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Carmen
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I have no clue what his doc will say but it might be interesting.

Mark your calendar.

Click this Link at 6pm EST on Tuesday, January 21 to Listen:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blakeradio

OR

Dial in to listen: 914-338-0695

Please join Dr D at 6pm EST on Tuesday, January 21 for the Healing with Dr D Show. The show's title is

Lyme Disease: Plague or Hoax

Dr D breaks the silence. What is a Lyme test, how accurate is it really? What is Lyme Disease?? How is it spread?? What is the real cause?? What does it take to cure you?? What about antibiotics?? Dr D shares her experiences and successes with Lyme Disease. Tune in and heal.

Healing with Dr D at 6pm EST on Tuesday January 21. Listen by phone ( 914-338-0695 or online click this link:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blakeradio

Ask questions during the show, by phone call: 914-338-0695 or online go to http://healingwithdrdaniels.chatango.com/

Dedicated to Your Healing,


Gabriel Gutierrez
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PS:

1. At Tuesday 6pm EST click this link http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blakeradio or copy and paste this link into your browser

2. Toward the bottom of the page, you will see "Upcoming Broadcasts".

3. Click the right arrow until you see "Healing With Dr D"

4. Click on the title.

5. Click the play arrow to the bottom left of the picture.

6. Watch out for our Tuesday Email as we will give you a more direct link for the radio show

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Carmen
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This program about Lyme will be on soon... 6pm est
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Carmen
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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blakeradio/2014/01/21/healing-with-dr-daniels-lyme-disease-plague-or-hoax

I found this radio program to be very interesting. Dr D says she finds little lyme even when she is in 'lyme stricken' areas. She says most of what is going around is toxicity disease from drugs including vaccinations and antibiotics, and others and antibiotics will only make it worse. She says she gets people well.

She says that if you still have lyme after many years of treatment you probably dont have lyme. She explains the hoax of the antigen tests. She lists the conditions that can cause a 'lyme like syndrome'.

She says that we need to use the old test method that was used for syphilis to diagnos, but they are not available anymore according to the CDC. What tests were these? Dark field microscopy available in Idaho, Nevada, California and probably any state that has licensed naturopathic doctors.

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What "hoax of antigen tests" are you talking about Carmen?

The hoax is the two-tier ANTIBODY method currently in use all over the world thanks to CDC, NIH etc..This method is extremely insensitive.

Elena

ps Darkfield IS an antigen test.

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"Dr D says she finds little lyme even when she is in 'lyme stricken' areas."

Glad I am not her patient! I am waiting for the program to download to listen, but it doesn't sound like she is very versed in Lyme at all from your description. Or shall I say she has been swept up in the IDSA propaganda?

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OH MY GOODNESS!!!

This has to be the absolute worst program I've EVER heard about Lyme disease. EVER!!!!

I can't believe she is a licensed doctor- IF she still is. Even the IDSA would burn her at the stake if they heard her!

I don't know what to say. I guess I just want to ask her...

"Seriously? Are you on drugs?"

I tried to find some contact info about her and in the process saw a short post that said she was run out of the country (for other reasons) and is in Jamaica (2008).

Then the caller says he is a doctor and he is curing people who have Lyme (no complaints either) with venus fly-trap extract!

Quote she just said... "They had to blame this epidemic of aches and pains on something."

Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

She just said if you blamed the dog tick for Lyme people would have to murder their dogs.

OH MY GOODNESS!!!

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She just said... "Low dose naltrexone is more deadly than heroin."

It just keeps getting worse!

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More things she is saying as I listen.

"There is no evidence that ticks cause the disease."

Peoples belief in this (Lyme disease) is the total nature of the successful propaganda about this disease.

Its in New York City. Where are the deer in NY City? ... In Philadelphia... Where are the deer in the high rise apartments?

(She had a bullseye rash). Said she was sitting in a conference room and saw the rash, and said there is no way I was bitten by a tick. So she can't have Lyme.

"It's a hoax and it's a plague."

Ahhhhhhhh!!!! My ears are bleeding!!!!!

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Did I mention she blamed Lyme on Chem Trails because the maps show Lyme is mostly found in cities?

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quote:
Originally posted by Eight Legs Bad:

ps Darkfield IS an antigen test.

I thought darkfield was a type of microscope blood anlaysis. I went to the CDC and they said that syphilis use to be diagnosed by such darkfield microscopic blood exam but no longer. ...
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Yes, I think quite a few things she said was out in left field... but ... the idea, the possibility that the antigen tests are so irregular, so inaccurate, how can they possibly know for sure that they are really treating lyme, particularlly on some of the patients who dont ever get well with antibiotics? I think its fair to conclude that maybe they dont have lyme in some cases.

Just like some of the MS cases have turned out to be lyme, maybe some of the lyme cases aren't lyme at all. I'd say that if this is happening its a very small percentage but for those people it could be critical to know the difference.

I do know that some people who fail to respond to antibiotics do indeed have lyme, and this has been proven out by dark field live blood anlaysis when these type patients finally get the dark field live blood analysis test done. Their blood is loaded with lyme after 2 and more years on antibiotics. Not an antigen test, but pure visualization of the spirochete.

As far as chemtrails go... I dont know... I do know they spray over my valley daily making massive cloud banks as the trails spread out and last all day. I cant help but wonder what its all about.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tincup:
Did I mention she blamed Lyme on Chem Trails because the maps show Lyme is mostly found in cities?

actually she blamed the rash on chemtrails, not lyme. She thinks some rashes are caused by chemicals. There are those who swear their morgellons was caused by chemtrails but clearly I dont accept her analysis on this.
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Darkfield is an antigen test in the sense that darkfield looks for the spirochaete itself, the source of antigen, while the two-tier method imposed on most of the world by the US public health apparatus looks for antibody.

There are 999 reasons why the antibody test might be negative in a person who is infected with Borrelia.

I have not seen the video, but judging from the comments above it does not seem worth the bother.

The reason we have a Lyme forum here with tens of thousands of members is because is largely bound up with the "hoax" promoted by CDC, IDSA's Lyme committee etc, that the serology testing is reliable.

I asked you a question, Carmen. What "antigen test hoax" were you referring to? I'm not aware of any.

Elena

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Hey Carmen,

You said... "actually she blamed the rash on chemtrails, not lyme."

Sorry if I was misleading anyone. If I remember right, and that's always up for debate, she said she had a perfect bulls-eye rash she found on her while at a conference (in Philly?). Then she went on to talk about maps and that Lyme being shown to be mostly in cities (NY, DC, etc) and how that was impossible because no deer in cities, blah blah blah.

Anyhow... I should have been clearer. So to clarify, to me a bulls-eye rash is Lyme, and Lyme is not caused by Chem trails, in my opinion. Rashes may be, but Lyme spirochetes falling from the sky to infect people is just not something we can prove is happening right now.

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This woman has done more damage than good. She's an idiot. I could go on, but not interested in wasting more time on nonsense.
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I got a call from the Michigan Department of Health yesterday. The nurse who called to survey me asked where I had my rash.

That's like asking, "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

There WAS no rash. And yes, I DO have Lyme Disease, since you're calling me... the lab reported it to you, not me.

I will fight all this "Lyme doesn't exist" baloney. After 20 years, I finally know why I feel horrible all the time.

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