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Anyone out there who has both an LLMD and an LLND (or naturopath/herbalist)?
Who has done better on herbals as opposed to antibiotics?
Thanks :-)
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- Depending upon the state in which they are licensed & practice, some LL ND do prescribe various Rx as well as nutritional / herbal items.
In Europe, it's set up a little differently. though. IMO, whatever kind of doctor you seen should be ILADS educated, best if they have completed the ILADS physician training course. Their treatment methods may vary but they really need that foundation and grasp of the science of lyme / TBD.
Various countries in Europe have hosted ILADS conferences, etc.
I would not set out saying you will do only Rx or only herbs. It usually requires the best of both worlds.
However, a rife machine may serve as another choice.
Not sure where you are in Europe but, if in Germany, you might consider seeing Dr. W for . . . (forget term and away from my home computer with my notes). He is not ILADS yet is very much LL. BioPhoton, I think is the method. -
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Dr. W is in Pforzheim, Germany. He is very good with his "out of the box" treatment.
It is called photon therapy and in my opinion is much much better than rife.
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Thanks for your responses, Keebler and hiker53!
quote:I would not set out saying you will do only Rx or only herbs. It usually requires the best of both worlds.
I agree. But I wasn't looking to discuss the "antibiotics vs. herbals" issue in general.
Instead I was hoping to get individual opinions and feedback. I'm looking for personal success stories as far as herbals are concerned.
In my case, herbs seem to do a better job than 4 years of antibiotics. Just looking for feedback from others on this matter.
As far as Dr. W. is concerned. I see that his name keeps turning up in connection with treatment in Germany. I haven't heard any success stories so far. So, if there are any, I'd be interested in hearing them.
Not having had any treatment success in Europe (including various self-proclaimed "ILADS" LLMDs that weren't really ILADS educated at all), I went across the pond to get treated. My LLMD is in the US.
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As far as Dr. W. is concerned. I see that his name keeps turning up in connection with treatment in Germany. I haven't heard any success stories so far. So, if there are any, I'd be interested in hearing them.
I'm well and have been for almost 6 years.
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I think it depends on the experience and skill of the practitioner. There are many LLMDs who do great with herbs too.
I'm someone who started with antibiotics and now don't do them. I think they're a good start, and then we can do so much more as well.
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Thanks so much for your input. It's great to see positive reports on Dr. W.
I had read a few negative reviews ...
Do you feel it was his treatment that eventually led you to being symptom free?
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quote: I'm someone who started with antibiotics and now don't do them. I think they're a good start, and then we can do so much more as well.
I agree, Robin. After 4 years on antibiotics, my gut is shot, and no amount of probiotics or candida treatment is going to fix that.
While I'm on herbals, I barely have any gut issues, but as soon as I go back on pharmaceuticals, I get diarrhea (even with all "protection methods" in place).
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- It's true that not everyone benefits from this. There have been a couple posters here who did not. More, I think did, however.
But there are just too many variables for each person to write it off until you can look into it. Also maybe figure out why it may not work for some and what might be altered.
You can find past threads here in the "search" feature.
To learn more you might connect to some lyme support groups around you and also around where Dr. W is located.
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