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So, I am going through a rough patch here for the last 6 months. I was doing increasingly better, then was hit with gradually getting worse.
How do you know when it's Lyme and cos re-emerging, and when it's the collateral damage done?
Is there some kind of check-list to go through to make sure nothing's been missed?
Also having trouble tolerating meds (Nystatin for Candida, which I posted separately.)
Been effected by Lyme since 2000. Diagnosed in 2005. Began treatment with LLMD. I'm on my 3rd doctor now. Each has had their strengths and given good help. But now it's 2014 and I'm still sick, and haven't been able to work in 14 years.
Thanks so much for listening and for any insights you may have! Posts: 873 | From WA | Registered: Dec 2005
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GretaM
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I don't know
I wonder this myself quite often.
Just wanted to send you a cyber hug.
You're not alone with this struggle. We're all right here beside you, to help support you when you feel like you are losing the fight.
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No good kinesiology or energy tests = lost in limbo...
With energy test: 1) you can find what infections are active, where are they mostly active, what medicines to take for each place, if the medicine is reaching the area, how much should you take in a day, what to do to make it reach the area.
2) you can test what to take to clean the mess of killing (herxes). And keep changing all cleaning stuff as you need.
3) you can see if you have heavy metals, where exactly they are, which remedies to take, how much, how often.
4) you can test if your mind is blocking healing, like your brain telling (don't get better, or I cannot heal, or I will never heal, or I may not heal) for whatever reasons. A good and fast method to heal that is PK, pschokinesiology from dr. K.
5) you can see which hormones are missing, and how to fix these with natural remedies or homeopathy, or accupuncture.
6) you can test main acupunture meridians and points, and make a home treatment for them.
7) you can test each single organ, in three levels (organ function, matrix or lymph from each organ, cells from each organ) to see if they are healthy, in trouble, ill. Then make a treatment for each trouble you found. Dr. K. teaches that.
8) you can test all minerals, to see how deficient your are, and then test supplements to see if they fit your needs, how much to take etc.
9) you can check all your food intolerances and allergies. It's amazing to see how food intolerances affect our health, our body, our energy.
10) you can test electrosmog, if this is an issue for you
The only problem is that most people do not believe in energy tests. I didn't, in the past.
Lyme treatment made me see, that if I didn't use that, I had no choice than let myself die.
Or when people do believe in energy tests, they do not always find good methods /practioners doing that. Energy tests are just a tool, you need a good method behind to make good use of it.
I always wonder how can people get better without energy tests. I would be certainly still sick or dead without them.
They are not always right, but it's much better than shooting in the dark.
There are too many variables for a guessing game in total darkness.
Can you imagine you can be simply sick because of a single root canal tooth? Or just because of a bad scar from an ancient accident? Hard to believe, right?
It's just when you treat them, and get better, that you know that it is possible to get sick from things like scars and tooth.
This is just my opinion. I'm a lyme survivor, so is my daughter. Really, without energy tests, we would be still searching around.
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I wonder the same thing hopeful. It gets discouraging. Brussels, your list is helpful.
I wonder if any here have tried ASYRA testing or ONDAMED? Both are supposed to be able to test the body for weak areas and may be similar to kinesiology or energetic testing.
I just had my first ONDAMED treatment a few days ago and the day after, I felt almost normal. It had been so long since I felt this way. Unfortunately, my symptoms have since all returned, but one good day was a blessing. I am going back this week and hope it will make a difference.
My practitioner is new at it and she says that seasoned ONDAMED practitioners are much more accurate at doing the assessments. But the treatment itself can heal damaged tissue and increase blood circulation. All good things for someone with TBI.
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LOVE Brussel's post! She's right, energy testing is an incredible tool.
Hopeful, it can be any one of a number of things really. Have you read Doc H's new book, Why Can't I Get Better? It has a road map to help you find what's going on. Also, Brussel's post is really good.
