Topic: New book on healing with MMS (Chlorine Dioxide) endorsed by famous LLMD
tick battler
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amomwithhope - I can't recall if we spoke about this before, but this protocol works for PANS/PANDAS. Feel free to send me a pm if you want more detail. There is a video about a recovered PANDAS boy and I will try to find it.
And, of course, my 7 year old daughter has PANS and is recovering on it. No longer missing school, now she is sleeping through the night peacefully, no more horrific nightmares, tantrums mostly gone, playing softball, excelling in school, happy, no longer fearful, no more bi-polar behavior, no more multiple personalities, no more sore throats and no more weekly doctor visits trying to figure out what is wrong. Now we know the cause and we know how to CURE it.
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Looking - thank you. Well said.
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MMS is dangerous if one has a genetic problem...persons who are deficient in glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase/toxic exposure to DDT/DDE which IS still in our environment and in our food chain!
"even life-threatening hemolysis in persons who are deficient in glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase."
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Clearly bleaching has to do with oxidation. Some people on this forum don't know what oxidation is and how it works amongst many different chemical compounds and some comments reflect a 3rd grade science mentality generalizing with over simplification of complex scientific chemical interactions.
Our bodies rely on oxidation to be healthy. It is core to why we have lungs and breathe.
Yet any oxidation processes reduce visible color of compounds. Oxidation also kills bacteria within our bodies, on a routine daily basis, with or without MMS.
a generic defination of bleaching is to remove color. This indicates that a chemical reaction has gone on. just because a reaction happens with one thing does not mean it will happen with another. This is why you can swim in a chlorine treated pool and your hair color remains the same as well as your skin color and the color of your bathing suit... yet cholorine is known for an ability to bleach when it is strong. Yet in a pool it kills microbes without killing or damaging you when it is properly diluted in a swimming pool.
the effect that the element chlorine has depends on its compounded structure and exactly what other compounds it comes into contact with.
There are a hell of a lot of chlorine molecules in your body. It is essential to your life. Consider hydrochloric acid, and sodium chloride for instance, as just two of many.
If you look at the science of MMS (sodium chlorite or when activated, chlorine dioxide) you will find that free chlorine is never released from this compound.
I dont know much about methalation issues, but I hear it being called genetic by some people. I seriously doubt this at least on the level that it was inherited genetically . Most likely caused by chemical exposures, vaccinations, herbicides, pesticides, plastics, estrogenic substances and usage of drugs like antibiotics and others. You cant keep pumping that junk into you and not expect to pay. Genetics can be damaged by drugs. Sometimes they can be repaired by detoxing those drugs and other toxins. These toxicities can also predispose people to huge issues with parasites and microbs of all sorts because they have damaged their systems in their most core structures and abilities to transfer informaiton. Much can and will go askew.
We are clearly seeing from these kids that have autism that the damages can be reversed with proper diet and detox.
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Carmen - great points! I totally agree with you on the methylation thing. We are seeing many kids with methylation issues get well on the CD protocol. Getting rid of the bacteria, viruses, bacteria, candida, heavy metals and PARASITES changes everything.
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Thank you, Tick Battler, for the video link.
I am still researching this, so I appreciate all the information I can get, both pro and con.
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Autism - underlying cause maybe (1) genetic, (2)infections - candida and others (including those found in dried milk formulas - dried formula cannot be sterilized!) and or (3) toxins that crossed the placental barrier.
If ClO2 is so powerful on microbes, why does it not destroy probiotics? Or does it?
The metabolites of ClO2 are chlorite and chlorate.
The maximum acceptable concentration (MAC) for chlorite in drinking water is 1 mg/L. The MAC for chlorate in drinking water is 1 mg/L. A guideline for chlorine dioxide is not required because of
its rapid reduction to chlorite in drinking water.
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Marnie: Kerri Rivera attributes autism primarily to an overgrowth of bacteria, viruses, candida, heavy metals and PARASITES. There are factors that predispose the child to autism such as chemicals and vaccines and poor diet, causing a weakened immune system and hence greater susceptibility to infections and inflammation.
Because CD and the Kalcker parasite protocol cure autism, clearly we can see that infections are the number one cause. Wipe out the infections and parasites, clean up the diet and the child heals because the immune system and the gut can have a fresh start.
But yes, each generation of children is more and more toxic, due to the chemicals and infections and parasites and heavy metals passed on to the fetus. And then assault the child's immune system even more with tons of flu shots and vaccines (4 vaccines at once) and the child's immune system falls apart.
And add to the fact that with world travel, we have every tropical parasite and worm here in the USA.
And finally, to top it off, our doctors and our population do not believe we have worms or that they cause any harm and need to be treated. We deworm our dogs and horses. But why would we do such a thing for ourselves??
So, I wonder why autism and ADHD and asthma and allergies and depression keep growing? Autism is now 1 in 50. When I was a child it was 1 in 10,000. What are we going to do when it is 1 in 2? That is not far off. What will it take for mainstream medicine to wake up?
It's really so simple. So obvious. Right in front of us and we can't see it. So sad.
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I had a major problem with mercury toxicity. I did the dmps challenge test and was in the low 20's. I had 18 fillings and started getting them replaced, took about 3 years. At the time I did not know I had Lyme.
My son was displaying similar symptoms and I thought he might also have heavy metal and or mercury toxicity. This again was before he was diagnosed with Lyme. He took the challenge test and was only a few points lower than me. He has not had a single silver filling.
Now something was holding onto the mercury, I would think from his shots, even before he got Lyme. He did display ADD like symptoms as a child.
Once we discovered he had been bitten and was tested for Lyme I can understand the body holding on to the mercury, but his body was retaining it even before the Lyme.
