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Have gallstones. Can have gallbladder removed. will this cause more loose stools/ or problems with antibiotics, if I remove it? how have others done without gallbladder? thanks
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it was my easiest surg and i have had no problems since
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all i can offer in advice is if you have stones already and not having the spasm pain.......you will start to get the pain.....and honestly that pain is the worst i have ever had.......no exageration........once you have one you will want them to take it out there and then.......
first time i thought i was having aheart attack.....once you have an attack you can feel it start and it builds and builds until it is unbearable........far far worse than c sections for me........also mine was central through to the back....
i can only offer that i would in an instant have it out.......surgery was fine 3 small keyhole surgery scars....only thing after for me was i felt like i couldnt digest meat properly until my body adjusted.......
as for effect on antibiotics i dont know....
you already have stones i would take it out......
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Here are some of the surgeries that didn't go well.
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Check out: sensiblehealth.com, there's some good info about gallstones & gallbladder problems.
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Why not focus on trying to cleanse/flush your gallbladder so you can keep it? Sure, you can live without it, but it's a pretty important organ.
I'd do anything I could to keep my gallbladder if it was me. There's some good liver flushes available that could help flush the stones out.
If you do a google search on this you'll find some good gallbladder flushes. My ND said the best flush for the gallbladder/liver was a three day fast of drinking extra virgin olive oil vinegar. He also said it helps remove parasites too. Seems harsh, and requires discipline, but he claims it works.
Hope you can save your gallbladder if at all possible.
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I had mine out 15 yrs back, wish i would have tried to keep it now with all the toxins and Lyme treatments going thru me.. I had a stone blocking my pacress or something and the medical team was more then ready to remove my gallbladder.. i believe today they deal with stones differantly. think of it as one less filter you will have.. and yes the pain brought me to my knees in tears. so has lyme, many thoughts and God's Will to lead you through this too... PS: i had 3 blood clots in my right leg a month ago, I know you are out there and it brings me a smile..., wayne
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Once you already have stones, isn't it dangerous to do a flush? I read that the stones can get stuck in ducts and then really cause serious problems, like infections, etc.
I would consult a doctor before doing a flush.
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I don't believe a flush is dangerous, but you do want to understand the process real well. Like doing a bowel cleanse first then parasite cleanse then liver -- I think that's the order -- its been a while. Improving kidney function best done with teas and tinctures.
Most of the time they'll pull the gall bladder out and there are no stones. In my mind, no reason to take it out in the first place. The only way they see stones is through ultrasound or x-ray. With an ultrasound they can see if there is fatty liver.
I did the flushes and the pain on my right side has been gone for sometime. I did multiple flushes, as I detoxified I kept having to do them, if felt anything in my right side, do a flush and it went away. I ended up doing 12 flushes in all. I guess that is how much I had to detoxify.
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one of the worst things i ever did in my life. left me with a serious problem with bile. cannot tolerate fatty foods.
then later the doctor told me "oh about 40 percent of my patients end up with this"...oh great, thanks doc.
i'd say save it at all costs.
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i wonder why it was so easy for me...anyone else have GOOD luck with it?
maybe damage is happeneing that i don't know aout yet
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I just got out of the hospital yesterday from gallbladder surgery. I have heard from about 20 people who had it out and it was a life changing experience, all POSITIVE, not one negative.
The gallbladder harbors lyme bacteria in it's walls and is a reservoir for infection. Lyme gravitates to the gallbladder.
I should have had mine out long ago. A surgeon mistakenly told me I didn't need to months ago.
You don't need your gallbladder. By the time I got to the surgeon's office this time I was in a life threatening situation. My bile duct was blocked by large stones, my gallbladder was full of stones, I had pancreatitis, I was so jaundiced I was yellow, I was in severe pain, and he sent me directly to the hospital without letting me even stop at home for my things.
I was there five days. My surgery was complicated and more extensive because things had gone too far. I was on IV antibiotics for five days inpatient. I am severely malnourished from 8 months of not being able to eat due to the constant nausea and digestive problems.
Flushes are extremely dangerous if you have stones. They can get lodged in your bile duct, as mine were, blocking off your liver and preventing it from functioning. You can die from this in a matter of days.
