how to fix it.
I do know it's not going to get better unless people start finding it in their hearts to forgive each other and start trying to look for the good in each other instead of waiting to pounce on each other.
The moderators are a very important part of this support network and I think if they were cut a little slack early on, it wouldn't have gotten to this point.
I suspect that "not seeing the forest for the trees" may have led to issues between Jennifer & Cave and things escalated out of control. This is purely my speculation through my own observations.
If that IS the case, I'm hoping that Lou may be able to intervene and smooth things over. I feel that Cave was a very, very important resource here, at least she was to me.
I don't see that happening if things don't cool off at all and people remain ready to jump down each other's throats.
I am trying my hardest to make peace among us because I really don't feel that I can take much more upset and I very selfishly want ALL my resources for support back!
I just don't know what else to do.
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djf2005
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Lou-
be forewarned.
your attitude of entitlement to some sort of respect that all lyme netters owe you or anyone else for that matter is ludicrious.
what is even more ridiculous, is that you, the mod, doesnt need to provide the gen pop with an explanation as to why you just cut people off?
it is unacceptable, and, very discouraging to know this is how people are dealt with and or viewed on this site.
are you now going to ban me for voicing my opinion?
i mean seriously, where do we draw the line?
if it simply is a lack of staff or a lack of "mods" or the "heavenly beings" then maybe consider getting additional help so that issues can be resolved in a more rational manner.
i am sure there are many lymies who would love a chance to help this site.
at least i know there used to be....
humbly,
derek
-------------------- "Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens to you."
I totally agree with you. We understand that the USERS make the LymeNet Flash a valuable resource to the Lyme community. They, our USERS, provide the information, help and support.
This situation was simply caused by timing ... we communicate as fast as we can ... I rapidly sent the emails to Sarah ... she did receive them (there is no problem there) ... she, from what I can determine, did NOT read the emails until this morning.
Come on, please, cut us a little slack ... please, PLEASE don't blow this out of proportion ... PLEASE???
Thank you,
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djf2005
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lymetoo-
GUESTS?
is this a hotel? a restaurant? we are not customers, and this is not a for profit orginization.
we are people in need, people who deserve respect and information we can rely on.
i for one am NOT a guest here. i am a contributor, helper, and a gatherer of information, same as every other member is.
the reason people are so fired up, and i am so concerned, is concerning the abuse of banning people w/ little or no notice.
this site holds too many people's lives together for them to wake up one day and not be able to access it.
literally, there are a lot of lymies WHO LIVE on lyme net.
you cannot just cut off one's life source like that. its wrong, ego centric, and uncalled for.
did we not all see how sarah felt?
she was a mess over it. all she does is help people. yes, her opinions and views are sometimes contrary to others, but ISNT THAT THE POINT OF LYMENET???
end of story.
humbly
derek
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Once again I hope to encourage some people, who know more about the ins and outs of this board than i do to !!!!please, please, please!!!!! \
GET OUT OF THE PROBELEM AND HELP FIND A SOLUTION!
If we keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results, well...
that is the definition of INSANITY!
Over the past few weeks, we have played THIS scenario out several times over several different people.
The moderators ahve a right to ban if they see a reason to, we do NOT have control over that. We simply do not. Unless this board becomes a place where you have to PAY to be on it and POST then the ones who "own" it CAN kick you out!
It doesnt matter if we agree or not!!! If this place is as important to you as it is to me, find a sensible solution to the problem.
I for one dont fully UNDERSTAND the problem behind it therefore can only offer what limited insight I may have which also could be totally off.
So, my question is this....
Moderators,
What is the repetitive issue that seems to be creating such a rub and getting individuals temporary or permanantly blocked from access to this sight?
Is it "one" general thing that continues to occur? If so what is it?
Is it based on concern? Liability? What is the basis behind it from your stand point?
With this, maybe collectively we can come up with SOLUTIONS for the future!!!
And please, please, please, EVERYONE, if any moderator responds to this we do have to remember this is their board!!!! They can set the rules, period. If we dont like it we can go somewhere else!!!!
So in a sense, yes, we are Guests that contribute, support, etc, but we are still guests!!!
-------------------- Seeking renewed health & vitality. --------------------------------- Do not take anything I say as medical advice - I am NOT a dr! Posts: 830 | From TN | Registered: Aug 2007
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I had logged off without having gotten anything and didn't get anything until this morning!!! I am sure Lou sent them last night as he said but I didn't get them then- I got them this morning.
I am just glad to be here.
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AliG
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and we're so glad to have you here!!!!
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bejoy
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If you've ever been in management, you know that one of the tough things about it is keeping confidentiality, while carrying out difficult responsibilities.
