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Every time I try to bring myself to read it, I reread your thoughts, scan the page with words of "formaldehyde ", and quickly exit out....too upset. All I can then think, is for whatever reason( changing states maybe) my son had an EXTRA MMR shot Then I go to freak out mode. Not sure when I'll ever be able to bring myself to read it. Posts: 2214 | From West Chester, PA | Registered: Aug 2003
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Oh come on! This has all been approved by our gov agencies so all these vaccinations and uber vaccine combos must be safe for our little ones, right?
Seriously, this is frightening.
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- The idea, the theory of vaccination has some excellent value. This is not about that at all (well, other then the number of vaccines that are considered required)
the idea, the theory has some value, and has kept many of us safe from polio, etc.
However, what I see as a potential concern for everyone is what has happened with the INGREDIENTS.
Several vaccination caused my body severe issues that were debilitating for over a year - at different times. Had I not been ill with lyme first, I may not have had such effects. Still,
the links here are for education / awareness. What's really in these shots? What have been the effects for many (even if not most)?
What do we need to know?
Will anyone ever make a vaccine that does not contain neurotoxic additives? I think they should but the additives are not being seen as important. They are, though, they really are.
There have to be safer ways to preserve the key ingredients.
Along the lines of truth (a good basic set of links to learn more / have in your file):
The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is a national charitable, non-profit educational organization founded in 1982.
NVIC launched the vaccine safety and informed consent movement in America in the early 1980's and is the oldest and largest consumer led organization advocating for the institution of vaccine safety and informed consent protections in the public health system.
Our Mission
The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is dedicated to the prevention of vaccine injuries and deaths through public education and to defending the informed consent ethic in medicine.
As an independent clearinghouse for information on diseases and vaccines, NVIC does not advocate for or against the use of vaccines.
We support the availability of all preventive health care options, including vaccines, and the right of consumers to make educated, voluntary health care choices.
The "vaccine" link here has many sections, including ingredients, what you need to know, etc.
Do you think they do 5 vaccines in one, so that they need LESS formaldehyde or LESS aluminium /mercury, LESS preservatives, LESS chicken proteins, and other chemicals?
No. The vaccine makers are so busy to do that. They simply add ONE BY ONE, all these single vaccines in one pot, stir them and inject in our babies at once, so that the parents come only once, not 5 times, for vaccination! And babies suffer less needle pain!
So yeah: 5 times formaldehyde dose at once, 5 times aluminium dose, 5 times chicken protein (to grow healthier)! This in newly born babies, then 3 to 4 months later, AGAIN same 5 dose cocktail!!
No wonder our babies grow so strong (with high intake of chicken protein) and disinfected (with formaldehyde!!). Plus the heavy metals: we may use our children as antennas for our cell phones one day?
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- VACCINE "COURT"
Of course, one might well argue that the best protection is to not harm in the first place. Still, just sharing what's in the news today. And that there is no real "protection" after injury. The use of that term is harmful in and of itself in the manner used.
Still, this is important in that they at least admit there are risks. I hope people will look beyond the surface of this, though.
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. . . The main source of dietary exposure to aluminum is in food additives—most commonly found in processed foods. Chronic use of antacids and buffered aspirins also increase our exposure to aluminum.
A few years go, we reported that the government’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, under public pressure, was phasing out some (but not all) mercury-containing vaccines.
At the same time, six more vaccines were added to the CDC schedule—and all of them contained aluminum as an adjuvant. (Adjuvants are substances added to vaccines to enhance the body’s immune response.) . . .
. . . Importantly, ingesting aluminum in food is very different than having it directly injected. Only a small percentage of aluminum is absorbed into the body when it is eaten, but just about all of it is absorbed into the body when it is injected.
This is because anything ingested is sent to the liver for detoxification before being absorbed into the bloodstream, whereas vaccines are injected directly into the blood with no chance for the liver to remove it first.
Additionally, different people process heavy metals, toxins, and even nutrients differently because of genetic variances called polymorphisms —
- meaning that some people are at greater risk due to their bio-individuality — which underscores the importance of not forcing everyone to take the same vaccines in the same way.
