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ok,,, so here we go again, some of you no i come
on here once a year or so, and so im back, so
basicly on jan, 23 2010, at 410 pm my brain went
to derealisation and depersonalisation, and for
those of you who dont no what that is concider
yourself very lucky, so ive been stuck like this
for almost 4 years now, accompinied with anxiety
and depression, its so great let me tell you, so
im not gonna bore everyone with all my crap, but
i wanted to no, what would you do, if you were
me, i think i have lyme, have all the classic
symptoms, but for some reason, im having a hard
time accepting that thats what it is, so lets say
im ready to try some treatment if i can find a
doc to treat me otherwise, im treating myself
some how some way, so if you were me and
suspected lyme, and you have a clean slate of no
steriods, no anti biotics ive never done nothing,
if you could start from scratch what would you do thnx
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steve1906
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Hi derk diggler, If it's been four years and you're still sick and have Lyme symptoms, then it's probably Lyme and maybe co-infections.
I would start with this...Go to Seeking a doctor and ask for help with a LLMD in your area (California).
I would also read this, Dr B's 2008 Guidelines for treatment.
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Derk, you sound so much like me. I had some positive bands on IGg 2 I think. Did see a LLMD wasn't a very good one was never told for sure expect by my GP . Tried Doxy and a few abx but the abx did a number on my esoph. so I stopped.. Still sick after 12 yrs and never really dx not treated as I should have been.
I feel like starting all over but where and how to start. If we still feel bad I think we should try or with me try again. Good Luck the main start if you do is please find a good doctor..That is the key, I think.
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thnx everyone i just dont no what to do and i am very educated on lyme and parasites just dont no where to start, and i dont want to start by being a guinny pig????????? 4 years of this bad acid trip, im done frying i want off this horrible ride
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glm1111
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If I knew then (when i first got dx) what I know now about parasites being a MAJOR component of Lyme, I would go after the parasites with strong antiparasitic herbs and salt/c.
Add digestive enzymes, extra cloves, coconut oil, coconut water and Kefir. This has been suggested to you each time you are here.
This is a very benign protocol and will help boost your immune system and adrenals as well. What are you waiting for???
Gael
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i no i no thnk you gail, ive never been scared of
anything, in my life, im a rough and tough roudy
young man, but the things that have gone on in my
mind scare the **** out of me, im just worried
that im poking a bear with a stick, but im mad
enough now that i think im ready, oh ya im very
mental compitant and very sane, no mental illnes,
except for what ever is causing all my cognitive
and neuro probs thnx guys and gail, keep the
suggestions coming please
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DITTO what Gael said. If I had it to do all over again, I would have done salt/c and herbs in a heart beat (no doubt).
Get back on the wagon with parasites. Check out THE PARASITE WARRIOR'S SUPPORT THREAD (you too Phyl). There is lots of info in that whole thread. Slowly but surely people eventually figure out they have something more (because they're not getting better) and start looking at parasites. IMO, parasites and protomyxzoa are the most overlooked co infections of all.
I like Steve's advice as well.
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glm1111
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derk,
I understand the fear, really I do. This disease is not for the faint of heart or even Goliath. Just start very slow...like half the dose of herbs and a very low dose of salt/c. PACE not RACE is the name of the game.
The sea salt puts the parasites into osmotic shock(dehydrates them)The salt/c plus book from Amazon will give you some excellent guidance along with the folks at Lymestrategies.
The combo of the herbs and salt/c packs quite a punch. GO FOR IT!! Not treating is not a good idea because the parasites will continue to lay eggs. FYI, salt also kills borrelia and the cyst form.
Gael
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man it sure feels good just to have a little support from people who get it ,,,, a big thnx guys
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I get it. Get it.
CA has some very good LLMD's.
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Find a good doc...
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Carol in PA
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Fish oil.
The essential fatty acids in fish oil will improve cell wall integrity.
Your brain needs a tremendous amount of nutrients to function properly.
Every cell is surrounded by a cell membrane, and all nutrients must pass through the membranes to reach the mitochondria in the cells.
The mitochondria use oxygen and blood sugar to make energy to power the cells.
Look for a fish oil that has very high EPA, like 400 mg per capsule. Take 2000 mg EPA daily.
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gael, what does <benign protocol> mean, or who ever can explain thnx
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Derk-there are some fairly aggressive parasite protocols out there.
Dr. K's protocol calls for high antiparasitics, and several at once.
It's a hard hitting protocol.
Personally I wouldn't survive it.
I think Gael meant benign, by salt/C and herbal paracides by being good for the body in several ways, but fairly easy on the body on the same time.
Sea salt and powdered vitamin C "Feels Good".
It took me 4 months or so to work up to 2 tsp of each daily...and when I did it was mass exodus of worms and flukes! It was nuts!
Start low and go slow.
If you take good quality probiotics, drink plain effervescent kefir, try to get as much sleep as your body needs...good Omega 3 as suggested by the last poster.
You will be setting a strong foundation for your body if you choose to take antibiotics or herbals for lyme in the future.
Best wishes Greta
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glm1111
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Very well said Greta! Thanks for the detailed explanation.
Gael
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