The moderators could give us blow by blow descriptions of why they make decisions for and about other people, but that would be a violation of privacy.
I'm glad they have more respect for contributors than to gossip about other people's business.
So, what do you say we get back to lymenet business?
What if each person reading this post goes back right now and answers a question for a searching newbie, in the most thoughtful, educated, scientific, creative, supportive, and caring way possible.
That's what lymenet is really all about, isn't it?
-------------------- bejoy!
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TerryK
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I agree with lymetoo. We are guests. We need to act accordingly. Show a little respect for each other and to the moderators.
Good points bejoy. Let's get back to business.
Glad you are back Sarah.
Thanks moderators for putting up with all this hassle.
Terry
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I'm addressing this to Derek because he brought up these points but my response is also addressed to all the LymeNet users.
Derek, you said "Be forewarned" What? ... why the threat? Please ... lighten up!
Derek, you said "What is even more ridiculous, is that you, the mod, doesnt need to provide the gen pop with an explanation as to why you just cut people off?" Well, let me explain, we ban a user for only one reason, that being violation of the LymeNet Flash Terms & Conditions (Rules) which were displayed to all users when they registered and they clicked on "Agree" but probably didn't read a single word. If you are interested, the LymeNet T&C's are clickable at the bottom of every LymeNet web page and are viewable at this link: http://www.lymenet.org/terms.shtml
Derek, you said "Lack of staff, mods", money ... Yes, all of the above and we are somewhat at fault for not coming to all of you and saying "we desperately need help" because as the user numbers have grown we always thought we could handle it and a good example why we can't handle it without additional help is this Topic thread ... there are too many of you and if you all come at us we can't possibly handle it ... I can barely keep up with this single Topic thread today ... the rest of the stuff on LymeNet? Who knows ... Yes ... we need additional moderators to help and we need your donations so we can keep paying the bills.
Oh, another thought ... the number of users on LymeNet has grown exponentially and now we have Lyme Enigma, Lyme News, Lyme World, LymeNet Europe and maybe a few others. What does that tell us? My thought ... Lyme and TBD's are a true epidemic!!! To me, that is very upsetting and I guess all of you being victims or family members of victims are upset too ... I know you can't kick the crap out of the tick that bit you but do you think there is any benefit in kicking the crap out of one another ... and beating the crap out of us guys who do our best to keep LymeNet running?
Guests ... I never thought of it that way but our small group of 7 does our best to keep this thing going ... we or our family members and now all of you (and I am glad to call many of you, especially some of you that have been here with me far too long "my friends") have been affected by these horrible diseases ... Lyme and all the other stuff really sucks!!!
In case some of you don't know why I hang in here (I know some of my long term friends here have seen this) trying to help. It's this simple, because info we found on LymeNet helped save my daughter's life so I owe my daughter's life and now because she survived, (there were times I didn't she would make it) my grandkids lives to LymeNet. You can read my daughter's story at: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/lorib/
Thanks for listening to (reading) my ramblings.
Now ... can we all please lighten up? Can you control yourselves ... please stop fighting.
How about a little lovin'?
Happy Thanksgiving everyone,
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And thank you Lou for doing a thankless job! You're the voice of reason on here and I appreciate all you do for Lymenet!
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djf2005
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lou-
i accept your apology.
i also apologize publicly if i crossed any lines.
it seems clear you all need help. it also seems clear these issues would not continue to arise if you had more help.
i for one (although now i am sure i am not your #1 choice nor do i care) would gladly help in any way i can.
here's to lymenet getting on the road to recovery as well as everyone here.
happy thanksgiving everyone
cheers
humbly,
derek
ps- asking you to be forewarned was not a threat at all, it was simply some good advice. if this continues, there will be little left of lymenet, and the people that actually know something about how to help people such as cave or sarah will be long gone. i know its hard to heed some advice, i struggle with this as well. anyway, this has played out way too long. i hope it gets better
pps- i am formally offering my services in any fashion i am able to lighten the current load on the mods. if you are serious about resolving this issue, pm me and i will be glad to be of some assistance. i am not yet able to work so now is the time. thanks lou.
-------------------- "Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens to you."
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Ok, Lou, I looked at all the links you provided here. I hope that everyone reads the rules of Lymenet so they don't get broken and put us through all this hassle. It sounds like you and your family have been through a lot, like all of us. It looks like you and your Lymenet group do a lot of work here.
So all I am asking from you is that you find a less hurtful way to investigate any problems on the board. It's extremely upsetting for people to go through blocks and bannings, especially in this most recent example where someone did not even get the communication you sent.
I would really encourage you to do the moderation work here without having to cut people off. To let them know what the problem is so it can be corrected and we can keep our wonderful folks on the board.
