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Congrats James on getting started! I'm glad it went well for you and is helping! I'll be getting started this weekend, so you have helped pave the way Posts: 232 | From Oregon | Registered: May 2010
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Dang, LymeAware. I didn't realize you were going to diss me so bad like that. Here I thought you were going to go first, but in reality you were just waiting for me to test if the process is safe!
Did anyone notice better spinal posture after a couple of days of coffee enemas? For some reason my walking and standing posture has been great, and this has happened naturally - without any effort. Of course it might have been from something besides the CE, but I'm wondering if anyone else noticed the same thing shortly after starting CEs, and if there might be a logical explanation for this.
My posture has been pretty crappy ever since I caught Lyme, due to the muscular problems and just overall weakness and fatigue. Today it's been better than ever! I feel very healthy now.
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Hmm...now this thread is making me want to get the stuff for the CE!
I've been the castor oil packs and mini flush protocol that 17hens posted a bit back. It has been going really well!
Maybe I'll give the CE a whirl too.
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LOL Oh James... you are hilarious. No dissing was intended. I knew I wouldn't be starting until this weekend -- though perhaps I didn't mention that, huh?
Though if I tell you that the reason I was waiting was because I had a colonic on Monday, does that help? I'm testing the waters all at once it seems!
I'll join you soon. More strength in your posture sounds wonderful! Great sign!
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quote:Originally posted by James1979: hens, what does the "32Fr" mean in the 30" silicone tubing that you use?
I believe it refers to the width of the tubing.
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This is my third day of CEs, and I feel GREAT!!! Not only I don't feel like I have Lyme anymore, but I feel even better than before I ever got Lyme!!! (I'm still taking abx for another couple of months, btw).
I have so much energy now, that I don't know what work to begin first! I feel like I can do anything now. The problem is that I'm behind on everything, so I don't know which one to tackle first.
Also, my heart feels very happy and healthy inside my chest.
I'm curious to see if my blood still looks black the next time I get blood drawn. It would be so cool if the color lightened up due to CEs! Also I'm curious if it will lower my liver enzymes.
Please, if you are suffering and you haven't yet tried CEs... PLEASE TRY THEM! They are so awesome! The only annoying thing is the amount of time they take. It probably takes me about 45 minutes altogether. But I spend that time on my back reading a book, so it's relaxing and beneficial as well.
Isn't it worth it to spend 45-60 minutes every day doing a therapy, in order to feel good for the remaining hours of the day?
Also, in answer to my original question with which I started this thread: No, they are not messy. The first time - maybe. But very quickly you learn tricks to make it a clean and easy process. Technically, the entire body ends up much cleaner after the CE, so the answer is: "No, they're not messy... they're very cleansing!"
Now I have just one remaining question: Does anyone know where I can buy a bumper sticker that says: "Have you had your coffee enema today?" The chicks really dig that stuff! (just kidding!)
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That's awesome James! Wow! Wonderful news. I'm so glad for you.
You are definitely inspiring me.
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I'm glad they're working so well, James! I found that Hulda Clark liver cleanses worked great, too, and though they take longer, the results last more than a week. Eventually, when my liver was "clean", the toxic feeling didn't come back.
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Have you guys ever done a gallbladder cleanse? That's my newest fetish now! I'm reading a book about it.
Six - I'm gonna look up Hulda Clark. But "Hulda" has to be the ugliest name I've ever heard! (No offense to all the Huldas who are reading this.)
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Well, she was really old, it's an old name. She died a year or two ago. Her liver cleanse gets the gallstones. It's amazing. If the coffee enemas make you feel THAT good, I'd bet the liver cleanse would, too, especially if you're feeling drawn to them anyway.
They make a coffee enema look normal, LOL! Let me have a glass of olive oil and grapefruit juice right before bed after a day of fasting and epsom salts, mmmmm.
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Six - I was just kidding about her name being ugly. May God rest her soul.
BTW I'm looking her up right now, and I just noticed she's featured on Quackwatch! Sweeeet! This must mean her therapy is very effective! Now I'm super excited.
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I def. would be very interested! Let us know (:
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LOL, James! And I knew you were kidding .... I forgot to litter my post with graemlins since my tone of voice doesn't work here, haha.
And the therapy is very effective!! I hated doing them, but I loved how I felt for a week or two afterward. I still did the coffee enemas, and I'd see more stones with those after a cleanse. Eventually, when I stopped seeing stones and only had a small amount of sludge, I stopped doing them.
