Topic: D3 got long/but see /from D to Thyroid&drinks
nonna05
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Is raw milk safe as far as Brucellosis??? Certified? Is that legal In every state?
I take it I should google Adele Davis for recipe??
I love milk,,,everybody in the HOLISTIC ?NATURAL pay a fortune for opinion kept saying ,no milk, wheat. red meat and other bacics.. I don't have allergies that I know of to them..They just say it's not digested by body to get nutrition from and taxes your system..
Also the $ 140 bucks to hear I should eat type A blood type food,,,no red meat...which I crave and I haven't gotten better with eliminating it...or the other stuff..
It's enough to get all these meds etc down..and I do get a Alive shake about every 3 days,,
If I could physically make and get this stuff I would..
I try my best to ask,,and then other times I'm just so ill , we never know for sure what a day will be like...
I just need about 30 % of my health and I could force me back to getting/doing...
Help and friends are living their lives and husband picks and chooses. .He is older than me and very healthy. .He thinks he eats well.and I try to ask for small changes for me. So I can handle the stuff..
My days and nights are so turned around that we never know if I'm going to be with it or not ,,
There is very little adjusting to his retired schedule.
Sounds like I better plan on shakes for a while
Several times when I was sick and before the major crash in Aug... I would do just that..Mc Ducs shake small, baby burger, peel most bread from it and every other day or so chicken on salad...
That was just at really bad times and I could still pop in car do an errand, drive-through,walk in house ,eat and drop in bed for hours or days........
I have been in house for months now, except doctors etc... Amazon has basically been part of a life saver to get some stuff here......
Sorry for the pitty party part ,,this has not been a good 10 plus days...in so many ways.
AuntyLynn
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MarylandMom -
Congratulations on your daughter's wedding!! I trust she had beautiful weather?
I am sending my best wishes to the happy couple for a long and joyful life together!
(Whew, how did you manage to spend so much time on these boards, when you are "mother of the bride"?!)
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AuntyLynn
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Nonna5 -
I can give you the Adele Davis recipe for her "fortified milk" - will have to come later as I'm about to cook dinner, but I'm glad you're interested.
I know I risk bristling some folks here with what I am about to say, but frankly, the "popular" dietary restriction to avoid milk and meat is, IMHO, an ill-advised theory that came from Eastern religious/dietary philosophy.
Moreover, the American Dairy Association is very happy to have you worry over the threat of brucellosis. Statisically, most cases of brucellosis in this country are contracted these days by deer hunters who butcher their own meat.
Fact is, 100 years ago nearly everyone in this country drank fresh whole raw milk, and ate raw milk cheeses. Just as all of the "primitive" societies of the world have, for millenia - the Bedouins, the Masai, and all of early Europe.
Difference was, their herds were pastured, and ate only grass and hay. When the agribiz titans in this country thought they could "pump up" milk and meat production, by adding GRAINS to cattle feed - they invited the growth of pathogens in the guts of their animals.
Sure, they put on weight and increased milk production, but the herds now harbored a host of bacteria, that is passed to the milk. Hence, the need AROSE for pasteurization, and for the use of antibiotics in herds!
The Weston A. Price Foundation is a wonderful organization that bases its nutritional theories upon the success of native cultures, whose diets all included the same nutrient-rich foods.
Although native diets may seem very different in varying places around the world, Dr. Price noticed that they all provided the same basic nutrients - animal fats, bone broths, fish oils, raw dairy products (loaded with probiotics and natural enzymes) and naturally fermented vegetables (more digestive enzymes). Dr. Price said the general health, and the dental health of these populations was remarkable (he was a dentist!) ... even though they did not eat the "processed" foods that were common in America.
You can read about the Weston A. Price foundation at:
Although many states allow the sale of what New Englander's know as "state certified" raw milk, others states do not. (Like mine!)
Real Milk does the legal paper work to set up "dairy clubs" and ensure that suppliers are raising only grass and hay fed cows, that their dairy barns are tidy, and their milk is regularly tested. For an annual fee and a signed liability waiver, you can join a club and order this wonderful gift of nature, which is delivered to a neighborhood pick-up location, about every other week.