We need to keep in mind that aluminum has a long-documented history of neurotoxic effects:
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- [Posted by LymeToo in a recent thread on a different topic: Fluoroquinolones and Autism]
Synergistic Destruction: How Vaccines and GMOs Converge to Fuel Autism and Neurodegenerative Conditions
By: Dr. Matthew Buckley, PSc.D.
Excerpts:
. . . What is microglial activation?
In short, the microglia are the resident immune cells within the central nervous system. . . .
. . . That “surveillance mode” role of the microglia, can be shifted into an inflammatory and destructive state where they secrete toxic substances (glutamate) and break down the neurons.
That destructive state is referred to as “microglial activation”. . . .
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- In above post / article, dangers of GLUTAMATE are discussed in reference to vaccine ingredients. More detail on that, as it's also abundant in many supplements from typical "vitamin stores" that promise quick energy -- and that kind of thing can be disaster for those with lyme.
See post: Caution: Aspartate; Glutamine; and Phenylalanine (3 excitatory amino acids that can be wrong for us when added as supplements, beyond a normal dietary level)
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- There are some "preservative free" vaccines on the market - some are a nasal mist. As with injectable, it's best to get a full ingredient list for the specific medicine in advance so some degree of homework can be done.
Just because it's "preservative free" does not necessarily mean free of additives.
And, some preservatives may be required so the product does not spoil.
Some preservatives, some additives are not safe as most discussion above voices concern - yet some are okay (such as if from citrus, etc.)- but it's just not so easy as moving quickly without some homework.
Then, whatever our choice, whatever is being administered:
It's important to always see the vial and take note of the lot number, manufacturer, expiration date, etc. at the time of getting any kind of Rx, really. Just good to write that down in case some later reference is required.
Also, if it requires refrigeration, be sure your provider is properly storing it at every juncture and that they have a back up generator.
This all sounds a bit over the top, and I would have said so years ago. But, there have been so many instances where things go wrong so it is important to be sure.
For any shot, also be sure that the needle and syringe are both fresh for you.
Just this month, at one particular place, many vaccines were administered and while the needles were each new to patient, the syringes were not new for each patient. That matters to prevent disease transfer when drawing from the same vial as used for others.
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Im not sure I want this ingredient put inside me(its in the shingles vaccine):
MRC-5-- Medical Research Council 5, human diploid cells (cells containing two sets of chromosomes) derived from the normal lung tissues of a 14-week-old male fetus aborted for "psychiatric reasons" in 1966 in the United Kingdom, Earle's Basal Medium in Earle's balanced salt solution with bovine serum.
Well, that aborted boy would be about 50 years old now-- and he was deprived of his life so that I could have the bogus Shingles vaccine-- that doesn't even work-- and so that Merck could make a lot of money? No thanks.
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Fluad: Food and Drug Administration Approves a New, Boosted Flu Vaccine
by Maggie Fox - NBC News - Nov 25 2015
Excerpts:
. . . It's the first flu vaccine to include what's called an adjuvant — a compound that helps stimulate the immune system so that a vaccine is more effective. . . .
. . . Fluad contains MF59, an oil-in-water mixture that includes squalene, an oily nutrient produced by the liver, and some preservatives. . . .
. . . it doesn’t contain the mercury-based preservative, thimerosal. But it certainly contains other risky ingredients, the most concerning of which is MF59C.1.
This is an adjuvant composed of
squalene,
polysorbate 80, and
sorbitan trioleate in citrate buffer, an oil-in-water emulsion similar to the controversial adjuvant which was added to the GlaxoSmithKline ‘pandemic’ influenza vaccine used in 2009 and 2010.
Apart from the
* three inactivated influenza viruses and
* the MF59C.1 [the new adjuvant described above]
FLUAD contains a long list of other ingredients and traces of materials used in the manufacturing process, some of which could be problematic:
sodium and potassium chloride,
potassium dihydrogen phosphate,
disodium phosphate dehydrate,
magnesium chloride hexahydrate,
calcium chloride dehydrate,
neomycin,
kanamycin,
residual egg protein,
formaldehyde,
cetyltrimethylammonium bromide and
barium. . . .