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Hello again all... So, I followed in your footsteps over the weekend, James.
This was only my first one, so hopefully it will become easier over time. But, somehow for me, it did feel quite messy. I know you've all talked about this already, but how do you keep it from feeling messy?
I did mine in the bathtub. Wasn't able to hold it the whole 15 minutes. After more like 9 minutes, it was starting to come out on its own and it didn't matter how much I tried to hold it in in order to get to the toilet in time.
Does it become easier to hold in over time?
I'll be continuing these, as my doctor prescribed them at certain intervals. But, just wondered if I'm missing something?
Also, have others done these when quite ill? It really took a lot of work/effort when I'm feeling this weak -- and I even had my husband's help (oh joy for him )
I usually can't shower more than once a week due to weakness, so to go through the work of the enema itself, and then also shower was pretty exhausting.
It gets easier over time? Thanks so much.
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My dear LymeAware, YES, it does become easier over time! I promise. If it doesn't become easier for you the next few times, I'll buy you and your husband some coffee (for drinking!) if I run into you at a protest.
The first time I did it, it felt very strange for me. The body has to get used to the feelings of the liquid going in you, and has to get used to holding it in. For me, it became a lot easier on the 2nd and 3rd tries.
Are you making sure you coffee is at body temperature? I think this helps a lot. Too warm or too cold can cause extra uncomfortability.
It might help you if you lie on your right side instead of your back. I'm going to try today for my first time lying on my right side. It allows the liquid to go further down the colon.
I was a little confused about this, since I thought we weren't supposed to let the liquid go higher up in the colon... But the Gerson Therapy book says to lie on the right side and let it go deep. If figure: "If those people are curing cancer with this method - I'm sure it can't be bad."
Also make sure that the enema bag/bucket isn't too high. You might want to try lowering it a little to slow down the process. Also, it helps to stop the liquid flow any time you feel uncomfortable, and then let the body relax for a minute or two. Then when you feel comfortable again you can start the flow.
Good luck with your treatment!! And don't you worry... it WILL get easier! The beginning of everything is always difficult.
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Thank you for your support James. It means a great deal. Sometimes just knowing that someone else has done this, and knows the ropes, is a great comfort.
It's interesting about the positioning. My doctor's directions were to lay on my left side for 5 minutes, then my back for 5 minutes, then finally my right side for 5 minutes, before expelling. It was when I was on my back that things got uncomfortable, so that would seem to fit with what you are saying.
I think I'll continue trying their directions a few times, and if it's still an issue, I may just switch to my right side when things start to feel difficult. Seems like it's more important to hold it longer, rather than to have all those positions correct.
I'm rotating between coffee enemas and colonics, so I feel like I'm used to the feeling. But, it certainly is a different experience with the enemas.
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The first two coffee enemas I did, I followed the same directions as you, LymeAware, and I had problems too.
Then I checked with my DD's nurse who said she lays on her left for the insert and then rolls right to her right side for 15 minutes or so.
She also said that if your bowels start cramping, it helps to cup your hand and gently "slap" where the cramp is. Do it until the cramping subsides.
These two things have helped me the most.
Glad you've joined the CE club! It's worth it!
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I just thought I'd add my experiences, as I just did my first CE is weekend. It went pretty smoothly, although I could only hold it about 12 minutes. I follow the Gerson Book instructions, and I think they say it's important not to strain to hold it in, just get more comfortable over time with the sensations and it will be easier to hold it longer. 15 minutes seems like the most time they recommend anyway, with all the caffeine being absorbed by 12 minutes in.
The stainless bucket/silicone tube kit I ordered on Amazon came with a 5-6" tip that seems like a good compromise. It also came with a much longer tube, but that makes me a bit nervous - surely a quart of water will flow fairly far up the colon if infused 6" in, right? Although I trust what 17Hens' nurse is saying, she seems to have tons of experience.
So glad I tried it too... I'm glad there's a thread devoted to coffee enemas - like James said, who would have thought a year ago I would be doing them? But honestly it's no big deal after you get over our society's hang-ups about our backsides.
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To add to my above post, the advice I really wanted to give LymeAware (and completely forgot as I started writing yesterday but remembered when I woke up this morning - go figure) was that it might help to use 1/2 the quart, expel and then use the other 1/2.
Obviously this takes twice as much time, but it's better than not being able to get the whole amount in at all or having to expel too soon.
I've found the 2nd half is much easier to keep in and works wonders for me. I think eventually I'll be able hold the whole quart at once but not now. Not yet. Don't fight it, just work with your body.
