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Posted by BobG (Member # 39642) on :
 
Has anyone suffering from Lyme and/or co-infections found vitamin C to be helpful? If so, please describe your experience and how you knew it was working. Thanks so much
 
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/136811

I have a thread about liposomal Vit C.

I no longer have lyme, so I don't know if it would help lyme specifically... But why not?
 
Posted by MissVictoria (Member # 45232) on :
 
Liposomal Vitamin C really helps my energy
 
Posted by BobG (Member # 39642) on :
 
Thanks, MV, good to know.

Brussels, how do you know you know longer have lyme. Not questioning that you don't, but trying to understand best ways to monitor disease, particularly elimination. Thanks
 
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
Bob, the years I suffered from active lyme, I had all co-infections my lyme doctor could test me for.

I literally almost died. My whole body was affected, I could not even take a shower anymore (just once a month, as I lacked energy).

Well, I've been bitten many times during active lyme, usually when I was starting to feel better, then fell ill again, and again, and again...

I had to take at least 40 different substances (treatments) a day, some of them many times a day, so that I could feel like I belonged to the living world. That was my life for years.

In my worst times, I could fit 60 different treatments, hundreds of pills with herbs, supplements and homeopathics, all tightly measured by energy testing.

That was the maximum I could fit in a day for lack of time. That made about a treatment every 15 minutes.

That meant active lyme to me.

After years of treatment, the symptoms improved but I kept relapsing (or got bitten again).

I found photon treatment with borrelia nosodes and that finally stopped the cycle of lyme for me.

Ticks still bite me, but I don't usually take any special treatment any longer.

Lyme free means: no lyme treatment, no lyme symptoms.

I still treat my food allergies that went much worse during lyme.

I still treat heavy metals, glyphosate, still treat HPU on and off, I eat correctly, quite a strict diet NOT to fall ill again. I don't want to live hell again.

It's been 9.5 years I don't treat lyme anymore.

I'm not 100% healthwise, as I developed electro sensitivity during lyme, and I'm still sensitive, the same way I still have some food allergies. They are getting better though.

Lipo C helps me with deep energy. It helps with cleaning toxins, mobilizing them. It helps solve my food allergies, and solved my hay fever this last spring.
 
Posted by BobG (Member # 39642) on :
 
Great to hear. What a fighter! I have been researching this and this is one contravening view you have probably seen
https://www.lymeneteurope.org/info/vitamin-c-a-lyme-patient-s-friend-or-foe
It would be nice if someone would do some studies on this.
 
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
Are you new in the lyme world, Bob?

If you are, just watch out Lymenet Europe.

It's an almost evil site, that will push down any alternative treatment (Buhner was badly seen 13 years ago).

ANY alternative treatment is bad for them.

Only antibiotics work there. Only, no other treatment.

So if you believe in lymenet Europe and antibiotics, just take them, and don't add anything else, and see for yourself if you heal.

Why trying alternatives if only antibiotics heal?

Lymenet Europe is crap (my sincere opinion).

Some of the lymenet USA members who got banned (due to bad manners, mostly) went to lymenet Europe already 13 years ago (this is just part of what I know).


Read lymenet Europe and you'll find zero support for Rife, Spooky2, hyperbaric oxygen, herbs, Chinese herbs, electrotherapies, NILL.

You'll find NILL there. Zero support, only bashing.

Try to post anything EXCEPT for antibiotic treatment, you'll be bashed and ridiculed.

The treatment that healed me, photons and nosodes, has been discussed there with a lot irony.

I suspect there is a hidden agenda there (it had been discussed here in lymenet US quite a few times too).

So if you are new in lyme, beware lymenet Europe. You'll only get a biased view of lyme treatment.

Lymenet Europe does not represent what happens here in Europe (I live in Switzerland, next to Germany). Not at all.


If you are the guy who wants to wait for studies to see if this or that treatment work for lyme, first you gotta wait that there are good tests proving the patient has lyme.

We don't even know well if one has lyme or not, right?

So how to conduct trials with patients, if we don't even know whether they have lyme.

How to know if they got better, if testing is not precise?

If you just think 5 minutes, you'll see it's impossible today, with the means we have.

If you have the time to wait, well, I hope one day we'll unify all lyme tests, and one will be said to be THE good one.

Then trials can start!

Get a good couch, because you're going to have to wait.

And who would have interest in supplements such as ascorbic acid? What kind of interest pharma will have to sell more ascorbic acid?
 
Posted by BobG (Member # 39642) on :
 
Thanks, Brussels. Yes, I inspected the site more and wondered if the person running it had an agenda. A lot of time was spent crafting some of the information there and it is highly edited, slick, and professionally done. Yes, that was my conclusion from reading the site. Glad I asked for your opinion.
 


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