[This article continues with very good detail and explicit concerns about MF59C.1, the new adjuvant. Be sure to go to link and read the full article for the best awareness. Print it out in case it disappears from the web.] -
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1/3 of the way down: [section] After Regular Flu Shot Fails Them, Seniors Are Told to Get a Higher Dose -
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thank you guys for keeping this life saver thread up.
At least, if anyone gets vaccines, they had a chance to read about them and cannot say 'I didn't know anything about it', like I said...
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- Not a day goes by, not one single day, that I don't read some "regular" article on a "regular" topic and the writer / reporter slides in a comparison something like "idiot = anti-vaccine folks" -
- in what I like to think of as relatively good journalism websites like BBC, Salon.com, Washington Post (and, yeah, the NYT which I know is bought by Big Pharm) but - again, this comparison is in articles that are not always even about health issues.
I can't place the site, though an article this weekend was on how the brain works regarding thinking & biases & changing attitudes . . . logical thinking, etc. -
- just out of the blue, the author used as an example of faulty thinking = those who are against vaccines. That just came out of left field in relation to the article's contents.
Huffington Post and The New Yorker have been very disappointing in their many references as well - but none more disappointing than NPR / PBS. They fail at proper research outside of the government / pharma groups.
It's as if those who are against vaccines (or even if not so much the vaccine but the additives - or any part of the way they are made / given in such high frequency . . . or those who have suffered ill effects) have been traded as the butt of a joke as the "flat earth thinkers"
- it's as if all media outlets have schooled all their writers to interject this bullying and labeling. It's very tiring to keep stumbling across such references made by those who are supposed to have an open mind and really want to seek all aspects of it, getting to the bottom of things, etc.
Very disappointed in journalism. Yet, glad to see that there are some outlets where we can read, study and learn more. -
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It makes me sick they push these stupid vaccines, and people believe them. But then some people don't believe in global warming either. The facts are there but they still don't want to believe it.
-------------------- --Keep an open mind about everything. Also, remember to visit ACTIVISM (we can change things together). Posts: 5418 | From earth | Registered: Mar 2011
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Mentioned above, this article is from this past spring, somehow I just stumbled upon it this weekend.
Can high intelligence be a burden rather than a boon? David Robson investigates.
By David Robson - BBC Future series - 14 April 2015
Excerpts:
. . . [section] Mental Blind Spots
The harsh truth, however, is that greater intelligence does not equate to wiser decisions; in fact, in some cases it might make your choices a little more foolish. . . .
. . . Indeed, Stanovich sees these biases in every strata of society. “There is plenty of dysrationalia – people doing irrational things despite more than adequate intelligence – in our world today,” he says.
“The people pushing the anti-vaccination meme on parents and spreading misinformation on websites are generally of more than average intelligence and education.”
Clearly, clever people can be dangerously, and foolishly, misguided. . . .
[Full article at link above. There really were some interesting thoughts but now I'm concerned that the author may have made other errors in his own thought process and might have missed some things.]
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And just how misguided was this author's research on that "example" of his? Very much so, in my opinion, research - and in my personal experiences from being clobbered various times with vaccines that went very wrong for me.
I do not understand why so many journalists are afraid at looking at the full list of ingredients and at the full recommended schedule. How is that easy for them to dismiss?
Partly, because, many do seem to do okay and those who don't are seen as "less" than those that do okay. That's also one way the brain works in a lot of people. Big Sigh. -
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You do know McStupid was shipped out to the vaccine world again? Kind of a vicious circle- kick Lyme patients, kick parents of autistic children and kick those with concerns about vaccines. The ugly trash he spew about us for two decades is now being dished out in other arenas.
- By Nicholas Kristof - The New York Times, Sunday Review - Nov. 28, 2015
Excerpts:
. . . virtually every pregnant woman in America has at least 43 different chemical contaminants in her body. . . .
. . . “Emerging evidence ties endocrine-disrupting chemical exposure to two of the biggest public health threats facing society — diabetes and obesity,” the Endocrine Society said in announcing its 150-page “scientific statement.” It added that “mounting evidence” also ties endocrine disrupters to . . . .
. . . Of the 80,000 or more chemicals in global commerce today, only a tiny share have been rigorously screened for safety. Even when a substance is retired because of health concerns, the replacement chemical may be just as bad. . . .
