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Posted by Col86 (Member # 40794) on :
 
I have spent the past 6 days in the hospital due to being so ill I couldn't function. Hospital ran elisa - positive w blot showed 2 bands on igg. They did not tell me which ones. Also tested band 18 on igm. I had late stage lyme 14 years ago. They said that they are confused by western blot but believe I'm negative for current infection. Did the almighty spinal tap. Of course that came up clean.
The prescribed 10 days of dozy as that is the protocol according to worthless infectious disease dr.
I'm having all tests sent to me. Seeing LLMD in a few weeks
If one has band 18 in igm does that mean active lyme?
 
Posted by Col86 (Member # 40794) on :
 
Sorry for typos. Typing from cell in hospital. Being released now
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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ANY positive bands on either the IgG or the IgM Western Blot can indicate CURRENT, active or persistent borellia infection, especially with classic symptoms, and your history with lyme.

I assume they did not test for Babesia or other tick-borne infections?

See the Western Blot Explanation post here:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=015508;p=0

Diagnosing Lyme Disease (&/or whatever else is going on)

Other tick-borne infections and other chronic stealth infections - as well as certain conditions that can hold us back - are discussed here.


http://www.anapsid.org/lyme/lymeseroneg.html

Reasons for False Negative (Seronegative) Test Results in Lyme Disease


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=013239;p=0

What is a LLMD? LL ND? What is ILADS?

WHY you need an ILADS "educated" or "minded" Lyme Literate doctor (whether MD or ND, or both) - starting with assessment / evaluation.

Medical "models" explained here, as to differences in the ISDA & ILADS models of assessment & treatment - and exactly why it is so very important to know the differences.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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How doxycycline, alone, can cause chronic lyme, see thread below.

Hopefully, when you see your LLMD in a couple weeks, you will be able to get a full protocol.

In the meantime, I suggest GSE, grapefruit seed extract and certain enzymes such as Wobenzyme.

Good luck.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=120369;p=0

Topic: replication within cystic forms of lyme
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Pulling out from that set, IMO, the top three adjunct avenues that I would consider were I to be you - until you can get in to see your LLMD. Be sure to get on their list in case there is an opening, too.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=117755;p=0

Topic: RIFE Machine - Reference LINKS

LL ND (Naturopathic doctor) links here, too, with articles & books for various approaches.

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http://tinyurl.com/5drx94

Book: Lyme Disease and Modern Chinese Medicine -

- by Dr. QingCai Zhang, MD & Yale Zhang

web site: try www.sinomedresearch.org

Passwords: "clinic" and then "clinic" again

or call for help: Hepapro - www.hepapro.com

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http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Lyme-Prevention-Borreliosis-Coinfections/dp/0970869630/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1361216068&sr=1-1&keywords=Healing+Lyme%3A+Natural+Healing+And+P revention+of+Lyme+Borreliosis+And+Its+Coinfections

Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its Coinfections

- by Stephen Harrod Buhner (2005)

[He is a master herbalist / researcher / author - not a treating doctor. He isextremely lyme literate.]


http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Lyme-Disease-Coinfections-Complementary/dp/1620550083/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1361214365&sr=1-1&keywords=Healing+Lyme+Disease+Coinfections%3A+C omplementary+and+Holistic+Treatments+for+Bartonella+and+Mycoplasma+%5BPaperback%5D

Healing Lyme Disease Coinfections: Complementary and Holistic Treatments for Bartonella and Mycoplasma [May, 2013]

Stephen Harrod Buhner


Websites: http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/ & http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/

Forum: http://planetthrive.com/category/experts/buhner/
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Hope you feel better soon. I know there is a lot here to go through but I just wanted to be sure you had the basic tools - for now and as reference as you sort through all this.

Wish it were easier.

IMPORTANT ? - Did you receive STEROIDS while in hosptial? If so, there are some things you might need to do differently. Hope not, though.

Take care.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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And (sigh) there is more. I hope they told you, with doxycycline to:

AVOID ALL SUN EXPOSURE. "Doxy burns" can be brutal. Even through windows, even in the car. Keep all skin from sun and "bounced" sun.

STAY UPRIGHT (or at least your torso) for an hour after taking.

Avoid calcium and other minerals for a couple hours both directions of the clock. No dairy, for example but the calcium and minerals in greens will be fine.

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For any antibiotic:

PROBIOTICS are essential to try to prevent systemc candida infection. If you are in an intimate relationship, your partner should also take probiotics as candida can be passed, even with kissing.

Olive Leaf Extract can be very helpful to also prevent candida. I found this to be amazing help that prevented candida from even developing during my last stint with doxy. Berberine can also be excellent in this regard.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030549;p=0

OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT - LINKS


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=121034;p=0

BERBERINE � LINKS SET
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Posted by Col86 (Member # 40794) on :
 
Thank you for all the info. To answer your question they did not give me steroids.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Generally, keep each of these 3 categories separate by a couple hours, both clock directions (unless your LLMD later instructs differently, there are some exceptions).

Rx

Supplements (whether nutritional or herbal)

Probiotics
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Whew! So glad steroids were not involved. You likely know (but will say so for any newcomers reading this) that steroids can make lyme much worse and they can stay in the body for six months so it's not so easy to un-do the immune suppression.

One more set and I hope to leave you alone. Important with any antibiotics, etc:


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.
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Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :
 
Band 18 on IgM is my most positive band...

But yes, ANY positive bands on either IgM or IgG should be enough to get you in the door to see an LLMD, and they'll likely treat if you also have symptoms (and I assume you have symptoms, since you were in the hospital).
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
You need to find out if you have any coinfections. Make sure you are checked for ehrlichiosis and RMSF too.

I hope you feel better SOON!!
 


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