People go around touting how you can save your gallbladder, well you can't always, and the damage you can do to yourself while trying to can be serious. I followed the gallbladder diets, did the special drinks, took the supplements, and stopped short of the dangerous flushes because I already knew I had stones in the duct from my scan in Oct 10.
Was it worth getting to the point of such an imminent emergency situation? I had to go on Vitamin K shots to bring my Coumadin level down because the surgeon couldn't operate fast enough. The thing was about to explode. Never mind the entire state of my body, my nutritional status that will take months to correct. I'm a mess, home in much more pain than I should be from a surgery that was much more complicated than it should have been and a 5 day hospital stay for what most have as an outpatient procedure.
My very close friend who is a lyme literate acupuncturist had hers out two weeks before me. She treated herself with Chinese herbs, the best thing you can do, for a year and a half (she's also a Chinese herbalist.) It didn't work. She had to have surgery. She HATES Western medicine but she had to do it.
Don't be fooled into thinking you can always save your gallbladder. I had someone emailing me up to the night before my surgery pushing me to leave the hospital and go herbal. This person didn't have a clue. I was in a life threatening situation.
Sometimes, the diseased organ has to go, and frankly, when it's bad, you are getting rid of a reservoir for Lyme, and that may ultimately really help your overall health. My friend is experiencing a huge improvement in her allergies since she got her diseased gallbladder out.
Lyme is attracted to our gallbladders. I, for one, feel much better having that out of me.
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God bless Tracy and so glad the surgery is over and all is fine now. This may be the thing that pushes your lyme recovery along much faster.
Heal up and give yourself time to recoup..
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My daughter has been doing castor oil liver packs to open the liver, followed by mini flushes to flush it out. After 4 of each of these (about 2 weeks) she does a bile duct flush (on the third week).
She's done 3 cycles of these and 2 weekends ago on her 3rd bile duct flush, she flushed 30++ green stones (liver or gallbladder stones).
During the 4 day flush, she started having head pressure in the sinus area, stuffy/runny nose, sore throat w/ flem in her throat. This continued for the week.
About 3 days after the flush, she had pain in her abdomen. She was told that something was likely stuck and needed to come out and that the head stuff was also likely caused by the liver. She was told to do more liver packs followed by mini flushes.
So to show timing, the 3rd bile duct flush was Saturday 4/2, the pain was wed 4/6. She did a pack and mini flush on 4/6 and again on 4/7 and the pain stopped. She woke up on Sat. 4/9 and felt much better. She did another pack and mini flush on Sunday 4/10 and her head cleared up w/in the hour. No more running or pressure.
She is a new person! AND she still has her gallbladder!
I understand this is not a quick fix. It does take patience and consistancy, but it's been totally worth it. It's not hard to do and her health has improved so much. And hopefully we've saved her from having to have surgery in the future.
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I believe it is there for a reason. Fight to save it if you can.
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I had to have mine out after a few months of IV Rocephin.
That was 10 years ago.
I'm fine without it and am on abx.
Was an easy surgery and recovery.
You really don't need that organ... no side effects not having it.
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I had to have mine out after a few months of IV Rocephin.
That was 10 years ago.
I'm fine without it and am on abx.
Was an easy surgery and recovery.
You really don't need that organ... no side effects not having it.
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I had two gallbladder attacks in January, while on Rocephin. The second landed me in the ER.
My LLND advised me to try and save it - and we have been successful so far. She started me on Epsom salts, 1 tsp. am and pm. and the Moritz flush monthly.
If I started to feel like an attack might be starting, 1 Tbl. Epsom salts every hour.
I have been fine and have reintroduced everything (healthy) back into my diet except eggs. My one attempt with an egg for breakfast didn't go well. I no longer need the daily epsom salts, after three flushes.
My LLMD said some people do better without their gallbladder, but about 30% will not be able to eat a "typical American diet".
If you do a monthly flush, be sure to have a colonic afterwards (preferably beforehand too).
I think it is worth trying to save, but if you can't, you will probably be fine.
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I had my gallbladder out a long time ago, and good riddence! When I went for the ultra-sound test, the tech. told me my gallbladder was full of large stones. So in my case, no gallbladder flushes would have worked (and would have caused more pain, nausea, and may even have been dangerous). When it was removed, they told me it was very inflammed and full of large stones.
When I woke up from the surgery, 15 years of near-constant nausea was gone. I also had normal colored BM's for the first time in years. And I was able to eat fats again without vomiting (had to go slowly, eating too much fat all at once within a few months after surgery brought on some pretty nasty indigestion).
