I have been treating them for around 4 months. For those that are getting better, did treating the parasites help you????
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Hi TO LIFE,
I have been treating using antiparasitics for over 3 yrs and I am much better than I was. According to the lymephotos site it can take 2-5 yrs to get rid of them depending on how long you have been sick.
Remember they are laying worms and larva through the G.I track so you have to be very persisitent. How are you doing with your treatment for these?
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Hi Gael,
I really appreciate your wisdom. The last couple days I have gone on the reg. humaworm again.
I think the parasites are in my lungs and muscle's.
My Lymph system seeems a bit clearer, it is such a rough fight for me.
On another note, I guess I am lucky I was eaten alive.
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I've been doing a lot of parasite cleansing and it's really helped. I've done several rounds of Humaworm which has worked better than other parasite cleanses I've tried.
I also started Salt/C (see Gael's ref re: lymephotos and P.S. thanks Gael!) and it is doing wonders. I am combining that protocol with taking Zymex II digestive enzymes to help (ewwww) digest the critters as they are dying off. Stuff has been pouring out of me.
Yes, stuff is still coming out, even though I have done a lot of parasite cleansing (including 6 rounds of Humaworm) on this protocol so I really understand now more than ever how difficult they can be to get rid of and how it can take a long time.
And I also recognize the importance of doing parasite cleanses in the right way so they don't build up resistance. I made that mistake in early days and I believe I am paying for it.
Before doing this I felt at a standstill in my healing progress from Lyme.
Interestingly, I think I am peeling off layers of illness -- for example, a few days ago a butterfly rash popped up on my face, despite me testing negative for Lupus years ago. I count this as progress and that the salt/c is really attacking things.
Best to you in your parasite cleansing journey!
Ali
P.S. Parasites in the lungs can be ascaris - roundworms. When you cough phlegm up it's their eggs because they lay them there. Ick, I know. I also have them in my muscles because I can feel their death throes when they go, so that's encouraging!
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Hi Alison,
So glad to know you are sticking with the salt/c and making such great progress. The onion peeling affect is amazing isn't it? I had a huge rash come out a couple of months ago under my breasts.
Almost completely gone now. I have also felt the worms dying in my muscle tissue. BTW, thank you for turning me on to Humaworm. I will be doing my second round in Sept.
Love the Nom Nom Nom signature...This IS such an ewwwwwwww disease,
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Just started Humaworm for myself, so I'll have to see how it goes. Treating for parasites makes sense since they are just as difficult to detect as Lyme bacteria.
The Animal Planet show, Monsters Inside Me, should be another good indication that treating for parasites is a real approach to take.
I also went a step further with the natural field and purchased a zapper. Did some research and purchased from a company I felt was reputable enough. Not sure if it will work or not, but it was a heck of a lot cheaper than a rife machine and I can't afford the far infrared sauna I would like to get. The zapper is based on Hulda Clark's research.
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Ott,
Whatever antiparasitic herbs you choose, just know it's not a one shot deal and it could take many months of rotating different herbs to get rid of these parasites.
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when doing humaworm do you have to stop all other treatments.. including herbs??? and how do you do it??
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What other treatments are you using?
People taking antibiotics and herbs usually space the herbs a couple of hours apart.
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Hi,
Gael,
I hope your day is full of love, for helping soo many of us out. You are a joy.
Alison,
Love the name by the way. I could very well have this type of roundworm infection. I am a bit over 4 months of treatment. I had severe nausea which has gone about 70%.
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UnexpectedIlls -- you can take whatever you're taking whilst doing the Humaworm (according to the guy who makes it), but Gael's advice is spot on I think for spacing it out, which is what I do too.
One other thing I am doing, and this relates to a post from another forum that the awesome Gael sent to me about the Zymex II enzymes. They suggested a vegetarian diet when taking the Zymex so it could target the parasites as they break down and not any meat one might eat.
I've gone a step further since I am really really mad at these little critters and have been just doing juicing for the past 8 days as well as doing Humaworm *and* Salt/C. I just want to starve the @#$^!*^ out of those &^!@ ers!!! And let the enzymes do their work.