Dbpei, yes. Ondamed is wonderful at opening things up, repairing and clearing stuff. Asyra is more telling and finds the detailed stuff, so they work great together. Both are great tools, but IMO energy testing is necessary on a day to day basis. At the very least, I would learn how to muscle test.
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I am a visual learner and it takes a lot for me to absorb things and have confidence that I know what I am doing. Do you know if there are ever any workshops offered in energy testing for the lay person? It would be so great to have this skill!
It would be hard to travel outside my geographic area, but hoping there might be some online workshops offered... Any info would be greatly appreciated!
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I hear you about the confidence thing. It took me a while to gain it. I wasn't sure if I was doing it right, but I was. It's easy, you can do it too. :)
There are some workshops on the internet for a fee, but it's the same stuff that's on the youtubes for free. My doc showed me with a pendulum, but the youtubes helped the most. There are so many of them. Here's one that's easy to do:
If you want to double check your work, you can either try another muscle test (different type on youtube), or find someone to muscle test you.
There are other alternative practitioners who also happen to muscle test, and some will teach you for a small fee. You just have to hunt around for them.
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Great Idea Brussels, thanks. I have looked into this before but have forgotten about it. I am glad this post reminded me about it.
@ dbpei.....I found some videos on Youtube that explain and demonstrate some different types of energy testing, it was helpful to me.
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Greta, your cyber-hug is well –received, and back to you, too.
Brussels, I printed out your response. I’ve made an appointment for AK testing for Lyme and the coinfections.
I have recently been tested for the food sensitivities, but am having a difficult time implementing the 5 day rotation. It might take some time to get there, I’m having challenges with change.
I will ask about the different things you’ve suggested.
Dbpei – I’m not familiar with ASYRA or ONDAMED. I’ll have to read up on that. I’m glad to hear that you’re getting good results.
Catgirl – I have Dr. H’s new book. I’ve read bits and pieces. My brain is not fully engaged, so comprehension is down. But I have found helpful info in the book.
Yes, learning how to do self-energy testing can be helpful. Have you heard of the “sway test”?
Let’s say you want to know whether your supplement is good for you. Stand, relax, hold the supplement or bottle in your hands. Ask yourself: Is this good for me? If you sway forward, that = yes. If you sway backward, that = no. Sounds crazy.
For some reason, it resonates with me. I can tell immediately if it’s a yes or no. Sometimes my body doesn’t sway, so it’s neutral.
I’m new at it. You can also test foods. Some days a food may be a yes, other days a no…interesting. I’m also experimenting with asking questions for making decisions…the jury’s out on that one so far.
Thanks everyone.
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Oh, I just clicked on the youtube video from Catgirl, and it actually is the Sway Test! Thanks.
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I agree so much woth energy testing but the problem for me is that my mind seems to sway the answer. I have a biotensor and when I ask it a question, if I think yes it will go up and down for yes. if I think no, it will go back and forth for no.
Brussels, do you know another good way to muscle test?
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I have the same problem as birdie67...would love to be able to use a pendulum or similar method, but my mind seems to put a "charge" on the device and then it is very inaccurate.
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Yes. I tried the sway testing with my cell phone by my chest and wouldn't you know, I moved forward! I wonder if this might be because of the damage to my vestibular system (8th cranial nerve). I will keep researching this though. Thanks for all the suggestions, catgirl and pebbles.
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Birdie, Razzle, Dbpei, maybe something hand held isn't your thing. A tensor or pendulum are no better or worse than the sway method or any other form (just tools). The body's response and results are the same. Whatever works.
I haven't mastered a tensor (mind was getting in the way), but the sway and hand methods are simple, fast and easy for me to do anywhere. No need to pull out a pendulum or tensor at the vitamin shoppe (lol).
Dbpei, the cell phone probably gave you a reverse response.
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Guys, dont forget to check if your regulation is open begore you do any other tests. If it is blocked(which is the case for most lymies), you can't test anything.
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