. . . The chemical lobby spent the equivalent of $121,000 per member of Congress last year, so expect chemical companies to enjoy strong quarterly profits, more boys to be born with hypospadias and more women to die unnecessarily of breast cancer. . . .
. . . For now, experts say the best approach is for people to try to protect themselves. . . .
. . . try to eat organic, reduce the use of plastics, touch cash register receipts as little as possible, try to avoid flame-retardant couches and consult the consumer guides at www.ewg.org [Environmental Working Group] . . . .
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Here in Europe it is THE SAME. The media is controlled by a small group of people, who take their information in the same place and end up publishing the same type of information.
It's mostly DISinformation!
It is not only in the health field, but all fields. Politics, economy...
If you still believe we are living in democratic countries, how can it be that we have no access to factual information?
Why is there only ONE type of information, in 99% of the media?
No government or media speaks about EMF used as weapons.
when you have a funny totally out of the box scientist coming out with good information, they bash the guy and make him a quack.
Same for good physicians.
So that insurance will only pay for the DRUG treatment, and not for treatments that REALLY can help.
What was done to homeopathy and what it is happening is a crime. On one side, the media says 'it's pure placebo, it cannot work, just think and you'll see'.
More people like you and me, ignore that comment because word spread from mouth to mouth. Here, there is a huge force pushing homeopathy to be destroyed.
Not only by bashing it orally, but by FORBIDDING sales of homeopathic remedies, including BORRELIA NOSODES that saved my life and my child's life.
Barely anywhere we can find Borrelia nosodes today.
They are smarter than us: they eliminate about 10-20 remedies per month, forbid companies to sell for 'SAFETY' reasons.
if they take ALL HERBS, ALL SUPPLEMENTS, ALL HOMEOPATHICS AT ONCE, we will complain. They don't do that.
They do slowly, one by one. Today, I can't find borrelia nosodes all over, like I could 10 years ago. Now, only a few pharmacies sell these. They will disappear soon, I have no doubt, unless there is a strong popular movement against it.
As for vaccines, there is fear, because it is obvious that too many people are getting side effects (including death). Word spread by mouth, internet.
These corporate groups are getting afraid, in my opinion. There will be a coca bottle explosion one day. I hope soon.
Just look at our lyme community. It is a shame, lives lost, years of life lost, just because of lie after lie. Fortunately there are a few alternative thinkers around.
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- Brussels,
Thanks for your note. I'm of course distressed by what you report. Yet, glad your perception skills are working and appreciate your reporting the situation.
People want simplicity. And that's why so many stop at just the mass market "news" -- so it's good to know how to look deeper, further, etc. -
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- Some detail is shared between this thread and the one below. However, there is also some other very important additional information here:
Topic: FDA approves new vaccine for seniors [Squalene added]
27 November, 2015
REALLY important detail about the turbo charged vaccine now targeting senior citizens. Ingredient lists, etc.
Please read & share. Copy the full text of key articles & lists to your computer file . . . or print out so that you have access. Sometimes links expire. -
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New evidence shows that members of a global vaccine committee may have been involved in a massive cover-up regarding the safety of the HPV vaccine.
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The controversy revolves around Dr. Lee’s study finding that Gardasil (Merck’s HPV vaccine) contains HPV L1 gene DNA fragments.
In a separate case study, Dr. Lee found HPV-16 L1 DNA fragments in post-mortem blood samples of a teenager who died six months after receiving three Gardasil injections.
Dr. Lee hypothesizes that the HPV L1 gene DNA fragments bind to aluminum adjuvants in the vaccine and are carried through the blood stream by macrophages to the brain, causing the adverse effects many experience after receiving HPV shots.
Based on this evidence, Dr. Lee called for further study of the HPV vaccines.
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GACVS did this through a presentation at the hearing and an official statement afterward.
However, as Dr. Lee argues in his open letter, the official statement contains numerous—and in his view, intentional—misrepresentations of peer-reviewed science that conflate the facts in an attempt to mislead the public.
Dr. Lee also alleges that members of GACVS knew that the HPV vaccine, more so than other vaccines, caused an increased inflammatory response and the release of cytokines and tumor necrosis factors (TNF)—yet still assured the public that the HPV vaccine was safe.
