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So I've having trouble with grinding my teeth, but the doctor I went to said I need to get my sinuses checked out first. I think I have some sort of mechanical issue in my nose.
My doctor said that my tongue is getting in my airway at night, and that's why I grind my teeth. But every time I'm under a lot of stress or I get a herx reaction, the grinding gets much worse.
My question is: could teeth grinding be related to Lyme or bartonella in some way?
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Keebler
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- Sorry you are experiencing this. The TMJ stuff I went through was sheer misery. It can get better with a wide approach of helpers, though. Really.
Aside from even if there may be some structural element to this that when you are under stress or experiencing toxicity overload (a herxheimer reaction) that it's worse.
Yes, bruxism (teeth grinding) can certainly be connected to lyme or any other infections due to the toxic load, adrenal exhaustion and higher cortisol with stress, causing
muscle tightness or spasms.
What helps?
Have a dental professional assess your bite, jaw, temp mand. joint, of course. And ask them about sinus thoughts, too.
It may be that if your bite is slightly off, some gently dental smoothing of tooth surfaces could set you right again.
Ask your dentist for a good place to learn TMJ exercises for YOUR issues. A PT might need to first guide you.
Biofeedback can be especially good to learn how to do this. Some insurances cover this, it may need to be billed as PT, or other code though -- they do not usually cover any other TMJ treatments.
IF you are suggested a mouth splint at night, be certain your dentist guides that choice.
The hard acrylic ones are better but if you are still low in magnesium or have other issues you can still press on that -- the soft ones are worse. I used to chew through that in my sleep. Avoid soft ones.
A mouth splint will NOT solve the cause, though, might be some help. Most insurances do not cover. Do not buy something that you heat at home and set in your mouth. The consistency and materials in those are of concern.
Milk?
If you consume milk products, you might consider stopping all. Milk can cause excess stuffy noses, more nasal drip and phlegm and that can interfere with sleep and breathing.
Gluten, too, can cause phlegm in sinues, etc.. In wheat, barley, rye . . . . [see a Celiac site for what it's in]
MAGNESIUM tops the list of considerations. Many with lyme are deficient in Mg - and the toxic load seems to require more than usual, too. Mg needs to be taken
3-4 x a day, never all at once as it does not hang around the body long.
Too much all at once will just get wasted and be hard on the kidneys. Detail belong. Some kinds produce more relaxation than others - and some kinds also help with bowel function (a delicate balance with does, though).
LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too. -
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my tmj effects my neck, ears, and shoulders. my teeth make my jaw so sore I can barely eat or talk.
tmj is no fun.
splints are expensive and, like mine, need periodic adjustments.
my insurance did not pay for anything.
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I have bad TMJ from Ehlers Danlos Syndrome.
I see a dentist that specializes in treating EDS & TMJ. Had a custom splint made to wear at night. It does help.
If I start having more problems I can pop into the office & they'll readjust my splint.
The doc always very gently manipulates the jaw & checks the cervical spine too.
These treatments have drastically (basically eliminated) my migraines. It's also relieved the constant facial pain & pressure that I was xperiencing.
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Thanks so much for the replies. The whole thing mystifies me that, now that I'm feeling better, the grinding is getting worse.
But possibly I've had it for longer than I realized. I think a lot of it was caused by some badly-done orthodontics years ago. I was never given a correctly-fitting retainer after my teeth were adjusted.
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Healthknox .. any particular reason you brought up this old post?
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I think it was for me, Miss T!
Ah, the dreaded TMJ... it has been my constant companion for my entire adult life. Interestingly enough, it began at the same time all my other mysterious TBD symptoms started, and the connection was never made for decades.
It is a HUGE problem for most TBD patients. My dentist back then prescribed a bite splint. And my current dentist did the same. For me, the problem is to remember to actually use it!
I have done a lot of damage to my teeth (actually cracking the teeth) by NOT using it and could further damage them very easily.
Keebler... not sure if you are still around, but my gosh, you always come up with THE BEST information. Thank you for linking the magnesium issues as that is one of my main problems at the moment.
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I think that in this case, you need to consult a maxillofacial surgeon. There is no need to drag out time and postpone it because then you may have serious problems with nerves and teeth. You'd better go to good specialists who can help you before it's too late. If you don't know where to go, I advise you of the service where I did dental crown. Excellent specialists with extensive work experience will be able to help you there. I wish you good luck and be healthy.
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Just a word to the wise here - if a post is old, it could be helpful to private message the poster if you have a tip for them or want to start a conversation.
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ok people, time to learn how to spot advertisers and shills:
1. Account was just created and has only 1 post 2. They dig up an old topic and place a somewhat unrelated post that no one was asking for 3. They will provide a link to something they are promoting
Please do not respond to these kinds of posts. Its pointless anyway.
These messages should be deleted by mods and their accounts banned.
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