I had only one painful attack; the rest were nausea/vomiting type symptoms, but I was unable to connect the symptoms to any particular foods until I started experimenting with elimination diets and re-challenging certain foods.
Anyone with gallbladder problems should be aware that it is not just fats that can stimulate gallbladder attacks or symptoms, but also ginger, broccoli, raw vegetables, and some herbs can also trigger symptoms.
I do not miss my gallbladder, and I have not had problems with diarrhea or anything else they warned me about since the surgery. I am very glad I had mine out. Also, I used to have a lot of problems with a hiatal hernia, and with my ileal-cecal valve getting stuck open, but since the surgery these things have become distant memories...
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flipping quarters ? be your own, call heads.. out it comes... tails it stays.. hope you are safe and sound in the meanwhile.
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You may not need your gallbladder to live but as already stated, it's there for a reason.
Personally I would try to save it if at all possible. I would find someone who has expertise with this like a Naturopathic Doctor who has experience with gallbladders.
Lyme can infect the wall of the gallbladder and cause chronic inflammation. This appears to happen with increased frequency when there is also evidence of Salmonella infection.
In the past most gallbladder disease was related to gall stones. There has been a change. Most patients with gallbladder disease no longer have stones; they have chronic inflammation of the gallbladder.
Patients with gallbladder disease have recurrent bouts of abdominal pain which starts out mild but gradually builds up to severe pain. The pain may be located in the right upper abdomen or be generalized to the entire abdomen.
Nausea and vomiting may occur. In the past doctors have ordered a sonogram to evaluated the gallbladder. When the problem is related to infection this test will be normal. The diagnosis is made with a nuclear medicine scan called a HIDA scan, with the administration of a hormone called CCK. The hormone injection will likely cause the symptoms to recur and the test will showed a low ejection fraction, indicating abnormal functioning of the gallbladder.
Generally, successful treatment requires removal of the gallbladder which can be done with a minimally invasive laparoscope. The fact that intravenous Rocephin is known to cause gallbladder attacks may suggest that this is a sort of Herxheimer reaction involving a gallbladder which is already infected with Lyme bacteria.
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apparently i was not so lucky. i have sphincter of oddi dysfunction.
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quote:Originally posted by randibear: apparently i was not so lucky. i have sphincter of oddi dysfunction.
Me too randi - stabbing pain, never goes away. Acidophillus helps some.
I sometimes think the sphincter of oddi is a cop out for - I don't know what it is, this is what I am guessing. Even though they confirmed it with a scope.
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You've been through so much. I'm sorry to hear that you are suffering with gallbladder symptoms too.
In my opinion, if you are even considering having it removed then you must be sick enough to really need the surgery.
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The gall bladder is an organ that collects bile, like a balloon, and is triggered upon mechanism no-one quite understands. But when triggered it is released in mass quickly to immediately digest all fats and proteins and alkalize the food prior to going into the small intestine.
Without it you just drip bile into the small intestine. If you don't do it in mass it makes more difficult for the body to deal with candida over growth. Initially you will feel completely well. Over time it affects digestion and can lead to pancreatitis for some, this can happen anywhere from 5 to 30 years. According to a member who was here, he had this done and it took several years before symptoms appeared and he now has to constantly treat for pancreatitis. The gall bladder the pancreas help to alkalize the acid from the stomach and to further break down food.
So consider the affects of gall bladder surgery may not be immediate. But could be an impact overtime.
I tried to help someone to save theirs but it wasn't possible and they had to undergo surgery. They still have some of the same symptoms just not as severe. Hopefully she'll be able to reduce these symptoms by continuing to do flushes.
I think surgery should always be the last step not the first. It really depend on how much pain, if the pain is severe then you may have no choice. You'll have to be the best judge of what is best for you.
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yeah, most people don't believe in sod let alone doctors. it took 7 specialists before i got one that would believe me.
like lyme, it's very hard to pinpoint. symptoms are exactly like a gallbladder attack. that's why they thought i was crazy cause i didn't have a gallbladder.
but you'll read that there are alot of people with this so it's not really uncommon at all.
and you're so right. symptoms don't show up for years.
i'm glad tracy is doing well and all the people who have had no problems. they are lucky.