Release of TNF can cause cell death and a wide range of inflammatory reactions—including death in some instances.
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I just copy pasted one part of the article Keebler posted...
If few people die with vaccines, what about the rest who SURVIVE but may get all those inflammatory effects for years, possibly, for life?
All of us fighting infectious diseases are clueless to know whether our inflammation comeS only due to infections or due to a messed immune reaction caused by OTHER reasons than infection.
When I see the picture of autism, with all the bowel inflammation, gluten allergy or intolerance, viral infections, it is clear that they all have immune problems.
My daughter is not autistic, but her immune problems, since she was a baby and took all these vaccines, look so similar to problems found in autistic children.
So many food and chemical allergies, weak immune system against infections, auto immune reactions, weak reaction against her first tick bite etc...
Go figure if that too EARLY cocktail of vaccines is not the MAIN cause of her messed immune system?
And let's put it clear: what if those cocktail of vaccines mess so much with the immune system that could be the main cause for her fast collapse with lyme and coinfections after her first bite??
What if infectious chronic state persisted just because her immune system got messed, weak, overpowered by inflammatory conditions caused by early vaccinations?
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- Just posted in another thread by LymeToo:
DOCTORS AGAINST VACCINES: The Other Side of the Story is Not Being Told
Health Impact News - February 14, 2016
Short article with:
1. 11:30 video with Dr. Suzanne Humphries, a practicing nephrologist (kidney physician)
2. 16:00 video of Dr. Sherri Tenpenny is a doctor of osteopathy
3. 15-minute video from Dr. Meryl Nass, an M.D. in internal medicine. In this interview she exposes the revolving door that exists between pharmaceutical companies that manufacture vaccines and the U.S. government.
Note: sometimes links disappear. If this is information important to you, you might copy basic details so that there would be some way to retain that detail were the link to disappear. -
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Sodium borate has also been banned in the US as a food additive.
It is also an ingredient in some childhood vaccines.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) list sodium borate as an ingredient in four vaccines: Hepatitis A (Vaqta), HIB/Hepatits B (Comvax), and in two HPV vaccines (Gardasil and Gardasil 9).
It’s astonishing that such a dangerous ingredient is added to vaccines. There are other toxic ingredients in vaccines as well—all “adjuvants”: aluminum, formaldehyde, and polysorbate 80, to name a few.
So, sodium borate is considered a dangerous poison and is too toxic to be used as a food additive—but it’s perfectly safe to inject our children with it? . . . .
Ingredient Watch List: Sodium Borate (Borax)—Is It Safe?
Excerpts:
. . . Borax, scientifically known as sodium borate, has been used for decades as a laundry detergent and insecticide, but lately some people have wondered about its safety.
It’s often recommended as a safer alternative to over-the-counter laundry products, because it’s not stuffed with unknown fragrance and other chemicals.
But now some are debating that idea.
An article last year by Rebecca Sutton, Ph.D. and senior scientist for the Environmental Working Group (EWG), stated that Borax is not a green cleaning ingredient, and that the EWG does not recommend using it to clean your home.
What is Borax?
Borax is a white, powdery, naturally occurring mineral that is also called sodium borate, sodium tetraborate, and dosodium tetraborate. It has been used in cleaning recipes to help boost stain-fighting and grease-cutting power. Many use it to make their own cleaning products, and it’s also found in personal care products like diaper creams, some hand soaps, and some tooth bleaching formulas.
Though generally considered safe, there are some concerns with Borax. The first is that it is an irritant, and can hurt your skin and eyes.
This is especially true with young children, who may transfer it from their hands to their mouths if they find it nearby, so you want to keep it out of reach. . . .
The Environmental Working Group (EWG) reports this week that breathing or touching the mineral—a much-used ingredient in green cleaners—can cause skin and eye irritation and may disrupt hormones and harm the male reproductive system.
The EWG recommends staying away from the naturally occurring salt, a frequent ingredient in cleaners and beauty products. . . . -
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- Changes being recommended to the adult tetanus / diphtheria booster schedule to every 30 years.
Adults don’t need to get tetanus shots every 10 years
because the antibodies last longer than previously thought, according to a study conducted by Oregon Health and Science University.
