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Basically I do not have much joy around food anymore. Carbs do not make me feel well afterwards, meat has little flavor and all I want to eat is vegetables. Anyone have good luck with a vegetarian diet? It seems I only crave veggies and would appreciate any quick recipes. I do not have much hunger and do not each much but would like what ever I am putting in my body to be good fuel. Thanks everyone!
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Hi Joan:
I dropped meat 25+ years ago and have been fish, poultry and vegs. I think this was a mistake as it is really not the meat but the Wheat.
I've just started to cut out wheat and have started to see some improvements. I'm giving it 6 months to see where I am.
Many here become gluten free due to the lyme so good luck.
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- Be sure to supplement with Taurine and CLA (conjugated lipoic acid), as well as B-12.
TAURINE is especially vital. Without that in our diet or added, vision can suffer.
CLA, from grass grazing cattle, bison, lamb is essential, too. So, if you drop red meat, take CLA. -
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Joan, I def dont have joy with food anymore. I don't think that your body can survive on mainly vegetables however, especially fighting these infections. I cannot each much myself and I am incredibly underweight because of it, but I try to eat and drink things with as much nutrition and as many calories as possible.
Have you tried protein shakes? I was vegan for awhile and it did more to harm my health than anything I can think of-my hair was falling out, my skin was dry and I had even less energy than I do now. Just my two cents. Best wishes, Jess.
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THE REQUIREMENTS OF PROTEIN & AMINO ACID DURING ACUTE & CHRONIC INFECTIONS
Indian J Med Res 124, August 2006, pp 129-148
- by Anura V. Kurpad
Fifteen pages of text.
Excerpt from abstract on page one:
. . . In general, the amount of extra protein that would appear to be needed is of the order of 20-25 per cent of the recommended intake, for most infections. . . . -
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The only exception to the protein requirement statement is if one has certain specific methylation genomic variants that necessitate a vegan or low protein diet. I'm speaking of the CBS variant specifically, which I know more than one of us (me) on this board has...
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Keebler
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- Thanks for that detail Razzle.
I added your note to my Protein file page for future reference. Is there a link that you might want to suggest to others to go with that? Would that be Amy Yasko? -
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Keebler
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- There is also the "Eat Right for Your Blood Type" book but my experience (and the thought of my ND) is that it can be overly broad and that some folks just don't fit the diet for their blood type.
I didn't. I really needed to add back in meat but especially fish and eggs.
Those with porphyria can have a hard time with meat, too.
And there is new detail about how some tick bites can result in red meat allergy (or even poultry).
I'm toast now but will try to come back with links for those two things just mentioned. -
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Keebler,
I scanned the article you posted. I think the main point is what you wrote in your post:
In general, the amount of extra protein that would appear to be needed is of the order of 20-25 per cent of the recommended intake, for most infections. . . .
Are there other main points that you got from this article? It looks very interesting but a bit too confusing for me at the moment. I am going on a 30 day clean diet and trying to come up with the parameters I would like to follow. There are so many different opinions on diet.
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I feel a vegan diet, low in acid (meat is very acidic), helps me a lot. I have done it very high fat and low carb, and currently am doing it very low fat. Different approaches over time reflect different focus of treatment at that time.
I do believe the extra protein is important, and have seen my protein needs change through phases of treatment. I take "MAP Protein", a very high-quality protein supplement. I think that a vegan diet plus this supplement is much healthier than eating animal products for protein. It may be more expensive as well to do it this way, but perhaps less expensive in the long-run if it helps me get fixed up (there's an "if" in there).
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Just wanted to add that I know someone who is in that pretending-they're-not-medically-ill stage who recently tried the blood type diet. I am sure they have very significant parasitic infections, and also believe they likely have lyme. They are type O and vegetarian, so this meant much more meat/animal proteins for them. By day 3 they were in much more miserable situation than previously.
Only point this out as an example, and we've discussed this before here, these blood type diets and similar ideas, PERHAPS they make sense for healthy people. But, no way do they directly translate to make sense for someone very sick with lyme (and probably same comment goes for other serious illnesses).
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