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Each time I ate something with cayenne pepper in it, I got brain fog, anxiety, palpitation, head pressure, eye pressure and something like stiff neck.
I don't understand it. I thought the cayenne pepper powder might be old and moldy, so I threw it away and bought new one. Same reaction.
I'm wondering is it the mold, or something else? are all powdered spice moldy by nature?Why it feels like lyme/bartonella flareup?
Does anyone have same reaction to cayenne pepper?
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It sounds like a nerve stimulation problem... my ears close up when I eat hot things...
I doubt it is mold or a flare up...
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- I agree with foxy loxy, it's likely due to the fact that it's a very, VERY stimulating substance. That would explain the anxiety, palpitations and then the other reactions could be residual reactions.
Generally, any hot spice is stimulating to the nervous systems and when our nervous systems are already fried, we can't take any more heat -- and our adrenal systems don't do well with the kind of "emergency alarm" that hot spices can set off.
Many with TBD also have irritated lining of the GI tract and that's another thing to consider as well with the mucous membrane irritation of heat packed spices.
If you enjoy foods that are spicy hot, be sure to have a cold cucumber salad to balance that out. Yogurt or a cool oil may help a little but the fire brigade will still be set off in your brain's control room.
The meat of the cucumbers can be very soothing to the mouth, and the body. Also, you will likely do better to have as little of the spicy hot stuff as you need for the flavor.
If you are taking cayenne for medicinal reasons, there are other herbs to consider on the neutral or cooling spectrum. -
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- I can't "do" hot spices but did find a very mild chili powder in the bulk section of an organic market. You might inquire to those who know the spices in such a place to find one that is easier for you if you enjoy the flavor in foods. Still, a little goes a long way. -
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- Do be certain that any spices you get are from reputable and "clean" sources. Not all are. -
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- Google: hot spices . . . then: cooling spices (or they may be more in the herb category) -
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I love any and all hot peppers when I`m in the middle of eating them, but they constantly wipe me completely out, similar to the way the heat and sun do. I have no tolerance for them at all.
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Thanks, that makes sense. I'd better avoid eating it altogether. It was really uncomfortable, feels like typical lyme/coinf symptoms to me.
And yes, when I was in the middle of eating it, I felt quite good, about half an hour later, I was knocked down with feeling of congested mucous in my head and sinuses.
Raw garlic has similar effect on my head, but no mucous.
I think it's related to leaky gut.
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IIRC, cayenne peppers are also a member of the nightshade family, which can be pro-inflammatory...
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Cayenne pepper is an effective clot buster. It is known that it thins the blood and likely also breaks up biofilm.
I kept a bottle of capsules around in case my father in law were to have a heart attack when he was at our house.
It does not surprise me that it would produce a reaction just for that reason alone. It could be taking away the protection of the infections. It might not be an allergy, it may be a herx.
When I started using MSM my hands broke out in little pus filled blisters. Ok, I stop taking it and the blisters go away. I start again and they come back, but less than before.
I decide if it's an allergy, it should get progressively worse as I keep taking it. It does not get worse. Gradually the blisters go away and now I only occasionally will see one.
My conclusion is that the detoxifying effect of the MSM is releasing chemimicals my skin has been exposed to over the years. This is supported by the fact my dominant right hand had more blisters than the left.
A reaction can be good or bad, but don't assume either especially for a food that is not known to be allergenic or toxic.
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It's also possible to become allergic to capsaicin, the compound found in all of the pepper family. This happened to my old roommate -- she got incredibly sick every time she ate peppers, or even came into contact with them (she couldn't use the icy/hot patches, etc.) She was lyme positive too.
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Inused to love chili...its part of the culture here ...and ya i think it is leaky gut ...was told giardia is causing it ...most have it but other flora keep it in check...persons with lyme dont
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Cayenne is a vasodilator, meaning blood vessel walls expand. This could cause herxes as blood penetrates areas where Bb and other microbes are hiding.
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