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"My LLMD said some people do better without their gallbladder, but about 30% will not be able to eat a "typical American diet"."
isn't the typical american diet what is killing all of us?
maybe that is why i seem to be able to eat anything. anything i want. but i want unprocessed.
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Exactly...the "typical American diet" is not what any of us should be eating! I take that to mean only 30 percent will be able to chow down at Mickey D's every other day, lol!!! Compared to 0% beforehand.
17hens, I'd have tried what you are doing in the past 8 months had I seen it then. I was desperate for any relief but overwhelmed by some of the information. I did use www.gallbladderattack.com a lot and followed the diet there religiously, and the tips. Also read over CureZone but got overwhelmed there.
I wonder though if some of that would help me now, with my liver and pancreas being so messed up? And my bile duct, which just got scraped all to heck? I was lucky to avoid the ERCP second surgery because the surgeon was able to get the stones out during the first surgery. But things are pretty beat up in there, and I'm sure very toxic and awful from the months of damage.
I didn't even mention that because of my myasthenia gravis, the anesthesiologist had warned me I might wake up still intubated and on a vent. Because you have to be intubated for surgery, with myasthenics it can be hard to come off the vent sometimes due to the weakness in the breathing muscles. So I was really nervous going into surgery about that. I was so grateful to wake up in the recovery room and not ICU!!! That was all I was thinking about. I am not a huge worrier, but I have never had anesthesia since I've had MG. I couldn't pee for a day and a half from it, but I was able to restart my breathing on my own....WINNING!
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Got mine out 5 years ago due to rocephin. Rocephin got me out of trouble a few times before, thought it would be my treatment for life. Unfortunately, stopped working on me and now doing teas. Who knew. Had no problems taking it out, except I did too much activity right after and ended with a hernia surgery again a few mos after.
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I had to have mine out becuse in addition to some stones [one got stuck in the bile duct],it was diseased. As the gall bladder is a favourite place for the bacteria to hang out, I assume that Lyme had something to do with that.
Both the first op to clear the bile duct and the keyhole op. went fine and I had a quickish recovery, especially considering my poor state of health.
It does not appear to have affected my digestion much either way,
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I had mine out 5 years ago and can eat whatever I want. Now, I do eat gluten free and mostly unprocessed foods anyway. When I do have a lot of french fries, for example, I am fine.
I'm on abx and don't notice a problem.
I was told I had stones per the sonogram and needed to have it out. At the time, I was having some pain. My pain was not so bad that I thought I needed to do something quickly, but I wanted to avoid the blocked duct problem so I went ahead with it. When the surgeon removed it, there were no stones. And I still had the pain every now and then.
So I think they took my gallbladder by mistake. Luckily, I haven't noticed any difference.
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Tracy, what's the saying? Hindsight is 20/20?
I've been trying to get my mom to consider doing these packs and flushes as she had a gallbladder attack that landed her in the hospital last year.
So far "it's too much doing." Maybe you could let her borrow your eyes for awhile?
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I am a new lymie, Please someone Help me.... Lately, I have been having problems eating [its been a week and a half now].... Every time I eat, no matter how small the meal is, vegetable, fruits, no matter what..I get back pains, & stabbing like sensations. It travels from my lower back cavity to my middle and between my shoulder blades. It last for hours and then subsides or dont go away and lasts all day. I went to the ER and blood tests were only ran and everything came back normal. However no ultrasound was done. Does this sound to anyone like gallstones, gb problems, liver? pancreas? Anyone out there please tell me what the heck could be going on. I have only been on doxy a month and now ceftin a week and a half.
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brownlymie,
I dont' know the answer to your question. Sorry.
But if you start a new post with your question, I think more people would see it and hopefully be able to help you out.
I hope the pain subsides for you very soon.
Take care, Hens
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Brownlymie, it could be your gallbladder. I would make an appt with a GI doctor ASAP!
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Have them check your kidneys. Upper back is usually liver, the kidneys are located in the middle back spine. Get a picture of the body and where the kidneys are located. You might have some kidney stones. Kidney stones can cause pain from the kidneys to the ducts leading to the bladder.
google oxalates and kidney stones and see a doctor who is qualified to determine your kidneys integrity. When you google see if the symptoms match.
It's still possible to be liver or gall bladder as tracy said but more likely the kidneys. Based soley on where you said you had pain at least from what I remember.
