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for some wierd lyme rage related thing it is making me nuts to hear lyme being called "lyme's". Obviously,this herxing is making me into a raving, picky bi ch!
Maybe it's because I'm quickly losing my academic skills to this rotten illness and dwell on this too much lately? but....since we have a hell of a time as it is trying to have this disease recognized in the medical
communities and taken seriously, let's call it what it is? ( My sane mind can't believe I'm actually going to post this)
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Hey, I know what you mean! And I understand how sometimes things are more bothersome than other times! I'm not sure why Lyme's is used, but the first LLMD I went to (who was very aware and helpful) always called it Lymes. It made me a little crazy, because I kept saying Lyme, she said Lymes, and that is how it always was with her (you say tomato, I say tomatoe...).
So, just to point out, some docs are saying Lymes, which may be why some patients are too. At the time, this was all new to me and I didn't know what to call it, so I didn't correct her (but I kept thinking Lymes was wrong). I always found it odd. I'm never sure whether or not to correct people because I know how much everyone is suffering, but I have always found it to be confusing when I try to respond.
Thanks for bringing it up and raising our awareness,
Joanie
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I hate the term all together. I like saying I have a bacterial infection. Lyme is so lame, why not a better name. When people ask what kind I say Borellia. Whatever floats your boat.
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My LLMD once told me to try saying Erlichia and see if you get a better response from people (especially doctors). I always do. People seem to take that more seriously as a "real" illness, I guess because it sounds more technical and therefore people assume more identifiable by blood tests than Lyme disease sounds like it would be.
Interesting.
Joanie
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History...
Naming this outbreak after the town in which it occurred, he called this illness Lyme Arthritis. By the late 1970s it was recognized that the illness had systemic manifestations including neurologic, rheumatologic, dermatologic, and cardiac components and so the name of the illness was changed from Lyme arthritis to Lyme Disease.
In 1982, the infectious agent Borrelia burgdorferi was identified (4). Soon thereafter, reports indicated that the European neuroborreliosis was caused by a similar if not identical organism (13). In acknowledgment of this infectious agent, Lyme disease is now referred to as Lyme borreliosis.
But few could pronounce Lyme borreliosis so in 1992, it became Lyme Disease.
Then Lyme.
Dr. Willy Burgdorfer identified the microorganism. He wasn't crazy about having a terrible bacteria after him (borrelia burgdorferi). He's a true humanitarian.
Burgdorfer's Disease has a more "legitimate sound" to it. Perhaps we should look into changing the name? That might get some "recognition" and press.
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....I don't care what you call it as long as you don't call it 'Charlie'
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Haha, yeah I hate it when people call it "Lyme's" too, like "Lyme" was a person who discovered it or something. In that case, perhaps it should be something like "Burgdorfer's Disease".
I excuse Lyme newbies for it, as it's a common mistake. But medical 'professionals' should know better.
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LOL!! First laugh I've had in a week. Thanks Charlie!
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I'm with you Charlie. Doesnt bother me.
A couple of years ago the local SPCA gave our support group a booth at DoDah Day (people dress their animals up for prizes). They painted our group a great big sign that said LYMES. But you know...they gave us a booth. So it was worth it.
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Ha ha I'll remember that when I'm painting the sign for the next rally in support of the ADE'S society!
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Hey Krazy,
Well, I have to say hearing people say "oh ya, you got Lymes" drives me totaly nuts sometimes.
I am now called "The Lyme Queen" in my town, as everyone thinks of me as a poster child for Lyme Disease. As I have had it for over 2 years, my son was just recently diagnosed, and I have sent at least 15 people to the ER with a confirmed bulls-eye for treatment in the past 2 years.
I have bought books for the library, and can be seen all over town distributing Lyme Brochures. I'm sure some think I am a little odd
So I guess I really don't care if they call it Lymes or Lyme as long as I am making people aware about this disease and getting others talking about it's dangers.
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lymebrat, That's great that you do so much to get the word out there! I've had this for 20+ years and have been called many things(most of which I'd rather not repeat. ha)
The many docs I've seen and begged for help over the years think/thought I'm crazy. Today I simply tell them if I'm not I sure as H should be by now!
Keep up the good work ( If there's a God, they'll eventually "get it" )
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This bugs me too, the nurse at my LLMD's office calls it lymes. But how about this one, the nurse at my husband's duck office wrote on his test papers LIME disease!!!! Unbelievable...
