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RZR
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What do you use and how long?

Does flagyl or tindamax work on biofilms?

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canefan17
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Don't know about cheap. But forme you get what you pay for in regards to systemic enzymes.

Boluoke works best ime.
I've read Serratia Serrapeptase too

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Triphala. The Haritaki in it is said to work on biofilms.

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What brand of Boluoke and where to get?

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http://www.needs.com/product/HWC04-FAM-04/l_Immune_Support

What are biofilms?

...bacteria and then began to secrete *proteins* (curli fibers) and *polysaccharides* (colanic acid and cellulose) to make the biofilm matrix...


http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/2009/11/bacterial-amyloid-forms-biofilms.html

Read the last sentence in the above link.


Ultrasound breaks up some biofilms.

Finding the right frequency is key.

Haritaki is interesting...


This tree (Terminalia chebula) yields smallish, ribbed and nut-like fruits which are picked when still green and then pickled, boiled with a little added sugar in their own syrup or used in preserves.

The ***seed of the fruit***, which has an elliptical shape, is an abrasive seed enveloped by a fleshy and firm pulp.

It is regarded as a universal panacea in the Ayur-Vedic Medicine and in the Traditional Tibetan medicine.

It is reputed to cure blindness and it is believed to inhibit the growth of malignant tumours.

In Urdu and Hindi it is called Harad, ***Haritaki***, or Harada, respectively 'Inknut'.

In Sri Lanka it is called Aralu. In Marathi it is called as 'Hirada', in Kannada it is called 'Alalekaayi' and in Tamil it is called 'Kadukkai'.

In Bengali it is called horitoky. In Assamese it is called Hilikha. In Telugu it is called 'Karakkaya'.

In the United States it is found in some Indian stores; it is known as 'Harde Whole'.

T. chebula contains terflavin B, a type of *tannin* while *chebulinic acid* is found in the fruits.

Researchers have isolated a number of glycosides from Haritaki,

including the triterpenes arjunglucoside I, arjungenin, and the chebulosides I and II.

Other constituents include a coumarin conjugated with gallic acids called chebulin,

as well as other phenolic compounds including ellagic acid, 2,4-chebulyl-β-D-glucopyranose, chebulinic acid, gallic acid, ethyl gallate, punicalagin, terflavin A, terchebin, luteolin, and

tannic acid.

Chebulic acid is a phenolic acid compound isolated from the ripe fruits. Luteic acid can be isolated from the bark.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_chebula

Humm�remember the �Universal remedy�? Mg oxide, tannic acid and activated charcoal.

Tannins - in the "brown wrapping" normally around almonds.

The mention of gallate is also curious...

Epigallocatechin-3-gallate (EGCG), one of the major catechins in green tea, is a
potential chemopreventive agent for various cancers.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15579097 - gallium in cancer treatments...ie. "The trivalent gallium cation is capable of inhibiting tumor growth, mainly because of its resemblance to

ferric iron.

It affects cellular acquisition of iron by binding to transferrin,

and it interacts with the iron-dependent enzyme ribonucleotide reductase, resulting in reduced dNTP pools and inhibition of DNA synthesis."

Gallium nitrate...for cancer.

Gallium maltolate...discussed a long time ago here.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16827101

http://george-eby-research.com/html/arthritis.html

http://george-eby-research.com/html/anti-nanobacteria-gallium.pdf

http://george-eby-research.com/html/is-gallium-nitrate-a-treatment-or-a-cure-for-crohns-disease.pdf

George is the original author of a HUGE Mg website...all documented/linked.

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quote:
Originally posted by Marnie:

http://george-eby-research.com/html/arthritis.html

http://george-eby-research.com/html/anti-nanobacteria-gallium.pdf

http://george-eby-research.com/html/is-gallium-nitrate-a-treatment-or-a-cure-for-crohns-disease.pdf


Oh my, those articles have amazing information.
I hope that researchers are able to get funding to look into all of that.

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Eva Sapi researched a combination of banderol and samento on lyme. It's all over, but this is a good place to read it:

http://www.townsendletter.com/July2010/sapi0710.html

After reading that I decided to try a couple of bottles. I felt a lot of vague flu-like symptoms, headaches, fever, etc. I swapped the samento for cats-claw, but still take banderol.

I've added serrapeptase and nattokinase as well. The combination is awfully expensive. Then again, so is being sick.

Sorry, I know these don't qualify as cheap. But they are fairly effective.

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I've been taken wobenzyme 3 tx/day
iherb is my favorite site to buy.
who knows for sure if it's helping, can't really see inside.

2yrs oral antibx and herbals
much better than when I started : )

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Sixgoofy,,,What brand Triphala????// How does it work and do you take it on empty or with food?

Tickbitt..The drops are effective ,??What do you feel?//
Are you also on ABX??

Is biofilm same as or different than Cyst form??/

Thank you....

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Adding DMSO takes away from the protection of the biofilm. I use nutrasilver with other colloidal silver products mixed with a tablespoon or so of DMSO. It produces a powerful herx. I've gone from 1 drop to 35 drops. I've also gone from unable to tolerate heat to 30-45 minutes of work in the Texas heat.

I highly recommend sweating to release the toxins after you consume it. One warning, there is a spoiled milk smell when you sweat. Might want to stay away from populated areas. Very cheap BTW. Search "dmso silver cancer" for the protocol.

Edit:another warning. The taste is the most vile you will ever encounter. Mix with a strong tasting drink and hold your nose. Best of luck.

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I used Banyan Botanicals, though I'm not sure it matters what brand. It's been a while since I took it .... I just followed the directions on the bottle.

It helps a lot with digestive issues, too, and can hit parasites.

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