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"That is why that combo that dr H in NY is using now for babesia is working better now rather tahh only mepron , or malarone and azithromycin ( antibmalaria treatment only)."
It was my understanding that Dr. H had absolutely no interest in testing or treating FL1953. Had heard he didn't believe in it.
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Targeting parasites/worms with antiparasitics is key in getting rid of Lyme and co-infections. Doing a maintenance program on an ongoing basis is prudent. If only one egg is left, the cycle will start all over again. Cloves kills the eggs.
ItsMyTurn,
Very wise to do Humaworm when off Ivermectin.
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gael, where are you getting your information? How do you know that the FL1953 is the same as filial worms? Your observations about eggs and hatchlings and adults may not apply to some of us.
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kelmo,
I never stated that the FL1953 was the same as Filarial Worms. Ivermectin is an antiparasitic used in the tx of worms/parasites.
It just makes sense that if people are having positive responses when taking Ivermectin, that it is targeting parasites.
If that's the case, it would be wise to assume that parasites could be involved along with larva and eggs.
How is it known to target the FL1953 bug? Not saying it doesn't, but is there any evidence that it does?
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My update on Ivermectin -
I have been taking 3mg every other day. Overall I have been feeling pretty good... thinking this is the ticket to recovery. Recently however I have symptoms coming back that I have not had in years. I need to see my doc and add some abx. I believe it is my strep infection that is flaring up.
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Nefferdun - Thanks so much for posting the interview with Dr F.!!
I have just skimmed through it and WOW lots of great information!!!
Every one of us should take the time to read this.
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You're welcom lymextu. It is not the first time it has been posted I don't think so others may have seen it already.
The problem with dosing horse wormer is getting the correct dose. The first day I really overdid it. I ordered the pills from Canada BoxerMom gave a link for.
I have been getting joint and muscle aching so I believe it is hitting something. I was going to do it 3 days on and 4 off but I may push it longer. I have seen no indications of any worms, TG.
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I took Ivermectin for 6 months with no improvements. Dr. F added Doxy combo towards the end with no improvements. He stopped my treatment. Went to another Dr. who said it was Lyme not FL1953. Confused....
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I did two weeks of ivermectin and then just the low fat diet. I have been on the diet about two months and I am much better than I was. The only drug I am taking right now is LDN. When I take the ivermectin I get insomnia. That may be a herx but I just can't handle not sleeping right now.
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Since I started Ivermectin just a few days ago.... I feel so much better. Sometimes a little tired, but overall just better. I started passing the parasites just 2 days after beginning. Crazy! I have a few meds lined up. After meds, I plan to do herbs and salt/C....LONG TERM. I am going to stay on top of this infection. I think this is the key for a lot of us (Thanks to Gael for her many many many posts!).
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I still have no twitches and am taking a short ivermectin break. I am starting chaga mushrooms and a liver regenerator / detox and herxing like HE-- . When I take a break from these two I feel better , but want to continue . I do firmly think attacking parasites , metal or toxins, and addressing the liver's ability to function at max capcity are unfortunately all part of the picture of achieveing improvement .
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I just recently tried the horse ivermectin too and got a herx from the paste. I had a gut feeling that I would herx (not many things make me herx) and I took it really slow.
I took what might be comparable to the size of a nickle and about an hour later it hit me. A general feeling of unwellness, slight tingling in my arms, slightly short of breath. It lasted 10-15min or so and then back to normal.
I had a similar, but stronger reaction wheni first took 1 pill of Amoxicillin. Also with Amoxi it only happened the first time and never again thereafter.
The next day dose was the size of a quarter and not much reaction. On the 3rd day I took about 3/4 of a 250 pnd dose and not much, only a barely noticeable bump.
I feel as if my twitches and vibrations have diminished. They were very strong, as strong as they have ever been before Ivermectin. I am monitoring this and will report back. Off Ivermectin today and will go back in 2 days.
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I went back on stromectol two weeks ago. I am doing extremely well. I sent my blood to F lab and expect to get the results any day now. I hope my GP can get more specific treatment recommendations.
I was worried about taking ivermectin every day but I have not side effects at all. It does not cause candida. I guess it will be safe to take it every day for four - five months until all the red blood cells turn over.
I am also doing the low fat vegan diet which is great. I was doing that alone for about 6 weeks and felt close to well. I got my methyl cycle results and sent the results to Dr. R to have him give me specific recommendations, but I am taking what I believe to be the best treatment.
I may beat this.
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My daughter is between 6-9mg daily and taking Pyrantel.
Right now, she is in another major herx cycle. Hoping when she tops out on the dosage we can start seeing some better days.
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Just bringing this back up so people can get the link for where to order that BoxerMom posted.
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I went off the ivermectin to give my liver a break and started feeling severe fatigue again. I am starting it again and am figuring it will be needed off and on for a VERY long time . It appears that it is taken for lengthy periods in other countries .
It also appears that added with DIE , or diethylcarbamazine , it is even more effective . Gael has implied that the eggs may respond to cloves , which might give greater benefit .
It is beginning to look like a very long time of attacking parasites is necessary , and maybe some creative efforts combining herbs, drugs, salt etc.. or rotating the three .
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I hear you annxyzz. I got out my Mimosa Pudica to see if that will help. In the past it made me constipated that's why I stopped. I couldn't tell if it was killing anything. Dr. K says it's 30 times stronger than the other meds... hard to believe.
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Please can you tell me where do you purches Ivermectin ,sida acuta ,mimoza prudica I'm functioning normaly just taking garlic and reservatrol but have insect bite sensations on my hands up to elbow and on the feet up to knee,and also neck cracks. Only this two symptoms left . Like to know your thoughts.Have to treat my spouse and my 3 kids they look like all have this and i know for fact never left city or had to see an insect . Best Maradona
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