The researchers found that tetanus and diphtheria boosters every 30 years are adequate. And if this change were to occur, it could save millions in health care costs in America each year.
The findings published in the Clinical Infectious Diseases Journal recommend that the current adult vaccination schedule should be revised (study below) . . . .
. . . Other countries, including the United Kingdom, do not recommend any adult booster shots. . . .
Durability of Vaccine-Induced Immunity Against Tetanus and Diphtheria Toxins: A Cross-sectional Analysis - February 3, 2016.
Excerpt:
. . . Conclusions. These studies demonstrate that durable levels of protective antitoxin immunity exist in the majority of vaccinated individuals.
Together, this suggests that it may no longer be necessary to administer booster vaccinations every 10 years and that the current adult vaccination schedule for tetanus and diphtheria should be revisited.
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- As I was updating this change to other threads about tetanus, I stumbled upon this posted by Lyme Too:
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It's crazy here in CA now - mandatory vaccinations go into effect in July for the upcoming school year. Many parents do not want their kids vaccinated with all this stuff in them and are organizing home schooling throughout the state!
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- Just stumbled upon this documentary from a reader comment in an NPR article today pushing pregnant women to get a flu vaccine so that fetus will also get the vaccine into them before birth.
Another commenter posted that the study did not at all look at other variables, only if flu shots had been given. So, the study seems not complete.
It may be true that mercury is no longer used in SOME vaccines, yet be sure to see the links in various posts above for other additives such as aluminum, etc.
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Robin, what a crazy thing... parents having to pull children from school due to compulsory vaccinations!!!
I mean, I love the idea of homeschooling but not when there is ANY other CHOICE!
I sometimes think about EMRs and what they are doing to our children in school, some with massive amounts of wifi on their brains and organs for so many hours a day...
So many pretty small children suffer from headaches. I wonder how is it possible? I have no memory of my childhood pals suffering from HEADACHES!?
I never had headache in all my childhood, never heard any kid having that either.
I think we need a revolution, really. I just got a pamphlet from her German school explaining about vaccination schedules for my daughter (I stopped vaccinations since she was 2 and got massive allergies to so many food stuff...).
I hope they won't bother me more than informing...
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- [Editing to add: usually I post who tuned me into a new article, etc. I just noticed that I forgot to attribute this detail to a post LymeToo placed elsewhere, so, thanks to her, we can learn safety matters.]
Anytime one enters hospital building, "even for a stubbed toe" vaccines are a forced topic. And there is a computer tracking you on this.
You have the right to say "no" - however, if in a surgery and you sign a form for "biologics" that includes vaccines - and so much more that is questionable for those with immune issues.
Mandatory Vaccinations: Precedent and Current Laws
May 21, 2014 - 14 pages
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. . . Vaccination Orders During a Public Health Emergency
Many states also have laws providing for mandatory vaccinations during a public health emergency or outbreak of a communicable disease. Generally, the power to order such actions rests with the governor of the state or with a state health officer.
For example, a governor may have the power to supplement the state’s existing compulsory vaccination programs and institute additional programs in the event of a civil defense emergency period.58
Or, a state health officer may, upon declaration of a public health emergency, order an individual to be vaccinated “for communicable diseases that have significant morbidity or mortality and present a severe danger to public health.”59
In addition, exemptions may be provided for medical reasons or where
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objections are based on religion or conscience.60 However, if a person refuses to be vaccinated, he or she may be quarantined during the public health emergency giving rise to the vaccination order.
State statutes may also provide additional authority to permit specified groups of persons to be trained to administer vaccines during an emergency in the event insufficient health care professionals are available for vaccine administration.61 . . . .
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. . . Under the Model Act, during a public health emergency, the appropriate public health authority would be authorized to “vaccinate persons as protection against infectious disease and to prevent the spread of contagious or possibly contagious disease.”65
The Model Act requires that the vaccine be administered by a qualified person authorized by the public health authority, and that the vaccine “not be such as is reasonably likely to lead to serious harm to the affected individual.”66
[poster's interjection: who decides that?]
