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Topic: not knowing what i do in sleep!

Radha
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 8464

posted

does anyone know what it is called when you do

things you cannot control or do not remember

doing in sleep, i dont sleep walk, but i have

noticed that recently i am doing other little

things like turning off my alarm clock before it

even goes off, or picking up the phone thinking

someone is calling and i am worried this problem

of doing things in my sleep is getting worse,

could it be because of the lyme or babs? and is

there any medicine to help this? thanks for any

info,

Radha

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DeniseNM
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 11182

posted

are you on any of the prescription sleep meds? I've heard Ambien can cause sleep amnesia (or whatever it is called).

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AliG
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9734

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Sleepwalking disorder, also called somnambulism, is characterized by repeating episodes of motor activity during sleep such as sitting up in bed, rising, and walking around, among others.

The person appears to be awake because their eyes are usually open and they can maneuver around objects, but is considered asleep.

Read more: www.minddisorders.com

emedicine - Sleepwalking Causes

Genetic factors

Sleepwalking occurs more frequently in identical twins, and is 10 times more likely to occur if a first-degree relative has a history of sleepwalking.

Environmental factors

Sleep deprivation, chaotic sleep schedules, fever, stress, magnesium deficiency, and alcohol intoxication can trigger sleepwalking.

Drugs, for example, sedative/hypnotics (drugs that promote sleep), neuroleptics (drugs used to treat psychosis), minor tranquilizers (drugs that produce a calming effect), stimulants (drugs that increase activity), and antihistamines (drugs used to treat symptoms of allergy) can cause sleepwalking.

Physiologic factors

* The length and depth of slow wave sleep, which is greater in young children, may be a factor in the increased frequency of sleepwalking in children.

* Conditions, such as pregnancy and menstruation, are known to increase the frequency of sleepwalking.

Associated medical conditions

* Arrhythmias (abnormal heart rhythms)

* Fever

* Gastroesophageal reflux (food or liquid regurgitating from the stomach into the food tube or esophagus)

* Nighttime asthma

* Nighttime seizures (convulsions)

* Obstructive sleep apnea (a condition in which breathing stops temporarily while sleeping)

* Psychiatric disorders, for example, posttraumatic stress disorder, panic attack, or dissociative states (for example, multiple personality disorder)

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It looks like there are quite a few things listed that Lyme could cause, so I guess it COULD be related to Lyme. I don't know if you would have to have a genetic predisposition or not.

I think the sedative hypnotics (ie: Ambien) might be able to cause it even if you're not predisposed.

My dad had it happen with Ambien-CR. My physician told me that they were finding people acutually driving themselves places while asleep on Ambien-CR so there was NO WAY he way putting me on it.

I can't even imagine how scary it must be to realize you've been doing things in your sleep that you have no memory of. [shake]

I would definitely put in a call to the LLMD about this. I hope you figure out the cause & can stop it soon. [group hug]

What medications are you taking? Any that might cause it?
[confused]

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Note: I'm NOT a medical professional. The information I share is from my own personal research and experience. Please do not construe anything I share as medical advice, which should only be obtained from a licensed medical practitioner.

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Jin
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Member # 11735

posted

Dear AliG,
That was fascinating information! I would not take those sleep medications, either. They are dangerous. I saw a show about a man who murdered his wife while sleepwalking. He had no history of violence or abuse. People often become violent if they are disturbed while sleepwalking for some reason. My mother had a cousin who attacked her sister during an episode she had.

Sincerely,
Jin

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AliG
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Member # 9734

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I know if I'm in a deep sleep & someone wakes me I tend to start swinging.

If you rouse someone who thinks that they're sleeping, laying in their comfy bed, and they awaken having no idea where they are, how they got there, who's touching them or why,...I would think it would be instinctive try to defend yourself.

I can't even imagine how terrifying that might be. [Eek!]

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Radha
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 8464

posted

i have never sleepwalked, i am actually

bedridden, i cannot even stand, and i have never

taking meds like ambien but i do take ativan or

klonopin sometimes, so if i am not sleepwalking

is it still called the same thing when you do

other things in your sleep? i really appreciate

all your help, is there any treatment?

Radha

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springshowers
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Member # 19863

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First of all i want to express how sorry I am that you are in such a situation due to this disease and I hope that you do find some solutions and answer that will help you improve and regain your health and mobility. My thoughts and prayers are with you..

I would be 100 percent surprised if it was NOT the medications your on. I have both Klonopin and Ativan and they BOTH do this to me too.
It is medication induced and puts you into a strange state and is not uncommon.
I will wake up to weird things like food wrappers or bowls and even in my bed or letters or emails written I do not remember even getting out a pen or even going to my computer!! I will have clothes out or laundry started and I do no remember starting it.

It feels scary and frustrating. Ambien also and other sleep meds too do this. I have had to stop All and any meds that are for sleep or anti anxiety all together for helping with sleep. Its not worth it for me.

Meditation and warm baths with hot tea and other relaxation or mind soothing methods have taken their place. Lots more work with only positive side affects.

Try to stop those meds totally (if possible) and track yourself
afterward .. Good Luck to you...

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sutherngrl
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Member # 16270

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I am taking Xanax and Ambien and have never had any such thing happen to me. I think it is a "rare" side effect and doesn't happen to most ppl. And I have to sleep! Some of us have such severe insomnia that we have no choice but to take these meds.

If you are on any sleep aids then you might want to change to another kind and see what happens.

I would imagine that these things might be happening to you because you are not getting the right kind of sleep. Sort of half way between awake and asleep.

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AliG
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Unless I am misunderstanding, I believe that Somnambulance is repeating complex activities in one's sleep.

Ativan & Klonapin are both sedative-hypnotic drugs. They can cause the same problems as Ambien with somnambulance & amnesia.

Posthypnotic Amnesia, I believe, would be the classification for the type of amnesia(memory loss) caused by "sedative- hypnotic" drugs.

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Note: I'm NOT a medical professional. The information I share is from my own personal research and experience. Please do not construe anything I share as medical advice, which should only be obtained from a licensed medical practitioner.

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AliG
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With the sedative hypnotics you may rouse out of the sleep state, but still be in a sort of hypnotic trance. [Roll Eyes]

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IckyTicky
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Member # 21466

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My son did this when he started abx treatment (Zith) for Lyme and Bart. He is only 6, but he would get up in the night and go to his sisters room and start hitting her. Or get up and run around the room, acting out a dream etc.
It stopped when I halved his dose. But his sister still doesn't trust him.

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