The bad news is having to stay pretty near a toilet a lot. But the good news is my inflammation is receding at a very rapid pace and my herxes are mild to nonexistant otherwise. Only four days in and my pants were loose. I believe this is not fat loss but inflammation reduction. Needless to say, I am *very* thrilled!
At this point I believe that the parasites, and I include the spirochete, bart, babs, etc in this crew are what has kept my inflammation to the point up to now where it was unbudging.
I tried low carb/gluten free and it did nothing for me so I was really frustrated. This stuff seems to be working.
I'd be interested to hear also from anyone who's had positive results with Salt/C.
To Life -- thanks! And remember you can ask RG to make a custom batch of Humaworm (recommended after the first round) to specifically target the roundworms extra hard. Just send an e-mail to [email protected] after you place your order.
Cheers,
Alison
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Hi Folks,
Has anybody else read any articles on Infections and Bacteria needing parasites, to survive.
I think in my case this is why the never ending vicious circle.
I have only studied just a little.
I would really appreciate your wisdom from the bottom of my heart.
"The majority of human filarial parasites carry intracellular symbiotic bacteria, Wolbachia, that appear to be essential for development and reproduction of the parasite. The recent availability of genomic data for both filaria and Wolbachia provides insight into essential aspects of the symbiotic relationship between the endosymbiont and its nematode host."
Nom nom!
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Hey Ali,
Interesting that you mentioned that you are doing juicing for the past week. I have been doing smoothies with yogurt/greens etc plus enzymes for 2 weeks.
The weight is falling off of me too (thank god) but truthfully I could eat a bear!@ I literally have food dancing (hallucinating?)in front of my eyes. I thought the longer you go without food, the less you crave it.
I am just wondering if these critters are trying to make me eat? From what I have read of GiGis posts about parasites they are highly evolved.
Any insights from anyone?
Gael
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When inflammation and swelling affect your joints, besides pain, it is called rheumatoid arthritis. In addition, a blood test may reveal "rheumatoid factor" to be present. In this case, the common tiny round worms have invaded you joints. These are Ascaris, Ancylostomas, Strongyloides, and Trichinella. Their eggs are everywhere around us, in dust and dirt and the filth under fingernails and our own bowel movements.
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Alison,
I really appreciate you opening my eyes to round worms. I am still R/A postive because of this, their is no doubt in my mind.
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TO LIFE,
Thanks for posting that. I know it is absolutely true because I have had little ones come out of my wrist joints. First they scab.
Gael
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I'm absolutely *convinced* that they play a major role in food cravings. Apparently mine want In-N-Out Burger with a side of doughnuts reeeeeeeally bad right now. A couple nights (this is when they are most active) I have had car keys in hand, practically doing the fingernails clutching the wall trying not to drag myself out to that drive-thru!
Another reason I think this is because I have had several really amazing bouts with milk cravings. And by cravings I mean having the overwhelming need to consume almost a gallon of milk a day. I read somewhere that tapeworms loves them theirs milk, so that kind of makes sense.
I have also read that intestinal parasites (I forget which kind) can also cause an extreme craving for charcoal or charred food. So if you're feeling a hankering for anything extra flame broiled ... could be parasites.
I also read somewhere that over time, parasites cause cellular inflammation leading to sugar imbalance leading to craving for sweet foods and carbs. Personally, I just think sugar and carbs and all the bad stuff are just the buggies' favorite things to eat. Especially sugar.
I know I have also had times where I've turned into a complete sugar monster. I will not relate here how many Kit-Kats I consumed once in one sitting, partly because I don't remember and partly because I don't want to remember. I just remember thinking "this is not normal" and it was shortly after this that 60 pounds appeared out of nowhere.
The weird thing is I wasn't a sugar junkie or anything, and it was just a few times, and then the inflammation just exploded on me and now I am wondering if I started off the parasites with a nice few rounds of sugar and they took care of the rest when they propagated.
To Life ... I am so happy and I hope you can show those buggies what-for. I think there is such a strong link between parasites and chronic illness. I hope more people find some good info about the link between this symbiotic thing they have going between them and bacteria etc.