The Model Act recognizes that individuals may be unable or unwilling to undergo vaccination “for reasons of health, religion, or conscience,”
and provides that such individuals may be subject to quarantine to prevent the spread of a contagious or possibly contagious disease.67
State adoption of the Model Act’s provisions has varied.68 Some statutes delegate power to the state to require
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vaccinations in a public health emergency,69 or to impose quarantine requirements.70 In contrast, other states provide that individuals may refuse vaccinations.71 . . . .
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The preservatives in vaccines are in there for a good reason.
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quote:Originally posted by ohioperson22: The preservatives in vaccines are in there for a good reason.
ohioperson22... could you elaborate???
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- The point about preventing spoilage is a good one. Still, as with foods we put into our bodies, there are some preservatives that just do not belong in our bodies.
When injected, as with vaccines, certain preservatives are neurotoxic. This is about the safety of all ingredients.
The key issue - the entire point of this discussion - is the absolute safety of every single ingredient. For everyone, every time.
And not by sheer luck of the draw but guaranteed as intended design. And proven in results by everyone, every time. But that is not the reality of this matter. -
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oh said... "The preservatives in vaccines are in there for a good reason."
Oh yes, we all need a selection of various poisons injected into us at some point during our lifetime. It's the American way.
Why wait for the slower acting ones floating around in the environment to do us in when a government sanctioned vaccine with its toxic preservatives can speed up the killing process?
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Keebler said... "The key issue - the entire point of this discussion - is the absolute safety of every single ingredient. For everyone, every time."
Exactly! And in my opinion, we should be given a choice, and not be forced to put that garbage in our systems if we don't want to.
It all boils down to being the school teachers faults. They were the monsters that taught us all how to read and think. They taught us to research, question and to learn the facts.
That's why Wormser, Bumsteere and the other Idiots are having such a hard time with us now. The teachers made the mistake of educating us!
If it weren't for those teachers we'd all just do what we were told to do and suffer the consequences--- good, bad or ugly.
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BTW- Not many days go by when I don't thank our teachers for doing what they do for our children. They are amazing and so under appreciated. Bless them all!
Why Are Vaccine Rights Being Removed While Safety Issues Are Increasingly Brought to the Fore?
By Dr. Joseph Mercola - July 19, 2016
28-minute video with Barbara Loe Fisher, founder of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC)
[An article accompanies] Excerpts:
. . . Forced Vaccinations Are Unethical and Dangerous . . . .
[Gretchen DuBeau states] . . . The sobering truth is, however, that this safety testing has been conspicuously lacking and in many cases simply has not been done.
Until these extremely serious safety concerns are adequately addressed, it is unethical — and very possibly dangerous — to force children to be vaccinated.
Take aluminum, for example, which has been added to vaccines since the 1930s to help jolt the body's immune system into action.
Aluminum is a well-documented neurotoxin linked with
Alzheimer's disease, epilepsy, asthma, hyperactivity and Down's syndrome.
Despite these dangers, adequate clinical research proving aluminum adjuvants to be safe has never been done." . . . . [end DuBeau quote excerpt]
. . . Many Scientists Have Raised Concerns About Potential Vaccine Dangers . . . .
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- Tincup recently posted this in another thread. To be clear, these are not something I'd suggest following but my words simply cannot from a proper sentence to put my thought to this. Yikes, though. Really, Yikes!
Important to know all about this, though, for any possible future encounters so as not to be thrown off guard.
2013 IDSA Clinical Practice Guideline for Vaccination of the Immunocompromised Host -
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- A PATCH, instead of liquid drawn from a vial?
Since seeing this TED Talks presentation some time ago, this has really stuck with me. While the ingredients in most vaccines are of major concern, this method can side step most additives by the delivery system.
Focus in the safety of the delivery system really seems to me that this would be a wonderful method.
Just checking to see where they all with all this, I could find not much new in over a year. Still, energy is so limited I could only briefly browse.
just putting this out there as hope that the idea, the theory of vaccines for the most important infections might find a whole different delivery system in time not too far off.
Vaxxas is pioneering a next-generation vaccine delivery platform that enables robust immune system activation by targeting vaccine components to the abundant immunological cells immediately below the surface of the skin.
Vaxxas' proprietary Nanopatch™ technology aims to provide an optimized, differentiated needle-free vaccine delivery solution that safely and cost effectively amplifies vaccine efficacy. . . . -
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