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Recently started having Myers cocktail IV push. I started 3 weeks ago, 1 per week.
I'm wondering what other peoples' experiences are with Myers cocktails.
With the first IV, I did notice feeling better and more energetic. Yesterday I had an IV, and today feel tired, draggy, achy and have diarrhea.
From January thru July, I had what seems like a relapse. Debilitating fatigue, and increased cognitive problems.
Got retested and came up with a number of viral coinfections, lyme and anaplasma.
My doctor says that the IV Myers will help my body fight these infections. I'm also doing some herbals.
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- I'm not sure it could be called a herx, exactly, as the ingredients (other than maybe vitamin C) are not directly anti-spirochetal, still . . . indeed, your experience is not unique.
Experiences that clobber us later may be more of an adrenal or reaction "payback" considering variable factors:
Push vs. IV Drip - a push is much, mush harder to tolerate (about 20 minutes of literally PUSHING this stuff into a vessel fast). That is not how the body works and the body is in a degree of surprise . . . Drips were much better for me. Slower. But if I tried to speed them up, disaster.
even the needle can induce stress.
Did you go straight home and stay low key, drink lots of water for at least a full day?
One mistake, understandably that I and others have made is not doing that, using up that energy burst and then we drop, with "payback" that can have same symptoms as a herx.
Is your adrenal support all there?
Just GETTING there, BEING there both in the waiting room and treatment room, getting back . . . all that can be too much on some days.
Hot weather, higher pollution from summer heat, the degree of vehicular exhaust you take in along the way . . .
If you are getting smoke from wild fires, that can be a big part of all this, too. Puts the body at increased stress and then the slightest effort or exertion can tip us over.
The MIX. Was it correct for your body on that day? Too much of one thing or not enough of another?
GLUTAMINE / GLUTAMIC ACID or other excitatory amino acids in the mix? See detail next.
Was the formula decided upon by a LLMD or LL ND? If not, that could be the problem. Others who may do "energy" support can just blast someone with lyme right out of the water. The adrenals cannot take any kind of energy push. -
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- Check all supplements and assess diet (and anything that comes into our bodies for:
See post: Caution: Aspartate; Glutamine; and Phenylalanine (3 excitatory amino acids that can be wrong for us when added as supplements, beyond a normal dietary level)
Seaweed has its own natural MSG and can be very excitatory -
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- MTHFR / Methylation issues? -
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- Editing after I remembered a push is using more of a giant syringe rather than an IV bag. The same questions would apply about what the syringe is made of, how hot it has gotten ? (Even if not pre-loaded with solution, some petroleum chemicals can leech to the surface, then mix when solution is added.) Anything new about that in any way?
At the very least, be sure any syringe or bag is BPA-free and free of similar compounds. These are endocrine disruptors in a lot of plastics and have been linked to other harmful effects, too.
Still, just FYI, I'll keep this here:
Was the IV bag solution the same as times you did okay? Ask. Sometimes, the solution mix may be different. The supply is tight now and there are substitutions that could make a difference.
Even the kind of plastic used for the bag could matter. And that has been changed for some suppliers.
I assume you are certain the staff where you go is tip-top in how they handle & prepare everything but if you have any question at all, check it out.
I'd ask if the IV bag are kept at a certain temperature in transport and once delivered. They should not get too warm as then the plastic can leech into the solution.
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Wow, so much to take into consideration. Thank you for your indepth answers. I took the day to recover today, and am feeling better this evening.
Adrenal support – yes, it’s good.
Mistake, but felt I had to – After the IV I met up with 2 special life-long friends who live in another state and were passing through town. Haven’t seen them in a year, and frankly, don’t socialize much at all. Had lunch and a small walk, total 2 hours. So I did overdo it a bit. Then went home to rest.
The IV Push – The first two times it went fine, expert nurse. This time, nurse inserted needle, assistant managed the push itself. I think it was a little less comfortable. Perhaps I’ll look into the drip.
Yes, the energy and effort it takes to get there, be there has an impact. I had to wait nearly an hour because one of their nurses was out sick. Therefore, I was more tired when the IV got started.
My MD is LL and made up the formula.
My supplements were recently tested with AK.
Yes, methylation issues are being addressed.
I will ask about the solution. I’m pretty sure it was the same. They use some kind of a special needle material that people don’t react to.
I contacted my doctor today, and he said I was herxing, and to drink a lot of water. Also, that the next couple of times I have the IV, I will probably be herxing. At least knowing this, I can deal.
Best wishes.
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