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Robin123
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Six, didn't you read above that dogsandcats was giving me a bird? It has arrived - ie, has been successfully adopted -

Re your question about what kind of bird, it's small, not messy or noisy, and involves no expense. It's actually the easiest kind of bird to keep.

Am still getting acquainted with it, but it appears to be possibly hungry all the time, or might be exhibiting a pinch of an OCD personality -

And...it's a young bird, at this point in time, not old, like some entities mentioned above...

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Tincup
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Woah!

Want to stop me in my tracks? Then threaten me with this, like the moderators did- you know, those really old ones- and I will have to cry "Uncle" and toss in the towel! Threats like this really knock me down!

Goofy said... "And when you hurt us, you are taking over for us, right?!?!"

[Eek!]

No, no, no! Anything but that!

[lol]

And PS to Dogs/Cats.... thank you for being so sweet! What a lovely moderator you are!

Now it's off to Talladega Baby!

[Big Grin]

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Robin.....I gave you the best bird I had..he is a good bird, he won't fly away. He will be handy for you to have around if the need arises.

TC.....don't feel bad about being old. I get AARP mail...and my son signs me up for all the free trials-snore guards, scooter store etc....

Sing along with me "everything is beautiful..."

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sixgoofykids
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You better not hurt us then, TC!!!! Otherwise there will be NO ONE left to moderate!!! Dogsandcats is new, she would need an old timer's help!! [Big Grin]

Robin .... OHHHHHH .... I get it now!! That is the perfect bird!!!!

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Robin... yes, your bird has OCD .. quite evident!

Tincup....we will try to forgive you. [Wink]

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Robin123
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I just hope my bird has OCD naturally, rather than exhibiting any Lyme OCD. I prefer to have adopted a tickless bird.

I have just returned a couple months later to name my bird OCcupieD, in honor of its condition and the movement.

Tincup, am wondering whether you need to add another site, www.IcemanLyme.org?

[ 12-11-2011, 05:09 PM: Message edited by: Robin123 ]

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Birds naturally have OCD.

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I'm confused now - is iceman the oldest lymie around at 5300 years old or can some of the mods on lymenet beat it!!?? lol

Please don't ban me as euro lyme is pretty bad!

Just found some more on this published today, I find this very interesting!
Nature - The Iceman 24th Oct 2011

Sound like they found the borrelia in a sample of hip bone - I know one hip was damaged getting iceman out of the ice.

The test was a DNA test on the sample using:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_genome_sequencing

I guess we could have the same test if we could provide a tissue sample?

Also, are the tattoos here marking lyme pain spots for ongoing treatment!??

Iceman Photoscan

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I'm not as old as the iceman however...

after backtracking my physical history I can

honestly attest to tick fever causeing my lower

limbs to be paralyzed in 1954. Symptoms I was

forced to put up with since a doc treated

my "TICK FEVER" with IM penicillin back in 54

were degenerative(lyme) arthritis, migraine

headaches(convulsive, projectile like vomit),

manic depressive behavior of course undiagnosed

way back then...etc....I think in some freakish

way I may have been somewhat immune or at least

my own immune system was handling it until I

was given anti-inflamms....and I believe those

were the catalyst'S which unleashed the longtime(

last time I ever took a tick off of myself in 85)

TBD infestation....somehow laying dormant till

the anti inflams.

so if no one has honestly been infected since

1954 I guess me and the iceman will take top

honors(so to speak) for having lyme the longest(

although not technically called lyme then).

I have run accross migrans rashes as being the

only known effects of Bb in Europe back when the

French were examining the phenome or "syndrome")!

zman

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When I heard about this originally, I automatically assumed that the government was somehow promoting this to cover their tracks. I have no idea if I am completely paranoid or not!!

But think about it. If we are all saying "hey you guys genetically modified Lyme and/or released it" then the government promotes the fact that Lyme has been around "forever", then it looks like we don't have any idea of what we're talking about.

"NO! We didn't release anything! See?? It was alive "back then" ".

Eh, I'm probably paranoid!! But can you blame me?

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6/2011 IgX:
IGG: 31 IND, 41+++, 45+, 58+
IGM: 31+, 39 IND, 41 IND, 83-93 IND
Band 31 confirmed to be Lyme epitope by Igenex 7/2011

8/2011 IgX: POSITIVE
IGG: 31+, 34 IND, 39 IND, 41++, 45+, 58+
IGM: 31+, 34 IND, 39 IND, 41++, 83-93+

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I would also like to compare the genetics of the old Lyme to our current Lyme and see what has been altered.

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6/2011 IgX:
IGG: 31 IND, 41+++, 45+, 58+
IGM: 31+, 39 IND, 41 IND, 83-93 IND
Band 31 confirmed to be Lyme epitope by Igenex 7/2011

8/2011 IgX: POSITIVE
IGG: 31+, 34 IND, 39 IND, 41++, 45+, 58+
IGM: 31+, 34 IND, 39 IND, 41++, 83-93+

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In19944
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mouse..That's the first thing I thought.
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Sorry, but we give our Gov too much credit for this type of conspiracy. Lyme cannot just simply be created as it currently stands. It has many layers and is very well protected, something that only evolution and millions of years of trial and error can produce.

Goverments are usually too dumb to produce such a species. What they are good at is making you think that they are spending money on worthy projects, while lining their and their constituents pockets.

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Mouse said.. "If we are all saying "hey you guys genetically modified Lyme and/or released it" ..."

Just to be really clear- the overwhelming majority of people in the Lyme community- including doctors, scientists and patients- are NOT saying the government genetically modified Lyme, ticks or spirochetes and/or released them.

There are a few people who enjoying studying the various theories and even those who promote them (like the Kennedy assassination theories or conspiracies), but to date no solid evidence supporting the theories has ever been presented or confirmed.

Even if it was done, there is nothing we can do now to fix it.

If it wasn't done, we look nuts trying to promote that it was or could have been done. That is something that detracts from what we all need, which is to find a cure for Lyme and in doing so remain credible.

Please keep in mind spirochetes, like cockroaches and other insects for example, have been around and evolving for millions of years.

In fact, spirochetes managed to survive for at least 20 million years. Evidence of their existence was confirmed in 2001 when spirochetes were found in the intestinal tissue of a fossilized termite preserved in amber.

http://www.pnas.org/content/99/3/1410.full.pdf

Just wanted to make sure that is clear to all.

[Big Grin]

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