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Thanks, anemone, for that link. Very cool, and I enjoyed looking through other section of Gerson's site too. FYI for others trying to click through, you need to delete the period at the end of the link to have it go through. This should work:
It's nice to hear more about why the CEs are so good -- helps keep motivation up! And, I'm glad you are giving them a try too. It's nice to know others are in this process.
I did my second CE last night and, as promised, it was a bit easier than the first. I don't know if I'll ever grow to love doing them, but perhaps it won't be quite such a big deal. It was less messy too. Still exhausted from the process, but I'm quite weak so I suppose that is to be expected.
17 Hens, your advice is really helpful. Thanks so much for sharing. I think starting on the left side and then moving to the right side sounds good, and like a reasonable compromise to the instructions my doc gave. Interesting that you had the same instructions and moved on to doing it that way.
Last night I hadn't read your post yet so I started on my left side, and did the 5 minutes fine there. Then moved to my back where I was really struggling after 2.5 minutes. Instead of getting up, I decided to try my right side and did find things were a bit easier there. So, maybe that's a good way to go.
Glad to hear about the light slapping too...I'll give that a try.
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I remember reading (maybe on another coffee enema thread?) that someone did an enema and the coffee never came back out.
I'm trying to find the response to that, as it just happened to me...
Where did it go???? The coffee, I mean!
Also, does anyone make the coffee the night before? It takes so long to cool! If so, can you leave it covered on the counter so it stays room temp?
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That happens.....it's a sign of not drinking enough fluids
It's ok to make the night before, then I put it in the fridge. If I need to make coffee for use right away I put it in the freezer to cool it down.
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Hens - also the Gerson Therapy book has a recipe for making 5 batches at a time using a concentrated solution - that way you only have to boil the water once.
I can copy the recipe here for you if you request.
BTW - it was me who had the problem of the coffee not coming out, and it was in this thread here. That was only after my first time. I don't think that ever happened to me again.
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quote:Originally posted by James1979: BTW - it was me who had the problem of the coffee not coming out, and it was in this thread here. That was only after my first time. I don't think that ever happened to me again.
Oops, scanned the thread and didn't see it. That's why I was so shocked - I've been doing these for a few months and it just happens now?
Yes, I'd love for you to copy the recipe. I've been cooking and cooking and it takes so much time!
Lauralyme, so, not enough fluids? OK, thank you!! I will drink more! How long would you say it takes to warm up after being in the fridge? Just so I can plan my day...
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This is my gift to all my coffee enema pimps out there.
I plagiarized it from the "Gerson Therapy" book.
------------- HOW TO MAKE COFFEE CONCENTRATE To concentrate coffee for later use as a dilution, use a fairly large pot and perhaps 2.5 to 3 quarts of water. Here is how to make coffee concentrate:
1) When the water boils, add 15 rounded tbsp of organic drip-grind coffee. Since each enema should contain the equivalent of 3 tbsp of coffee, using 15 tbsp will give you enough coffee concentrate for five enemas.
2) Bring the solution back to a boil for a few minutes, then let it simmer for about fifteen minutes and then strain.
3) Divide the resulting concentrate into five equal portions. (You can put equal amounts into five equal 1-quart bottles.)
4) Then fill the bottle to the full quart with distilled water for use.
5) If you need to modify the coffee enema with chamomile tea as we have already explained, you can add a pint of tea to the coffee concentrate.
6) Finally, fill up the container with enough water to make a full quart. Before using this mixture, heat it to body temperature.
7) Mix 2 raw chicken livers with 1 can of albacore tuna, and feed it to your cat on a Monday. This final step is optional. (How did that get in there?) -------------
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Thank you! I will need to buy another fridge just to hold my coffee enemas!
And I will say it again... James, you CRACK ME UP!!!
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Excuse me please, I have to do my CE right now (to remove all the "you know what")!
What a horrible article. The sad thing is that the majority of Americans will accept those lies as truths, because they are that gullible.
I always say: "Don't knock it till you tried it."
Maybe we could send an e-mail to the authors of that article, trying to persuade them to put coffee in their butts? You think that'll work?
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quote:Originally posted by 17hens: I can hold the 2nd 1/2 for the full 15 minutes but still not the 1st. Maybe I'm getting air in the tube? Anyone dealing with air?
I've never found air to be a problem, but I'm very careful to empty out all the air before I begin. Sometimes I even drip a little coffee on the ground in an attempt to make sure all the air gets out.