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In my case because I had three strains of Lyme I can say lymes disease (plural) hahahaha Personaly beats calling it Borrelia burgdorferi disease hahaha Really lets change the name to something different ??? aaaaa Lets see now what would be good name hmmmmmmmmmmmmm I got it ! AIOD (All IN ONE DISEASE) EEH NAY Any Ideas??
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Krazy,
One time I read in either Dear Abby or An Landers where someone had written in because the column capitalized AIDS. The woman said it was offensive because you dont capitalize cancer! HA!
*** And really I dont think it should even be called Lyme since the disease already existed other places. But really it isnt Lyme at all. Lyme is more of a nickname. ***
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I don't like 'lymes' either. I just tell people I have cooties! :O
On vacation my kids got grossed out at a gift store that was selling "Old Lyme Carmel Corn"! Something maybe we should consider as a possible fundraiser product- LOL???? cootiegirl
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Kara, I think that that person was wrong as AIDS is an accronym for Auto Immune Defiency Syndrome, therefore to say AIDS was correct at that time, however,
it is my understanding that now the Policitly Correct thing to say is HIV since it has discovered to be an actual virus rather than a syndrome.
Since this, too, can be applied to Lyme Disease...the politically correct thing to say when referring to CFS or Fibromyalgia...well, someday it will be.
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And how do you think the residents of Lyme and Old Lyme feel? Gives you the feeling that hordes of ticks will be jumping onto you before you even get out of the car in their towns!
They are beautiful old artist colony towns. I bet it didn't give the property values any boost to have a disease named after them!
Regards, Shaz
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I mostly hear doctors (not in the field of Lyme) referring to it as Lyme's disease. I think this is because they assume it is named after a person, and all diseases named after a person have an 's after the person's name. So they are just making an educated guess based on the usual system.
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Kara Tyson
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Roses,
You are correct. AIDS is an accronym. That is why it is so funny.
Many people do not know this but there is another word that is accronym. It was used by the police in the 1800's when they would arrest prostitutes:
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by rosesisland2000: [B]OOooo, add me to that list..
hearing the word Lyme's or Lymes or even Lymie (aren't they from England?), erks me like...
Sorry to offend you, Rosie, with my term *Lymies*, it was in referance to "Several persons with Lyme Disease" All of which are not offended to be called that. We are a little band of sufferers-that talk about our experinces and progress with the disease fairly frequently.
Much positive support is derrived from this group of sufferers.
I have been told there are actually two correct terms for Lyme: Lyme Arthitis, which is the term if your main manifestations involve arthritis
Or Neuro Borrelia: which is used to describe the later(Suppossably Later)neurological form of the disease
Also forgive me, as I will type whatever is faster to get my point across-I have some cognitive issues that pertain to the Lyme, and my spelling, and writing have gone down-hill
And as a Northerner in the South-there are different slang words used everwhere, I forgive anyone who slaughters the word Lyme-if they have a good heart
I just thought it was funny my nieghbor thought I was allergic to citrus fruits-when she heard the term *Lyme Disease*
Two years ago I got this disease when I was home visiting in Connecticut. On that trip, I went to the Florence Griswald museum in Lyme Connecticut. Great museum full of impressionists paintings. My husband and I were looking at the paintings, and there in-between these wonderful works of art was a framed picture of a tick and the story of Lyme disease. We found it to be odd at the time. Odd being that it was placed with all the impressionist paintings. Little did I know then, that I was just beginning my own ordeal on that very trip!
I don't know how people in Lyme feel about this disease being named after their town, but they did put up the picture of a tick and a little info about Lyme disease in one of their museums!
Joanie
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Joanie, I say good for the people of Lyme C. for having the wisdom and strength to face and acknowledge this illness head on and honestly!I can respect that.
These miserable disease-carrying ticks are literally everywhere and I wish we all could pull our heads out of our respective A's and quit brushing it under the political rug and DEAL with it.
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I think it should be called "tick borreliosis"
Next time a doc says it wrong, tell her/him that Lyme CT for which it is named is a town. It was not named for being discovered by a person, so no person named "Lyme" can claim it and call it "Lyme's disease."
As for "Lymies": I never liked that nickname because it sounds too "cute". I don't picture anyone over 10 when I see or hear that and I certainly don't picture elderly sick people or deathly sick people of any age.