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Pain between the shoulder blades can be caused by the gallbladder. I had pain between my shoulder blades when I still had my full-of-stones gallbladder...
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Product called Stone Free
I recommend it
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When i worked with the public in healthfood stores, I found that many (not all, but to repeat again yes many) people with gallbladder removal operations, ended up with a lot of food allergies and other weaknesses they had not had before.
The gallbladder concentrates bile from the liver, which breaks down fats and cholesterols. So it's needed for fat metabolism.
No way can I ever advise anybody what to do or what not to do. That is only for a doctor to advise and considerations are so individualized. If someone recommended something that in your situation was not the right thing *for you* to do, then what? And of course it all depends on the severity of the matter at hand.
But to make an informed decision is key, yes and I agree.
I would suggest reading the book Natural Therapy for your Liver (at Amazon's site) for maintenance, regardless of whether or not you get it taken out.
There also are gallbladder flushes and other information of importance in the book.
Maybe it's available at the local library so you could get it more quickly? Sounds like you probably need immediate access to information.
For the rest, no matter what you should be under a doctor's care.
If you are interested in naturopathic ways to tackle this prior to undergoing surgery, you could look for a naturopathic doctor here www.naturopathic.org
I hope things improve for you soon! Best wishes, CI
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burnsjw.. big hug
still here with you - be couragous, be brave.. trust yourself... put your feet on solid ground and believe. I look out my window and know, WE, see the same skies,moon,sun... easy to pray for you... RECIEVE. rest well, wayne
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thanks everyone. My arm is still in fill cast. may have to have a pin in it. I am starting to worry about arm more than gallbladder now. wish some of you were closer to me. I could use someone for rides. just once in a while. I am ready for easier times. thanks again. thanks a lot..
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I had mine out nearly 3 years ago. I've been fine since then - can't eat a lot of fat (but who needs to).
i feel a ton better and am glad I had it done. There was a stone in there that was 1 inch in diameter - a flush would have done nothing but potentially caused me a LOT of problems, so be careful.
-------------------- dx: MS in 1998 2007 - Lyme suspected 2009 - Positive Lyme, MS worse. Now: Copaxone shots for MS gall bladder out 7/09 Ceftin, Zith, Septra LDN Acyclovir Monolaurin, DHEA, Pregnonelon, Curcumin Posts: 243 | From New Mexico | Registered: Feb 2007
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payne
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burnsjw... ""wish some of you were closer to me. I could use someone for rides. just once in a while. I am ready for easier times. thanks again. thanks a lot"" I too wish we had a better local support - some of us can affort small task to be out of the pocket... yet, there is local support, as in I have a local support transportation - they call it the Blue Bus, I rode it home from the hospital after all others were tried, i got there by amb/ ER, the blue bus/van picked me up right at the hosp and after a few stops to pick up others and drop off some, I got dropped off right at my door for 2.50 cents... it wouldve cost me 8 bucks in gas.. yes, it was basic transportation, but, in my pinch was a real blessing... we, Lyme members don't seem to fall into this group of disabed 50-70% of time, so, meals on wheels and senior runs and errons don't fit well, and TRUST, there would be a lack of trusting any o body coming in and doing what Family should/could/ or can do... We need more like a lyme group support within our coumunities, a network of lyme friends, sometimes i can drive, or clean, even sit and help gather our lives... Burnsjw, just needs a moral and physical support locally.. as many of us, a boost, not a maid that cost 100's ... I can only add that I hope the family comes through with the boost, the hand, the we care, a knock at your door, and a muture person saying how can we help you ? I, myself have worn out my grown kids and friends are avoiding me, family, well, we all know have their lives too... the coumunity help is focased on 100% disabled folks, near nursing home types... I just need a boost... we, are here in spirit and wisdom to guide, and seek words to help... I wish I myself could knock at your door and say together we can get through this... Gee, just giving a break to a parent/ a mom/a dad/loved one so, some fresh sights and sounds can lift their comfidance. but, in this day and age our trust is in question... Its not about just hiring a house keeper... it about have a homecare partner. Remember God is with you... He will provide. hope your health and mind grows stronger. wayne
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sammy
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burnsjw, I wish I lived close to you. I can't do much but I can drive sometimes if needed. I could come sit with you and we would keep each other company. *Hugs*
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