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GVS
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For me candida and it's toxins are a chronic issue,
meaning I'm constantly killing and having to deal with its toxins.

Peach tree bark, so far, has been effective at removing fungal toxins from my body, but I'm looking for an alternative, because I could always become allergic to the bark..

Any help would be appreciated. Espeically if it was more affordable than the bark.

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I am not familiar with peach tree bark. Would oregano oil help with this? Or diatomaceous earth (food grade)?
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Oregano oil is a killing agent that produces toxins, not a binder. Diatomaceous earth is of some use, absorbing some neuotoxins, but it is also a killing agent, esp. in regard to parasites and fungi
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Chlorella, bear garlic tincture, MSM.

I use chlorella and bear garlic usually, and it is okay (enough). You can though use MSM, which is pure sulphur, in organic form, very efficient for many types of toxins too.

I dislike the bitter taste, so I prefer the chlorella instead.

Green tea also helped me in the past, but it is not as potent as chlorella (about 20% of the chlorella power, for candida die off, in my opinion).

Anything supporting the liver (bitter herbs, milk thistle) and the kidneys will be welcome (like nettle tea or bear garlic as said above).

for the lymph, I used to use Lymphomyosot liquid from Heel. I also rubbed any organic oil that my skin could absorb (I like jojoba) on the lymph nodes (it helped me feeling less anxious, more relaxed).

The logic, I think, is that these oils go inside the lymph nodes and bind to toxins that are not bound by water molecules.

The feeling is good, so I kept doing that for ages.

for more detox, during candida, I always did foot baths. Of course, whole baths would be better, but as I'm too lazy, I did the foot baths in very very hot water. I added either Dead Sea salts, or baking soda.

Recently I learned about magnesium chloride salts. I think if I had it here, I would give it a try, for sure, as I heard good things about it.

Other simple binders are clay, apple pectin, and even activated charcoal (but that cannot be used long term as it binds to good minerals too).

the good thing with chlorella is that it is rich in aminoacids (all aminoacids we need), full of minerals (organic minerals) and it is a plant, so it works like food (I don't think you can get easily overdosed).

i also find that eating a lot of fresh green leaves help my body to stand chronic infections (in my case, I only suffer from candida for decades, no more lyme).

Now it is dormant, but it ALWAYS comes back in winter.

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It's funny you talk about peach tree bark. I recently read that walnut bark is good for cleaning the blood too.

Walnut bark is cited here as being good for the immune system (but I read somewhere else everything in walnut is good for detoxing).

http://www.amazing-green-tea.com/cleansing-tea.html

I gotta find the old sites again, mostly it's in special websites (from tree specialists).

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I knew birch tree was good, but thought it was only the liquid in the trunk that did that.

I just realized that in fact, its leaves are very helpful for cleaning toxins...

http://alternativa-za-vas.com/en/index.php/clanak/article/birch

I have a birch just in my garden, but never thought of collecting its leaves... Unfortunately, it's autumn now, and the leaves are almost all gone...

If you are in a warmer area, you may still find fresh birch leaves?

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For mold toxins, I believe chlorella (OTC) and cholestryamine (Rx) are commonly used.

I was just prescribed wild bear garlic to kill parasites, so I believe that would also be in the "also does killing" category.

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Pau D' Arco tea.

Just grabbed this site randomly from Google to help explain it.

http://www.paudarco.org

You can order it on Amazon for $4-5 for about 16 bags.

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Pau d'arco is also a potent killer, if my memory is good.

I still have liters of pau d'arco tincture. It is potent, so you don't need a lot!! In case you use that, start slow!


Bear garlic, like any garlic, can be considered a killer. But due to higher content of sulphur, they are potent binders /cleaning substances.

Dr. K. uses bear garlic tincture for decades for mostly cleaning / binding through the urine.

A MUCH better killer is FROZEN garlic. That one, well, we barely feel the cleaning effects, we feel mostly the killing effects!! It is potent!

Bear garlic, I take for more than a decade, I never felt it was a killer, I mean, specifically.

Onion is known to kill cold viruses, right? But do you guys eat onion for that purpose only? At least, I don't.

All sulphur containing plants have some sort of killing action in the end. But they have other functions too.

Like chicken soup, said to fight colds and flu.
You can think it as a killer, but I think it as a yummy food, that is also helpful for other things such as strengthening the bones, cartilage and warming the body.


Like chlorella, some people swear it helps killing candida and viruses too. I see that a bit too, but the cleaning effects are much stronger than its killing effects.

I see both chlorella and bear garlic more on the cleaning category, for sure. While pau d'arco for me is more of a killer. At least, in my experience.


Of course, all these plants have HUNDREDS of chemical components. So you can't categorize them as doing ONE thing or ANOTHER ONLY.

They do both and MUCH more. I guess it varies also from problem to problem, person to person. [Big Grin]

After 12 years of intake of chlorella and bear garlic, I feel they are mostly cleaning! [Smile]

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Apparently Licorice Root, Burdock root, Chinese gall nuts and SILPHIUM LACINIATUM (aster family, Asteraceae ) are all supposedly good binders of bacterial endotoxins and heavy metals.
I feel as though I get good results (less arthritis and general body pain) from both Burdock root and Licorice root, although I take Licorice root with care since I have high blood pressure I (just monitor my BP when I take it.)

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/132608/2

Of coarse chlorella is also king, as is charcoal.

I have not tried bear garlic yet--- but will do so in future.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/115457?#000000

OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT Links


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.
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Where can one buy the bear garlic drops from?

According to the Ramslin site:
"However, once the pick fresh leaf of wild garlic, allin begins to vaporize. In contact with air oxidizes and begins to break down.

Healing is lost very quickly , almost 2% per hour. It means for one day wild garlic lose half of its healing properties, and for 48 hours allin disappears completely."

It looks like buying dried powder in capsules is useless.

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Some people do well with swallowing a small clove of garlic, just barely breaking it with teeth just before they swallow. Or cutting it in manageable pieces to swallow and then moving very quickly.

For some, though, this can burn (and if too much taken).

I was surprised that this worked pretty well for me - in the middle of a meal - as long as I could follow with water or warm green tea to get the garlic oil out of my mouth. Direct contact with garlic oil can burn tissue.

Some brands have done it right with capsules. Indeed, capturing the "goodness" needs to be quick &/or special methods.

[Not about "bear" garlic yet] Some links here for good preparations of garlic / allicin that do hold their strength. BioPure freeze dried garlic - and Hepapro Allcin (which actually has the precursor for allicin) are at the top of the list.

Aside from whatever else Brussels or others might post about Bear Garlic (that is not mentioned here, I don't think).


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Molybdenum works well for me.
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Hi Look up!

I found bear garlic in the UK

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Florida-Herbal-Pharmacy-Tincture-Extract/dp/B00KLNTCBE

But the brand looks American (florida).

Could you check? Google sends me always to the UK sites before the US sites....

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Ha! Ok, It is on Amazon and it is, as you found in the UK. It is called Wild Garlic (Allium Ursinum) not Bear Garlic! Great! Thanks!

Hugs back to you:) and thanks again!

Reminder: order through the link on the left of this page so Lymenet gets supported through Amazon.

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in UK wild garlic leaves appear usually from late January in all sorts of rural sites, especially near rivers and can be used for soups, pesto etc until late May/early June. I am not sure when it would be out in USA.

In the past, I have made tinctures out of it (using vodka), as well as using it in cooking and salads.

In fact we have a patch of it in our garden!

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