So the increase in Autism is alarming but apparently there really is a significant amount of heavy metal and other toxins that our kids are exposed to.
I have not gotten challenge tested to see if my mercury has gone down further since I have been using MMS though.
All the Best, MattH
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Thanks for sharing, Matt. I have heard from many docs that worms absorb and hold onto mercury and other toxins and heavy metals. This is one reason why there is such die off when we kill them because so much junk is released into our bodies. So, clearing the parasites helps clear the mercury.
Since being on MMS, my son showed NO MERCURY when we last tested him through EDS testing! It was wonderful to see because in the past, he has always shown it when tested prior to being on the CD protocol.
I don't doubt that heavy metals and toxins are a contributor to autism. I did mention this above; but I still strongly believe that parasites and an overload of infections are the biggest factor.
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From a cardiac surgeon and not too hard to read (her take on the dangers of MMS):
"Nitrites and *chlorites* are thought to act synergistically to produce MetHb.
Neonates and persons with G-*-PD deficiency are likely to be unusually susceptible to MetHb formation from these compounds because their red cells lack the metabolic machinery to
adequately protect against oxidant stress.
Since male blacks represent the largest population in the U.S. to be G-6PD deficient, Black male neonates may represent the group at highest risk to the use of chlorine dioxide as a disinfectant in the nations water supplies."
PMID:753950
Methemoglobin basically results in the inability of blood to carry oxygen within the body causing cyanosis (lack of oxygen to the system).
MMS looks to “oxidize” Mn = manganese and Fe = iron (et al) which
several pathogens depend upon (agreed)
BUT
SO DO WE – especially iron to carry oxygen.
IMO...too much collateral damage.
AND antioxidants cannot be taken at the same time as MMS. We need antioxidants to protect our cells and our DNA from oxidative damage.
The above is VERY easy to read and VERY interesting.
Many of the BENEFICIAL microbes may suffer as a result of MMS.
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Matt - I forgot to mention that Kerri does incorporate gentle chelation with supplements into the CD protocol after a few months into it.
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I appreciate the links and the first hand experiences of this thread.
I am completely neutral about this treatment type.
I like to learn new things and just wanted to say thanks for sharing TickBattler.
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Thank you guys for this conversation. My metabolic specialist who has a PhD recommends I do this. I've had Lyme for 20 years but have been debilitated for the last 3 and I had some success with an LLMD until she told me I was in remission. Clearly I wasn't and have been getting no help via the mainstream. The CD sounds like a miracle and I know it's going to be a long haul. I'm ready for it!
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Hey, trishden, I was just looking at this thread again recently. Keep us posted. I may have to give it more of a go than I previously did.
I would love to hear an update from tickbattler.
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FDA warned consumers not to consume or use Miracle Mineral Solution, an oral liquid solution also known as "Miracle Mineral Supplement" or "MMS." The product, when used as directed, produces an industrial bleach that can cause serious harm to health
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Trishden, my husband did it again and he said it killed a bunch of stuff and recommends it.
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So it has been a while since I updated. I continue to use MMS about 4 days a week and have added a strong rife machine with my current doug coil routine.
My Health Insurance would not allow long term the ABX combo I needed so I decided to go a different direction. Because I have had the Lyme, Bart and CPN for so long (at least 15 years), I do not think the ABX can reasonably get to the bugs or to get through whatever is protecting the bugs.
Since I have been using by doug coil and rife machine for CPN my cough has gone done dramatically. This is by far the best result from any of the energetic medicine approaches I have tried. I had a CPN resurgence this summer and that is why I went back to the ABX, but I could not get a monthly dose of Azith, I could only get 60 tablets every 90 days. And felt the cough return during the time I did not have the Azith.
The Ondamed machine (through a practitioner) seems the best at hitting the Bart, my lower legs feel really good for a couple of days after the treatment. However I have to drive so far for a treatment I am at about once every two months now.
My approach, it is a theory that could be mostly wrong, is to hit the bugs with the doug coil and rife and get them moving then hit them with the MMS when they are on the move.
I am only modestly herxing on my two machines so I have begun much longer sessions that seem to be helping. I use the machines about 6 times a week. I have been using both machines at night now instead of alternating nights for about a week.
Still have many neuro issues (memory and motivation) and am obviously interested in seeing what three months on this protocol will do.
All the Best, MattH
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Anyway, tell your husband thanks Catgirl, I'm glad to hear he's had success with the CD/MMS.
I have a lot of killing to do. I not only have lyme but I'm waiting on igenex test result for bart, babs, and elichia.
I highly suspect bart because of the burning feet and my son has a confirmed case of babs. On top of that I have a high count of HSV1 (which the metabolic specialist said I better control or I'll end up with Alzheimer's) and Epstein Barr, CMV, mycoplasma, annaplasm and a raging case of candida that nothing is touching.
So I have a lot to kill. I'm glad to hear MattH that you have had some success with the MMS, I haven't gone the rife or coil route yet but I was doing a homemade Hulga Clark zapper, didn't feel like it was doing much, but maybe if I didn't have it I would be way worse off.
I hear ya about the mainstream, I've had it with them and I have good insurance. I think my last bad turn was because the antibiotics did me in, as soon as they put me on tindimax, BAM I was raging with candida and I've been bad ever since.
I'm just really excited about this MMS/CD that it will take care of the viruses and yeast too. My specialist said she has had amazing results with treating her autistic kids. She says sometimes it is a miraculous turn around after only a day, from no eye contact, drooling, not talking, to all of a sudden coming out of their shell.
Since I've been reading Kerri's book I have found that there is a faction of the researchers who believe that the autistic kids are suffering from some of the same problems us lymies have which is an overabundance of pathogens, viruses, yeasts and parasites all bundled up in biofilms just making us all miserable.
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