The only precaution I had taken was to set my fridge to a chilly 40 degrees F; and you know what? The stuff stays remarkably fresh - for as much as two weeks! But you can also put plastic bottles in the freezer if you like.
If you have never tasted an icy cold glass of whole raw milk, you can't possibly know what you have been missing! It is creamy yellow, with natural vitamin D, and the cream line sits nearly half way down the container!
I now know why my great grandmother used to talk so wistfully about the days when a local farmer would pull his wagon through the neighborhood, and ladle fresh milk into a metal milk can.
A relative I turned onto the idea, told me that she always had problems with pasteurized milk "bothering" her, but there were none when she drank the raw. A dairy club friend says her husband takes raw butter to work for his sandwiches, which helps to control his Crohn's disease.
As a life-long milk drinker, I can truly tell you, there's nothing like, "the real thing!"
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AuntyLynn
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ok NOW my poor BF is starved!
Back later!!
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nonna05
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Yes interested
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Adelle Davis was once described by the New York Times as: "The High Priestess" of Nutrition. She held a Masters in biochemistry from USoCal, worked for many years as a private nutritional counselor, and wrote several books that were extremely popular in the 60s and 70s.
When attempting to improve the health of the very ill, she would prescribe her recipe for "fortified milk" or "pep-up." Advising patients to sip on a quarter cup of this fortified "smoothie" throughout the day, whenever solid food posed a challenge.
I invite readers to compare the ingredients in Adelle Davis' "Pep-Up" to the ingredients in Ensure, which is presently sold to nursing homes and hospitals around the country. (Ensure gets most of its calories from corn syrup!)
The recipe that follows was also recommended as a daily nutritional boost for pregnant women.
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AuntyLynn
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Note: My personal clarifications are in parentheses.
Fortified Milk or "Pep-Up" From: "Let's Have Healthy Children" By: Adelle Davis Page 101 "Research has shown that it is not enough to obtain adequate amounts of each essential nutrient. Insofar as it is possible, all of these nutrients should be furnished to the cells at the same time. The following drink was designed to meet this need."
Prepare pep-up by blending, preferably in a liquifier:
2 cups fresh whole milk (Recipe takes 1 quart)
1/2 cup non-instant powdered skim milk
1 Tablespoon food yeast (Brewers Yeast); gradually increased to 1/4 or 1/2 cup(with time).
1 teaspoon real vanilla
1 Tablespoon of vegetable oil, or a combination of soy, corn, safflower, and/or peanut oil. (I recommend safflower.)
1/2 cup of your favorite fruit, such as banana, crushed or chunk pineapple, berries, or undiluted frozen orange juice.
1 or 2 raw eggs - unless you prefer them cooked.
1/2 egg shell, or 1/2 teaspoon bone meal, or 2 Tablespoons of calcium gluconate, or 1 Tablespoon calcium lactate or carbonate - unless you prefer tablets.
1 Tablespoon lecithin, if desired. (Supplies 250 mg choline, essential to brain health.)
1/4 teaspoon Magnesium Oxide (per serving!)- add to a serving immediately before drinking , or take in a tablet.
When these ingredients have been well blended, add the remainder of a quart of milk.
Until pep-up is familiar to you, use only a little yeast, calcium, and lecithin, and sip slowly no more than 1/4 cup at each meal and mid-meal. Gradually increase quantities later. I personally prefer to take lecithin stirred into juice, and to get my calcium and magnesium from tablets.
----- That's her recipe! Should be inexpensive and easy to make and keep in the fridge, to have some ready nutrients at your fingertips.
Adelle introduced me to Brewers Yeast, which is a nutritional powerhouse, and tastes a bit like a malted. It is also a heckuva lot easier for me to put down than liver. (Her other "super" food! lol)
Hope this might help. I wish you all a very speedy return to robust good health.
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AuntyLynn
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A note on NON instant powdered milk:
I know that the Mormon canneries (Latter Day Saints) sell non-instant powdered milk. They are open to the public, but as I understand it, you must make an appointment.
Also, there is a brand of powdered Goats milk available in health food stores right now, (comes in a can) which would fill the bill.