Thank you for your attention, and ok, everyone, have a great thanksgiving and let's give thanks to each other for being here to help.
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merrygirl
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Lou and others- Thank you or all that you do
I think that the Lyme group is a fiesty bunch! We have to be or we would not be able to survive!
We just need to be fiesty with the right people (IDSA, CDC MD"S etc) not each other.
I also think that a lot of us (myself included) feel that this board is much more than some website. It is family, friends and and a sense of hope and I have only been here for 6 months! So I think we become very protective here.
I think it should be mandatory that ater you read a "questionable" post you should have to wait at least 20 minutes before you post a Reply!!!
No posting near the full moon too!! Hahaha
Think before we "speak" This includes me, so I am removing a post I made "moderators what the heck is going on??? because it no longer needs to exist!
I am really glad Sarah is not banned and that hopefully we can move on!
I have a lot of free time so I am happy to help if needed.
everyone have a happy and safe thanksgiving!!
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I don't want ya'll to think that I am stepping on anyones toes, but I found Lymenet on the google search engine in Aug. of this year. I sit back and read and research this time consuming disease that we are all going through, and there are some nights when I can't sleep, I know that I can go online and get in touch with someone who is dealing with the same things that I am going through. If it weren't for this website there are nights when I think I would loose my mind.
I would like to thank Lou B. for starting this and seeing it through. To some of us who are lost, you are a guiding light helping us find a way to face it, deal with it and fight what brought us all to your website and for that I Thank You.
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Finding my happy place.
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bettyg
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quote:Originally posted by djf2005: lou- i accept your apology. i also apologize publicly if i crossed any lines.
it seems clear you all need help. it also seems clear these issues would not continue to arise if you had more help.
i for one (although now i am sure i am not your #1 choice nor do i care ) would gladly help in any way i can.
here's to lymenet getting on the road to recovery as well as everyone here.
pps- i am formally offering my services in any fashion i am able to lighten the current load on the mods. if you are serious about resolving this issue, pm me and i will be glad to be of some assistance. i am not yet able to work so now is the time. thanks lou.
derek, i bolded a comment you made above. this is an example of what STARTS FIGHTS again after we are starting to get things settled down since Lou B was kind enough to come here addressing recent problems, bannings, going on.
read that sentence again without the words i bolded; what a difference it would read and MEAN from the heart! don't you agree.
derek, you owe lou an apology. end of subject.
robin, good point! i was going to address this as well:
all are INNOCENT until found guilty with enough proof to ban the member! don't investimate AFTER you ban someone but BEFORE any hasty actions are taken.
yes, i've hated so much coming here daily to this circus RIOT ACT where the GOLDEN RULE, DO UNTO OTHERS AS THEY DO UNTO YOU, was meaning: you throw the 1st punch and i'll reciprocate!
i'm willing to help in any way with a group of others to get this board to NO. 1 again; it's way down there and getting almost to chuckie's science fi that i've read about here for along time.
i can understand sarah not getting emails! ********************************************
sarah, i've tried sending twice to YOUR HOME ADDRESS; your HOME EMAIL IS FULL TOO; please clean house there and your PM box! thanks my calif. friend! i still want to send you something after you sent me about being reinstated!
today is THANKSGIVING, let us all start with a NEW SLATE....empty; not holding grudges for past events; deal with today on, and let's MOVE FORWARD, UPWARD, "I THINK I CAN; I THINK I CAN" attitude .
let's HELP ONE ANOTHER; not hurt and destroy one another!
let's fight IDSA, CDC, HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES DENYING US PAYMENTS, to get our 2 lyme bills SIGNED IN CONGRESS IN 2007!
let's use the energy we all wasted on recent events on contacting our DC house reps/senators getting them to CO-CHAIR our 2 lyme bills.
let's write more followup letters to all the crap recently in the papers from OUR CHRONIC LYME PERSPECTIVES and what was incorrect in their articles.
fund lymenet during this ANNUAL FUNDRAISING TIME. ************************************************
LOU B, i still would like to know how the money is being used this year on what equpment, etc. INQUIRING MINDS LIKE TO KNOW; yes, I'm NOSEY! i said it; you didn't !
now, how can i help you? i hope you noticed my sincere SMILE!
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I for one am THANKFUL that LymeNet exits! I can't tell you how much more secure I feel knowing that there's a place for me to turn to if I or my family needs help.
Christina
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djf2005
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betty-
i already aplologized once.
if one more apology is going to make you feel better then, then here it goes.
lou, i am sorry if i crossed any lines, plese forgive me?
ok....there we were
also, maybe if you didnt put my words into bold text they woulnt be misconstrued?
just another thought?
humbly,
derek
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