Topic: Party is over! Ivermectin is making unwelcome guests leave (visibly)!
Haley
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 22008
posted
Gael. I have to confess .... when I first got on here in 2009... I thought this Gael must be selling something because you kept mentioning parasites..... it didn't matter if someone was losing their mind or just feeling really sick... you always recommended parasite treatment.
I will probably be joining you in professing this about parasites because I do believe this is what will help me turn the corner (still can't say for sure). June 1st is three years since my diagnosis.
Posts: 2232 | From USA | Registered: Aug 2009
| IP: Logged |
surprise
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 34987
posted
Saw my LLMD yesterday, and sent in a blood sample for the Fry bug-
If it is positive, then will do the Ivermection, Alinia, et al.
I am on my last week of Albendazole 7 day, last day 1 dose Ivermection - (left over from a long time ago, different LLMD)
and it is weary fighting these things, for sure. Hard on the immune system.
Also on Bicillin w/ my Tindamax pulses. Off Tindamax while on the parasite protocol this week.
Tammy, did you test for the Fry bug?
-------------------- Lyme positive PCR blood, and positive Bartonella henselae Igenex, 2011. low positive Fry biofilm test, 2012. Update 7/16- After extensive treatments, doing okay! Posts: 2518 | From USA | Registered: Nov 2011
| IP: Logged |
ukcarry
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 18147
posted
Great news, Tammy! I think it's so encouraging when you see tangible proof that something you're doing is having an effect!
Posts: 1647 | From UK | Registered: Nov 2008
| IP: Logged |
Tammy N.
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 26835
posted
Gael - I'm starting to see it the way you do. So many people stay in treatment for Lyme and cos for so long, yet most don't fully get over the hump (living symptom free with no further treatment). Makes me wonder if everyone tried to aggressively treat parasites, would there be better "cure" rates? So far everyone I know who tried to treat parasites in earnest, seems to be seeing results. I think it's important for all of us to realize that this needs to be a long-term thing. Can't just do a 30 day herbal stint and think you've checked it off the list. This is what I did 2 years ago. That got me nowhere. Now, with a very strong approach, I am seeing results that are stunning me. This is a stumbling block that I never would have gotten past with any other type of "Lyme" treatment. I pray for my full return to health.
Haley - good luck! Go for it!!
Surprise - no I did not test for the Frye bug. So many people are testing positive, that I'm becoming of the mindset that this bug is likely an issue for just about all of us (just my opinion). I knew I was going to treat for parasites, so I saved the money on this test. I do wonder if it is enough to treat the Frye bug with just parasite meds, and not the Doxy??
ukcarry - Yes, it is encouraging! Nice to hear from you. Haven't "seen" you around lately. Hope you are well:)
Posts: 2238 | From East Coast | Registered: Jul 2010
| IP: Logged |
Lymedin2010
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 34322
posted
Didn't Wild Condor get bitten over 100 times? �Surely she must have had parasites, but I don't think she ever treated for it?
I don't think Dr. B, who treated her used antiparasitics?
She must have had every bug in the book. �Maybe really high doses of ABX, as she had taken, also have an effect on parasites?
Also, do you feel that the parasite and Salt C treatments get past the BBB & into the brain and neurons?
Posts: 2094 | From NY | Registered: Oct 2011
| IP: Logged |
Haley
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 22008
posted
Wild condor also did massive amounts of HBOT. Maybe that killed parasites if she had them.
Posts: 2232 | From USA | Registered: Aug 2009
| IP: Logged |
"Fibromylagia" for 8+ years Pos IgeneX WB per both Igenex and CDC Pos Neuroscience MyLymeImmuneID Started tx for Lyme in March 2011 Posts: 245 | From East Coast | Registered: May 2011
| IP: Logged |
Tammy N.
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 26835
posted
Hi Garden
I am doing really well! Still on para treatments. Less bugs are being expelled. My symptoms are way way down. I am on such a great path. Very grateful.
Posts: 2238 | From East Coast | Registered: Jul 2010
| IP: Logged |
posted
Yay! I did so well last year when I did two cycles of the Dr K parasite treatment. I ran into a major snag when I couldn't get Alinia during the second round, while they changed manufacturing locations.
I'm back on the train, taking pin x and ivermectin at the moment. The herxes were intense the first few days, but I know that means it's working.
I'm so glad to hear you are making so much progress!!