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nonna05
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Aunty ,Thank you ,just saw this
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Correct re: vitamin D needed to absorb calcium, calcium absorption impaired below vitamin D level of 32 ng/dl. Totally agree about the raw milk thing, I used to love milk, but realized it was practically an anaesthetic for me, If I drank a glass I would get unavoidably sleepy and would have to sleep for an hour or two. Quit milk in '86, never looked back. immediate improvement in energy AND skin completely cleared up.
My furnace man told me his son got hives whenever he drank store bought milk, but if he could procure raw milk from a dairy farmer friend, no hives!
Nutrition is all important in this process. Nonna, do you ever run a temp or is your temp consistently 98.6?
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AuntyLynn
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nonna05
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Doc ,I feel hot/sweats etc a lot But my body temp usually is 96.5 since I've been so sick. So when I go to doc and I'm 99 I know I have a fever, they don't.
Dig bummer I just saw the non=doc=doc M and his u-tube of conference regarding the D and the Hydroxy 25 issue...
Then A comment on another u-tube from a brian Rossner ,. He leaned to the M reference..
The this thing about OLMESARTAN being a safe way to build the "RIGHT " D
I think I saw another post about D and curcumin last night..
Which I'm still going from , my night . My yesterday started at 8 pm ,awake..went to bed around 2 and still going, I'm tired, but wired, fatigue, pain and ringing in ear so loud...
My knee started hurting again ,. So out came 8000 units of D3... Just didn't know what else to do . A vicodin and a valium didn't touch any of this.. Kinda reverse.. BUMMER................ That was more info than needed ...Sorry !
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AuntyLynn
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Nonna - Have you been to an LLMD yet??
Driving yourself crazy trying to "figure out" multiple cures is useless if you don't first have the FACTS about your own health!
Dr. Aunty says: Go lie out in the sun and try to get a nap!!! Posts: 1432 | From New Jersey | Registered: Jan 2012
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96.5 is too low, do you have more energy when it's higher?
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nonna05
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doc , Never thought of it ,but possible... Fatigue is so profound with me .. even if awake I'm mush.....
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It could be salient.
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nonna05
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I Googled and ,don't understand what is meant
low temp and low D could cause fatigue or low temp is called this and it includes fatigue????????????/
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Many biological functions in the body depend on enzymes, and enzyme effectiveness is related to their 3d structure, which changes with temperature. Look into Wilson's temperature syndrome... When the enzymes are functioning at their best, vitamin D is necessary for individual cells to respond to the metabolic demand that they will incur. Energy production is high on the list of biological functions of the body.
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nonna05
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So me telling every doctor I see, Including LLMD that my body temp runs low and if in normal range I actually have a fever and do feel worse on worse......WHAT CAN THEY DO?? What do they check for , is this a sign of low D3?/
It's always been a part of the "you don't look sicK" remark , cause to them my temp is normal.
For me it IS NOT... Just popped 50,000, same as baileypup's brand.. Haven't eaten well for a few days....felt the deep bone pain this afternoon,,enough to wake me from a way over due deep sleep.
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Razzle
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Low body temp is from adrenal and/or thyroid insufficiency. I'm unaware of any connection to Vitamin D status...(someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this).
BTW, my body temp tends to run around 96.4, and when it is 98.6, I feel like I have a fever and feel flu-ish...
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The MERCOLA/WESTON A. PRICE VITAMIN A/D CONTROVERSY (WAPF President Sally Fallon responds to Dr. M's theories)
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OK ,looked up Wilson's Syndrome......lots of controversy on that ,,,But I do have some t-3/cytomel that I haven't taken for awhile.
Just didn't notice a difference when I took it for about 2 plus month's
Now back to Razzle Has your T-3 been tested?
So we can say Marshall protocol on site....
Aunty..I haven't clicked on links yet ,but guess who just bought Krill ,cause read it was not a bottom feeder and likely not to have as many toxins as other fish oils.....
OK ., It's offical..brain is fried
I've been taking Armour 60 mg. for month's
I used to take a supplement ,straight from Vitamin store, Thyroid glandular extract, or something close to that ..I know I felt better with that..Just can't find it anymore....
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