Keebler
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- those are questions for the dentist yet placing a crown is a lot easier than the groundwork that goes into it, it that helps. -
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Keebler
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- Backing up a bit and something I forgot to consider: lipstick. Any lipsticks, balm, glazes or whatever we put on our lips.
In a previous post of yours, you say that you had just ordered this lip glaze - mid April. Some of the ingredients in it could cause nerve trouble.
Whatever lipsticks you use - the ingredients list are very important. You mentioned this one and the dark color got me thinking about the ingredients -- but many of the more traditional colors can also have harmful ingredients.
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NIGHT FAIRY Amazing Intense Lip Glaze /Sheer BLACK Color Rainbow Glow Glitter -
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- Any face make up and eye make up, too, should be considered. Some of those contain heavy metals or other ingredients of caution and while lipstick is really food, it winds up going into our mouth, stomach, body so that's most important to be free of heavy metals, etc.
the things we put on our skin can also be absorbed and can affect our nerve fibers, etc.
As you are trying to figure out all the things that could be affecting your nerve problem, this group can help. You can check products by name and often check the individual ingredients, too:
Cosmetics Database -
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Keebler
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- Some hair colors can also affect nerves, too. Just in case that's in the picture.
one more and then I'm done thinking. I forget if you've said or not: Gluten Free?
Gluten can cause nerve issues for some, even if they don't have gut issues from it or celiac. -
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Yes she will need to remove the decay, form the tooth for the crown, then place it.
I always get stuff from Etsy, or mostly. And yes, I'm aware of EWG. Use it often. I never buy makeup, hair color, etc in the supermarkets or hair stylists anymore.
Yes I'm off gluten.
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My pain falls into the severe category. And I was on it for a week. It just seems so unlikely. In the past, I've had the 'sock' feeling w/out any B6. Still trying to figure that one out.
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Keebler
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- To help make sense of it, as to pre-exiting symptoms and how they could still be connected to something started after they did - a possible B-6 toxicity could make that much worse.
And, for some, symptoms can indeed become severe. LymeToo has been studying this topic of B-6 toxicity for some time (and has posted many links if you want to search her history) but likely won't put all the articles here that have crossed her path.
Most often, much of what comes from a poster's recommendations has to do with all they've learned along the way.
You've said you're laying off the B-6 supplement and in a couple weeks you may see some improvement -- also be sure to check for any B-6 in any kinds of vitamin or nutrient blends, whether capsules, powder "shakes" or some beverages you might consume. Some can also have undeclared ingredients.
Any energy or "breakfast" bars should also be checked for their ingredient listings. Many will contain added synthetic vitamins.
Glad to hear you are gluten free as that should help even if it might not seem so right now. If you use any gluten free cereals or prepared products, just like regular cereals, many may have added vitamins. Any product that contains more than just the actual food itself.
In fact, you might consider any such additional B-6 in things you might have been taking before the symptoms started in the first place, especially any "energy" drinks or "energy" snacks.
Of course, with lyme on board, lyme seems to check off so many symptom boxes. But, the other influences can be profound themselves and if adjustments are made, then the overall symptom buffet can see some improvements.
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The good thing is I barely buy anything at the grocery store or any 'normal' processed anything. I go to places like Trader Joe's, Whole foods, Fruitful Yield and always look at ingredients. I wasn't specifically looking for B vitamins, and I will, but of the better quality stuff at those places, I rarely see a lot of additives. I avoid artificial colors and flavors. All I have now is gluten free oats (most recently Udis). Or Lentil chips or potato chips from those places for 'snacky' type stuff. Dk choc almonds. Other than that, it's whole foods (fruits, veggies, proteins, seeds like chia...) I'm not perfect but I literally eat the healthiest of any of my family members. On one website, it was saying how to heal nerves and one of the things they mentioned was taking 50-100 mg of B6. Sigh. I think it's thought to calm nerves usually. I had 2 days w/out sharp pains...then last night they were back, another sleepless night w/my heart racing. I can't stand it.
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Taking B6 in the form of P5P has certainly made a huge difference to the nerve pains in my feet (separate from the Morton's neuromas), but then I have pyroluria, so need to take it because people with pyroluria dump quantities of B6 and zinc.
B6 may not be the cause of your pain, but the idea of cutting it out for the moment, as Lymetoo and Keebler suggest, does seem to be sensible while you are trying to trace what the cause might be.
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The B6 I have says from Pyridoxine HCl. I looked at some of those links from Keebler...I do take L-glutamic acid HCl, in my ImmuWell supp, as indicated when I had my neuro test done. It's in a mix of other things. @ukcarry...how did you know you had this? I had to look it up.
If one is having a toxic amount of B6, is this detectable in any test?
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Yes, there is a test. I wish I had asked my doctor to do the test when I first figured this out. I had just found out and wanted to research it more before asking him to do the test.
So two weeks later I had him run it and it was normal. The B6 count can drop rapidly once you are off the supplements, so it didn't show up.
They have to cover the vial with foil or something to block the light when they take the blood.
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I was tested by the doctor treating me a few years ago, probably because Dr K was saying that he found it in 80% of his Lyme patients (he used the term HPU or KPU) and was found to be borderline positive for it.
More recently the person I consult with following on from my genetic testing had her suspicions from some of my symptoms and I remembered my previous result. I have been treating it for over six months now, although I may not have found my ideal levels of B6 and zinc yet.
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My lyme doc assistant said the best test for B6 is urine. She didnt seem that concerned about it. Said we'd test it in like 6 weeks. I kinda wish I could have it tested now. I still don't know if that's causing the problems.
I will ask her about the pyroluria too.
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When you got yours tested, was it blood or urine?
Also I found out what the meds for the injection would be: clonidine verapamil depo medrol (glucocorticoid) anesthetic
My Lyme doc doesn't know anything about them. I mean I can look them up, but I mainly wanted to make sure they're safe w/lyme meds and supps. I'd guess that if they're injected in the foot nerve, that it's local and not transported all over the body.
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