Hulda is great ... I've used Clarkia several times before I discovered Humaworm.
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Dear Gael,
I really appreciate your wisdom from the bottom of my heart. Yes, they are just starting to come out of my joints. After over 4 months of treatment. Thanks for being you.
Please join us, we all need to get well.
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Ali, TO LIFE,
I eat dark chocolate (85%) during the day and it really helps with neuro stuff. Also, HOT salsa mixed with avacoados. (YUM) Potatoe chips (Yes potatoe chips) but here is the key, sprinkle with a LOT of cayenne pepper, garlic powder and onion powder and dip in salsa.
They seem to hate anything spicey and I have felt them die from the dark chocolate. Also pumpkin seeds with sea salt (yum) This helps from falling off the wagon so to speak.
Sounds great, but what I really want is a medium rare hamburger or steak with mashed potatoes, fried chicken, lox and bagels etc.
The only reason I stopped eating was not because I was that disciplined, but because I have gastroparesis and I was afraid of choking.
I think the gastro will go away as these critters leave.
Ali,
that's funny about having the car keys in your hand to go get that hamburger! DON"T GIVE IN......THIS IS WAR!!!
I remember reading on lymephotos that they have layed millions of eggs and they hide in the crevices of the intestines.
Gael
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I feel very bad when eating extremely spicy food now. I didn't before. Neuro symptoms almost occur. Could i ****ing the critters off? Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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Yes seek,
You very well could be killing them and probably are. I remember Dr. Young (ph miracle) saying eat everything hot and spicey because it kills yeast.
There is a DIRECT connection to the neurotransmitters in the small intestine and the brain. So whatever we ingest affects the brain. You can google this and see for yourself.
A few yrs ago I had a twenty yr old bullseye come out on my arm from eating spicey Indian Cuisine. I was having dinner with a friend of mine who is a nurse, so it was witnessed.
Gael
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Just started Humaworm. Can't tell much yet. I think it might cause me to have some of my PAC's/PVC's, but I've been having those well before Humaworm. Based on everything I have read, I think it's a good product to try and it's not very expensive. I have actually felt a little bit decent lately.
No zapper yet. Still waiting for it to arrive. The fellow who makes it (the Parazapper) said it might be a week or two.
glm,
Thanks for the info. I did plan on taking a few rounds of Humaworm with the 90 day rest interval in-between. I might try some of their other stuff also, like the viral and Lyme blends.
I haven't read the big parasite thread that was going on for awhile, but I totally believe the whole parasite angle as well as heavy metal toxic overload. Time to start purging all of that stuff out!
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what is a zapper??
Is it possible for a person NOT to have worms? I ask because I did alinia for a few months, followed by a round of Humaworm, and I never noticed any changes in how I felt,
and never saw anything suspicious. Is it because the little pests are hanging on tight or because I am wormproof?
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I did rounds of both Alinia and Biltricide (the pharmacist looked at me like I had three heads the first time I picked up the prescription and actually cried the second time thinking I must be dying from some horrible tropical parasites). They did nothing. NO-THING. Nu huh huh huh thing. I thought for sure they would do something. But zero results on Alinia and Biltricide.
I have also done a round of Humaworm where it seemed as if nothing had happened and it wasn't until I started the in-between herbs right after that stuff started coming out. Also, remember, so many parasites are microscopic, they can be coming out and can't be seen.
And, as Klinghardt mentions we have increasingly resistant complex evolved parasites. Wasn't he the one who found one with eyelashes?!? The weaker ones die first and often this just gives the stronger ones more space to thrive.
I just can't believe that I still have parasites after years of parasite cleanses! But I do! That is why I'm giving it everything I've got this time -- these guys are darn near intractable and I can actually feel (and see sometimes) them moving in my intestines.
Gael -- I'll hold tight!!!! One thing that helps me is juicing a bunch of pineapple (parasites hate pineapple) with a little cream in it and that keeps those car keys on the peg on the wall! Oh yes, this is war. It's ON, you creepy crawlers! (although thanks a lot, now I want a HUGE bagel with lox and cream cheese! lol)
And Gael is right ... I can't remember the exact percent but I think it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 80 to 90 percent of serotonin is produced in the intestinal tract! Which also has its own serotonin receptors! I think that is a key bit of info.
