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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/18/quinolinic-acid-suicide-spinal-fluid_n_2325556.html

Anyone have comments on this article?

Dealing with lots of depression recently and I'm looking for options besides Prozac.

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Overlooking the fact they they overlook chronic stealth infections as one of many causes of inflammation in the first place, looking only at their jump to find out what can save the day, the answer is clear but they overlook it to push the pharmaceutical industry.

In addition to treating any chronic infection, addressing heavy metals, parasites and whatever else can CAUSE this excitotoxicity in the first place . . . along the way, MAGNESIUM is the best counterbalance to glutamate. It's available to all, right now, affordable and helps in many other ways, too.

But, no, they think:

"If the pharmaceutical industry can continue developing anti-glutamate medication, . . . ." (end quote).

Geez. We already have it: magnesium. And addressing chronic stealth infections and all that go along for the ride.

They want money for yet another drug that just covers up damage rather than addresses the causes.
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They should also look to food additives as another cause of inflammation and, very likely, of elevated q. acid. They certainly can raise glutamate through the roof.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=029690;p=0

Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors (that are not likely natural at all);


MAGNESIUM as an "antidote" is explained here:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/113775?#000000

Topic: Amino Acid Information Link

See post: Caution: Aspartate; Glutamine; and Phenylalanine
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Quinolinic acid is an excitotoxin to the Central Nervous System. More detail about that and other excitotoxins here:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/05/01/glutamine.aspx

Is Glutamine Supplementation Helpful or Harmful?
- May 01, 2004

. . . However, Dr. Russell Blaylock, a board-certified neurosurgeon and author of the highly recommended Excitotoxins: The Taste that Kills wrote in to me with another viewpoint and his response is below.

By Russell L. Blaylock, M.D.

Excerpt:

. . . Another study found that by adding glutamine to the diet of animals exposed to another powerful excitotoxin called quinolinic acid, brain cell damage was increased significantly.

Quinolinic acid is known to accumulate in the brain in most cases of viral brain infection as seen with HIV dementia and viral encephalitis. . . .

- full article at link above. Very interesting.
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One reason why magnesium is so important to lyme is that it's a powerful stabilizer to excitotoxins that occur with lyme. Magnesium is also very important to mood stability.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=123746;p=0

Topic: MAGNESIUM LINKS sets
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Speaking of excitotoxins, take a good look at your shampoo and body products labels as they are almost always filled with MSG, which of course is an excitotoxin. Also, vitamin supplement capsules if made from gelatin are very high in free glutomate acid, or MSG.
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In "Healing Lyme" Buhner recommends, Knotweed, Selenium, Zinc Picolinate with Copper and Melatonin to protect from QUIN.

Selenium 200mcg per day

Zinc Picolinate with Copper 30mg Zn / 2mg Cu one per day. Nature's Life makes this combination. Don't take Zn with Melatonin. Melatonin binds Zn and Cu.

Melatonin .6-3mg before bed

Since I am not a medical professional and this is not advice just my opinion I recommend reading the section in the book.

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As far as magnesium, I am glad it may hold potential for some, but I have never felt any resolution or calming of specific symptoms as described.

I've taken small to large doses (in various forms) for over a year and I've had it in IV's as well.

It doesn't do a whole lot for me.

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