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quote:Originally posted by James1979: I'm very careful to empty out all the air before I begin
OK, so how do you do that? (I know, dumb question, but try to indulge me?)
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I don't know how James does it, but this is what I've been doing:
- Close thc tube clamp and fill the bag/bucket with coffee.
- Slowly open the clamp to allow the coffee to come down the tube until it's to the very end (perhaps a tiny bit comes out the end), and immediately close the clamp again.
It took my husband suggesting this to me, since I was thinking that the coffee in the tube below the clamp would just pour down the drain, but the air pressure keeps it in mostly.
It's like when you have a glass of water with a straw. When you put your finger on one end, it magically holds the water from pouring out the other end.
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LymeAware: Well... that's not exactly how I remove the air, but I guess your method will work as well.
I've never in my life told anyone how I remove the air from the coffee enema tubes. It's like way too personal for me, you know?
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James, you "crack" me up! Oh, sorry, that was bad...
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quote:Originally posted by 17hens: James, you "crack" me up! Oh, sorry, that was bad...
I've been wondering: Does anybody ever put probiotics in their coffee solution?
It seems like it would be very logical, but I've never heard of it being done. I almost did it today, but then I thought it'd be better to hear an answer first.
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Hi all: I thought I would come back to our original thread (there are a lot of CE threads popping up lately!) to give an update. I waited awhile to share this, so that I could be as sure as possible of things and to get some energy to post, but here's the deal...
I started doing coffee enemas and coffee suppositories around the same time. A few days after starting, my seizures increased dramatically. For the previous few months I usually had been having 2-3 seizures each week for 3-5 minutes each.
The first week after starting the coffee, my seizures increased to every day, usually 3-4 times per day...a total of about 20-40 minutes per day.
Thinking I was herxing from something else or needing some help with toxins, I increased the frequency of the coffee enemas and suppositories, and the seizures increased further. I had atleast 1 1/2 hrs of seizures each day for that next week -- one day was just under 3 hours.
It took awhile for the idea to strike that I could be having a reaction to the coffee. But, once my husband suggested it (I was incredibly doubtful), I decided to stop doing the enemas and suppositories and see what happened. 5-6 days later the seizures dropped out dramatically and went back to where they had been before.
Nothing is certain and I can't say for sure what it was, but I'm pretty sure that I was having a reaction to the coffee. In all my reading I've only ever heard of people having reactions where they felt "wiry" or jittery after an enema, and I certainly never felt that way. After doing them, I felt about the same, just with the usual fatigue that would accompany any activity. But, it seemed to affect things on this other level for me.
I had a phone consult with my doctor after all the seizure activity and she agreed that I was probably having a reaction to the coffee. My liver has a very hard time keeping up with the rest of me, so she seemed to think this made some sense that perhaps I can't deal with the coffee right now.
The other thing she mentioned is that parasites like to hang out in the gallbladder and liver, and it's possible that the coffee was stirring things up in that area...so that even though it would usually be helpful, the parasites were unhappy and letting me know it! (I've just started a parasite treatment by the way, so we may see if I still react to the coffee in the future once the parasites have been dealt with.)
So, I'm going to steer clear of coffee for awhile. My doctor suggested castor oil packs, and also doing other enemas -- she mentioned lemon enemas actually. Haven't started those yet, but probably in the next few weeks I will.
With all this said, I do want to say that I'm still an advocate of coffee enemas. From everything I've read and heard from others I think they are a really great component to a detox protocol. My doctor said that it's very rare for someone to have this kind of reaction to the coffee -- I just happen to be one of those few
Also wanted to mention more about those suppositories in case anyone is interested, as I haven't heard others discuss them. They are called, "xeneplex", and you can find info if you google that.
They're very easy to use and can be an easier option when an enema isn't feasible, or you don't have the energy for a full enema. My doc felt that they weren't quite as helpful as a full enema, but still a great thing to do when you can't do an enema for whatever reason. They didn't cause me to have a BM, just gently helped with detox.
So, that's my (longer than intended) update. Hope it doesn't put other people off from trying the coffee enemas, but also felt it was important to share. It took us a long time to realize this was what was happening for me, since everyone else just feels so good with the enemas!
Good luck to everyone, and I hope your healing process is going smoothly and deepening your wellness.
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Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the CEs! I'm so sorry to hear about your seizures. I've never had a seizure before in my life, and I can't imagine how horrible it must be to have them on a weekly basis. I hope you can find a solution for that soon.