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Dear ott,
I am just learning. I have been treating parasites for a bit over 4 months.
Different type of parasites can get into the heart.
My heart was racing (high pulse) but it is getting more stable.
A zapper supposedly puts a low dose of voltage though the body that kills parasites. I don't think I can explain it real well yet, but the zapper is something that Hulda Clark recommends. Curezone.com has a good forum regarding zappers.
It cost me $100 and I figured it was worth trying for that cost since people have reported them working. I wouldn't mind having a rife machine at home, but they are too expensive for me so a zapper seemed the next best thing.
Parazapper.com is another good site to check out to come to your own conclusions about the technology.
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Ali,
I have been juicing fresh pineapple too!! They hate pumpkin seeds and I added a little sea salt and yogurt/kefir and dumped in blender with lots of ice.
I read that thread about them having eyelashes, and they are red with green eyes. Sounds like a bad sci-fi movie.
BTW...Ice cold seems to kill them...they can't tolerate extremes. Just keep going everyone,
Gael
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Ice cold you say, Gael? Moo hoo ha ha ha! Thank you! Yet another weapon to add to my list of things that seriously P*** off and or kill parasites. Filling up ice cube trays now.
Do you blend the raw pumpkin seeds as well? Do they blend OK?
BTW just got a scale and found out I have lost about 10 pounds in just over a week!
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Ali,
I got a cute little coffee grinder (good for other spices too)and pre-grind the pumpkin seeds...works like a charm..
they are good to munch on whole (the ones that are hulled they are small and green) have a delicous buttery taste and I season them with sea salt
I also put them in the grinder with some sea salt. Are you taking any extra protein?
I add the ice cubes until it gets like crushed ice. It tastes like a real treat and feels soothing..I also add my in between herbs from humaworm...10 lbs you say?
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Hi Folks,
Is their anybody else treating parasites?
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Nope, no extra protein. Just occasional use of heavy whipping cream and I make home made veggie soup that I blend so there's protein in that. But I'm definitely going to add the pumpkin seeds.
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Alison,
What's up with the heavy whipping cream? Is there some benefit I am missing here? I saw sixgoofykids post that she used to eat that also with berries. She was also fighting a heavy worm/parasite infestation,
Gael
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I just finished my first round of Humaworm a few weeks ago. I had a flare of serious neck pain ..went off in case it was from the herbs and back on with no problems. I didn't notice anything good or bad but like you said, it can take awhile and you can't always see something that tiny.
I plan on doing more, but I have to really think about how much Wormwood one does long term it has its side affects and I don't want to over do it. Maybe I can have them leave it out of the mix if I get the "message" not to do anymore. Let us know what you think of the zapper. Curions about it. good luck with your juicing. can't imagine having the ablity to do that with how I feel these days.
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Hi All,
I too have tested positive for parasites and my doctor had me on herbals for 2 yrs. Finally put me on prescription meds. I took 3 meds as follows:
Rifaximine 200mg 2 tabs twice a day for 3 days Albendazole 200mg one twice a day for 5 days Praziquantel 600mg 1 three times a day for 5 days
At the end of the 3rd medicine, my breasts broke out in a rash which has not stopped even though I finished the meds 2 weeks ago.
Has anyone else had this problem?
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I have/had rashes coming out of my breast and stomach (belly button area) after treating with antiparasitics. Mine hae ended up scabing sometimes and if I scratch them, little parasites come thru.
If we are taking things to klll the parasites, they will try and escape thru any route they can. The skin is the largest organ, so this makes sense.
Eventually the rash/scabs should calm down. Mine also itch, and that will eventually calm down. It could take a while so don't be alarmed. Remember, we are trying to purge this garbage out of us.
Gael
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Alison, I've heard Zymex II can "eat up" parasites (more specifically tapeworms)
Marc Frett discusses this
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canefan,
Alison hasn't been here for a long time. Maybe you could send her a PM and get an answer.
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