17hens
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Apparently I am magnesium retarded and I need help!
I've been using Source Naturals' Ultra-Mag. The main ingredients are Vit.B-6, Magnesium as magnesium citrate, taurinate, melate, glycinate, and succinate, and Sodium.
a homeopath I recently saw told me this was the WRONG KIND of magnesium but didn't tell me what the RIGHT KIND was.
I know to try and avoid magnesium stearate, but WHAT KIND should I be taking? Magnesium lactate, carbonate, citrate, sulfate, oxide, chloride, hydroxide or other?
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Razzle
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I've heard the malate form is supposed to be good...
I use magnesium oxide (Country Life brand Chelated Magnesium...no financial connections just a satisfied customer) but that's cuz I need it to stay in my gut to keep things moving...and I do seem to absorb some of it because without it, I get a whole ton more muscle cramps/spasms...
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quote:Originally posted by dogmom2: There is some controversy about whether oral mag. feeds the bacteria and maybe transdermal is better.
That might explain why I can't tolerate it. I was taking the magnesium malate.
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I think magnesium needs to be taken 2 hours away from other vitamins because of absortion.
I also switched to mag. oxide after seeing a llmd who specializes in chinese herbs and accupunture. He said I was severely mag. deficient even though I was taking mag. taurate for 3 years.
It made a huge difference-1500 mg per day in divided doses
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quote:Originally posted by lyme987: I think magnesium needs to be taken 2 hours away from other vitamins because of absortion.
I also switched to mag. oxide after seeing a llmd who specializes in chinese herbs and accupunture. He said I was severely mag. deficient even though I was taking mag. taurate for 3 years.
It made a huge difference-1500 mg per day in divided doses
I thought that was the least absorbable..????
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17hens
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Thanks everyone. I'm still feeling magnesium retarded...
UP for more?
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IM and IV Mag Chloride is the most effective for really low magnesium levels.
If you are low, your body can't possibly absorb enough magnesium to restore your levels. You need to get it into your cells - making IV or transdermal your best shot. Too often we try the bigger is better approach, and most of the mag we take ends up in the toilet.
Magnesium is best taken with food, along with Calcium in a 1-2 ratio (one part magnesium to two parts calcium).
Of the oral types, citrate, chloride, and aspartate, are all better absorbed. I take tiny doses of mag aspartate throughout the day, but still need to do IM Mag Sulfate once every 2 weeks (down from twice a week from long ago).
This web page is pretty informative in easy to understand language. It's about mag's role in Fibro, but still worth reading.
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that the best source is magnesium L-lactate dehydrate...sold as Mag tab SR.
He says that cal-mag tablets should not be relied on as they are not well absorbed.
With that said, I remember reading somewhere (can't remember where) that it was good to take mag glycinate, so that's what I take.
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Trace Minerals liquid is what I use.
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Mag Tabs to help restore Magnesium levels
Magnesium citrate or glycinate to use as a bowel mover
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I use a powder that mixes into a drink... it has a 2:1 ratio of calcium to magnesium in an ascorbic acid base. According to my research, this is the most bio-available way to take magnesium.
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2:1 calcium to magnesium is not always the optimum ratio for everyone. I find myself that I need more magnesium than that, otherwise the calcium binds up my guts. And someone with an EAV/ electrodermal screening machine told me that 1:1 is sometimes the best ratio depending on the situation.
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I was told only Magnesium Malate was effective??
I don't notice any difference with my heart issues but seems to upset my stomach.
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I was told to take magnesium citrate.
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How frustrating this is. I was excited to read this thread as I had the same question, but here at the end, there are so many different directions we have been told by our LLMD or others. So which is really the best if we are stuck with the oral form?
Lyme in hell...can you get your hands on transdermal or even IM Mag without a dr. script? I can't get even my LLMD to recognize the need. He claims orals are sufficient. He does sell some in his office, but they seem very overpriced so that is why I was looking through the suggestions here.
Thanks!
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To me, the best magnesium is simply what you can take without it causing a laxative effect.
As for absorption, oxide will be worst, while citrate/malate/glycinate will be decent, at around 20% bio-availability or so (if I remember right). While aspartate and lactate may be higher, at around 40%.
For myself, citrate causes laxative issues, while lactate (mag tab) is the most stomach friendly. So whatever feels best for you stomach-wise (as well as budget), may be best. Even oxide is absorbed, but you have to take more of it. Issue is, again, if you end up taking too much of certain forms, you may spend all of your time in the bathroom.
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Nutrmedix mag malate is the best IMO.
Works wonders on FM type pain and helps the cells communicate better.
Mag is needed for over 500 functions in the body so starving your body of this needed nutrient in hopes it will than in turn starve the bacteria is erroneous and foolish.
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This is really interesting. My first diagnosis was fibro so they tell you to take lots of magnesium. I tried alot of different brands over the years but it didn't make me feel better.
Then, I heard that it can feed some pathogens. Does anyone have any actual science to prove that? I looked but didn't find anything.
Anyway, I stopped taking it & haven't felt all that different. I take it ocassionally. I have a powdered one called Super Mag. It says to take 2 tsp but I usually just take 1 tsp. (as per dowsing).
The other option is to take baths in Epsom salt or use magnesium oil. I read it can be absorbed through the skin. This seems to make me feel better, at least.
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I sometimes take it and sometimes I don't. I might go weeks on it and then weeks not on it and I can't say that I see a huge difference either way.
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