Listen, you can still be in the Coffee Enema Club, because of your valiant effort and your open-mindedness.
Maybe one day the seizures will go away, and you'll be able to do coffee enemas all day long!
"When you get in a tight place and everything goes against you till it seems as though you could not hold on a minute longer, never give up then, for that is just the time and the place the tide will turn." - Harriet Beecher Stowe
I swear she was doing an enema when she wrote that.
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My husband tried CE's for awhile, but says he doesn't feel better afterwards. His intestines feel crampy and uncomfortable.
This was before we knew he had Lyme.
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Question: Is it better to do a coffee enema with a full quart of coffee at one time, or is it better to do it with 2 cups only, 2 times in a row?
I'm finding conflicting information about this on the internet, but most sources seem to say that it is a low-volume enema which should only stay in the sigmoid colon. Gerson, though, was saying to do the full quart. So which is right? Is one way more beneficial than the other?
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But if it stays in the sigmoid colon, isn't it then something that cleans/flushes the colon rather than something that reaches the liver to promote glutathione production?
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My dear hen, thank you so much for responding.
That was a good question, but the entry to the liver from the colon is not in the area of the colon nearest to the liver (which would be upper-right quadrant).
You see, nutrients that are absorbed into the body from higher up in the colon don't actually pass through the liver. Such nutrients pass directly into the bloodstream and circulate throughout the body.
On the other hand, by the time the fecal material reaches the end of the colon, (or the sigmoid colon), it contains many products of putrefaction. It would be dangerous for the body to directly absorb these substances. That's why the body has a special circulatory system, called the enterohepatic circulatory system, which carries the substances through the liver for detoxification. It's really a beautiful thing.
So basically these enterohepatic veins at the end of the colon are what absorb the nutrients of the coffee and send them directly to the liver, which causes all kinds of crazy cool stuff to happen. Since the coffee is only absorbed at the end of the colon, that's why some people say that you only need enough coffee (1 or 2 cups) to fill the sigmoid colon, because that's where all the action's at.
But then I wonder: Why then did the famous Gerson, who started all this coffee-enema craze, say that 1 quart is most beneficial? Also by laying on the right side, as he recommended, it would send the coffee further down into the colon, much further than the sigmoid area.
I wonder if the colon's natural peristaltic action of the smooth muscles would continue circulating "fresh" coffee from earlier in the colon to the sigmoid area, thus constantly providing a fresh source of caffeine during the 15-minute enema. I've been wondering about this for a few days now, but I can't find an answer.
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I want to say, for the record, that SixGoofyKids is absolutely right!
I've been doing my enemas with the tube inserted about 3 inches (rather than 6 or 12 or whatever freakish number I did before) for the last week and the results are much, much, much better!
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LOL! I laughed so much when I read your post, hens!
It wasn't "6 or 12" inches... it was much longer!
Here's what you wrote a couple of months ago:
quote:Colon Tube � A 30 inch colon tube, size FR22 or FR28 is required. The 2 inch enema nozzle that usually comes with the enema bag is insufficient for the high enema.
LOOOL! 30 inches!
I'm laughing super hard about this, but I wonder if I'm laughing a lot because I'm tired. Does anybody else think this is funny?
Aaah, Hens... you teased me so much in the past, now it's my turn to tease you too.
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I know! Can you believe I actually did 30" the first few times? What was I thinking???? True lyme head! (But it actually was quite easy - I must have a "stick straight" colon!)
Then I checked w/ DD's nurse and she said, "WHat? 30"? Where did you get that idea?" Oh my goodness, you know it's not good when you startle your practitioner!!
After than I reduced to 6ish but this 2-3 works sooo much better! I just feel the improvement as I'm laying there.
I hope the laughter (at my expense) is helping make your day. That makes it all worthwhile for me, Friend. (Are you finding it hard now to laugh at someone offering you love? )
-------------------- "My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever." Psalms 73:26
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Re: your last question: No, I still laughed.
When I ordered my stainless steel enema kit from Amazon, it also came with this long skinny tube. I couldn't figure out what it was for, but then I guessed that it was the kind of tube you were referring to. I think it was called a "catheter" or something like that.
Why would anybody use a long tube like that? Is it good for flushing "fecaliths" and other such obstructions higher up in the colon? Would it be mostly useless for most of us here?
I've never taken my catheter out of the bag, and I just put it in storage. I would just like to know if I would ever use it in the future, or if I should just toss it out right now.
Actually, I bet my cat would love to play with it! It's a shame if I don't put it to good use.
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