-------------------- Garden
"Fibromylagia" for 8+ years Pos IgeneX WB per both Igenex and CDC Pos Neuroscience MyLymeImmuneID Started tx for Lyme in March 2011 Posts: 245 | From East Coast | Registered: May 2011
| IP: Logged |
posted
I have been on a anti-parasitic called ipil-ipil that my DO put me on. He wanted to try one called Para-A but I couldn't do the alcohol in the tincture. I have had tons of clear transparent pieces of stuff that looks like the lining of my colon, but don't know. Does anyone know what it is? I have not seen anything string or with a head. I have not felt well on the antiparasitc. I was also on nystatin at the same time. I can tell I need to visit with the DO. He had me do 4 days on, 3 off, 4 on , and then 20 days laters do 4 more days. After reading these posts I can see I need him to test me and see what else we can try. He likes to use herbs better than meds. Any adive
Posts: 620 | From Ks | Registered: Oct 2011
| IP: Logged |
Tammy N.
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 26835
posted
Garden - It sounds like you are on a good track. That's great. Keep going. I don't know what pin x is?? What was your line-up of meds, doseages, etc.? I'm curious.
cozy - I don't know what ipil-ipil is. I have taken Para-A. I'm fine with alcohol in my homeopathics. Even that small amount of alcohol is a problem for you? (If so, bummer!)
A lot of folks like Humaworm and Parastroy. From what I'm learning, it seems that herbs are not usually enough. If you go the herb route, it's important to add salt/c. Dr. K is typically very natural in his approaches, but for stubborn parasites, he tends to prefer pharmaceuticals. He also like mimosa pudica.
Posts: 2238 | From East Coast | Registered: Jul 2010
| IP: Logged |
NanaDubo
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 14794
posted
Fellow parasite killers - please don't forget the heavy metal connection. Parasites are attracted to heavy metals, they bathe themselves in them and when we kill them, they release the metals along with everything else they hold.
My doc trained under with Dr. K and she has been working with me on the parasite/metal issue for awhile.
I am now doing some fairly heavy stuff for metals at the same time as anti-parasitics and I can't stress enough the importance of binders.
I am switching up binders and taking them at least four times a day, often 5-6 times a day. Hard to get all that in with good timing but I think it is really important.
Sonnes liquid bentonite, modifilan and some others. Staying away from charcoal right now as the heavy metal treatment pulls good minerals out too, and charcoal can make that a bigger issue.
Good luck everyone.
Posts: 1129 | From Maine | Registered: Feb 2008
| IP: Logged |
glm1111
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 16556
posted
If you find that Parastroy or humaworm is not strong enough by itself, you can add another cleanse like Hanna Kroeger Wormwood Combo to it.
I also added clove caps, digestive enzymes (Super Digestaway by Soloray) and HCL. I also take coconut oil and add garlic paste mixed together.
I make the paste just using garlic powder and it's pretty strong. Of course I also do salt/c. FYI, you can also take 3 each para rid and para sweep 2 x a day after the 3rd week.
Aloe Vera gel/juice is also exellent for inflammation and bacteria. Wheat grass juice, chlorella or chlorophtl for heavy metals. Happy healing everyone!!!
Gael
-------------------- PARASITES/WORMS ARE NOW RECOGNIZED AS THE NUMBER 1 CO-INFECTION IN LYME DISEASE BY ILADS* Posts: 6418 | From philadelphia pa | Registered: Jul 2008
| IP: Logged |
posted
Where can we buy Ivermectin, guys? It is not available in my country, so pharmacy will not do it. I need some source in Europe, otherwise I am afraid customs will confiscate it. Hard to find.
Posts: 125 | From eu | Registered: Dec 2010
| IP: Logged |
posted
Tammy, I'll PM you this weekend with the details.
Yes, Nana, I've done rounds of heavy metal work, too. I did a lot last winter, after I'd done two rounds of the Dr K parasite protocol.
I had significant herxing from it (and I was taking a lot of chlorella - worked with two ART practioners), so I know it was an issue for me.
It's hard for me to take anything 4 times a day, though, especially if it needs to be taken away from meds. I'm the mom of two active children - who are at an age where they need to be driven to many activities, playdates, etc, and they both are in treatment for Lyme, too. Not to mention they are GF/CF. So I need to be at least partially functional.
-------------------- Garden
"Fibromylagia" for 8+ years Pos IgeneX WB per both Igenex and CDC Pos Neuroscience MyLymeImmuneID Started tx for Lyme in March 2011 Posts: 245 | From East Coast | Registered: May 2011
| IP: Logged |
The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:
The
Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey 907 Pebble Creek Court,
Pennington,
NJ08534USA http://www.lymenet.org/
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
![[hi]](graemlins/hi.gif)
Printer-friendly view of this topic