I always said and wrote "Lyme disease patients" to preserve some seriousness and a last shred of dignity. Even "Lyme pts." would be better if a short version is needed.
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Well, shoot me down now! I say Lymies, and i agree it sounds a little too cute for all the suffering we endure.
Occasionally, I do mention to newbies here [is that too cute??] that it's Lyme, not Lymes. Drives me nuts too. And the most understandable reason for people should be that it's named after a town named Lyme, not Lymes. [as someone else stated]
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I also hate hearing Lymes instead of Lyme...
Oddly enough when I went for my picc line placement only 3 weeks after being diagnosed. I heard the Dr. in radiology say Lymes..This hospital has done at least a couple hundred Picc lines for my LLMD since it is the only hopital nearby so they have certainly seen many more Lyme patients than just me. I did think it strange that a DR. or radiologist would say it wrong.
More recently the MD that works in my Chiropractors office called it Lymes the first few times I visited her (for Chiro related MD treatment).. She is very up in years, maybe 68+ and sweet as can be and she actually admitted not knowing about this disease but was interested to learn a bit.
I too am guilty of saying "fellow lymies" to refer to Lyme-friends here ...and although I thought it was a warm and friendly term at the time I posted it, I will try to refrain from using this term if some lyme patients are uptight about it..
But I want to go on record as saying that being refered to as Lyme victims somehow does irk me to no end.
Sandi
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Personally I don't care what you call it, or who or what it's named after....I call it sick with little llmd help.
When AIDS became a popular "word" every teacher's aid wanted to be called teacher's assistants. Being offended at being called aids.
Lyme is a beautiful little town with extemely high taxes and very strict planning codes.
Just because it was diagnosed as coming from there we all know it is everywhere, it could be called Tick disease for all I care.
I am grateful we have the freedom to have a forum were we all can meet, and grateful for everyone who contibutes.
I may be a "newbie" or a "lymie" but I love coming here as long as you don't call it by my name either, Charlie.
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When my sister first came down with this disease (and due to steroids zoomed to stage 3), her friend sent a flower arrangement with LIMES tucked in-between the flowers.
Now...it could have upset someone, but my sister took it with a sense of humor (as the friend hoped she would) and we all had a great laugh looking at the arrangement.
It is hard to know what to do, what to say sometimes. I would like to know what the "politically" correct word is to refer to those who have lyme disease as I do not want to offend anyone.
Lyme patients? The definition fits. Is that the least offensive to everyone?
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What a cute thing with the Limes!
Humor makes a bad situation much better.
I dont mind if someone calls me a Lymie or a person with Lyme or Lieme..just as long as they believe that I am sick and I can find a Dr. to treat me. That is all that matters.
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Personally, I don't mind being referred to as a Lymie (I've been labelled with alot worse because of this disease)
But I am crazy, sick etc because I have Lyme, not Lyme's. People with Fibromyalgia don't mind being referred to as Fibros, but they may have an urge to correct someone saying Fibro's Disease.
People from Lyme C. might correct someone telling them that they're from Lyme's C. too! Bottom line, on a hot day,I call it hell.
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I hate when people call it Lymes also..it makes me shudder.
My aim name is Lymie and I like it dammit......
As for me, when I was first diagnosed I went out to a bar with my friends with my cane, both wrist braces on, and I couldn't drink and the bartender asked me why. So I told him....he put up a shot glass on the bar filled with LIME JUICE.
I thought it was pretty cute.........maybe cause he was cute heheheheh
Take Care everyone Abbie
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TheCrimeOfLyme
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LymeMomToo:
You cant control how other people feel. If something upsets them, let it be. I have seen posts where people have indicated it is lyme and not lymes. I think that is first and foremost in education of this disease.
By the way, my post to LOPA was NOT cruel. If it was, I woudl have been ignorant and not included a smile. It was a joke. Lighten up.
Thats just my opinion.
And its still Lyme to me!
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One more thing
Just because someone says something you may not like as you do not like some correcting the usage of the word LYME as we do not like the use of the word LYMES ( makes for a pretty circular back and forth, mute argument)
don't ever assuem that people arent working their aszes off in the backround looking for cures or searching or doing what they can. THAT was ignorant.
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This really annoys me to but I decide to pick my battles. Even my nurses for my IV stuff call it Lyme's and write it that way on the papers. It bothers me, but I figure there are worse things. At least they know about the disease... whatever they want to call it.
``The best way out is always through.'' -Robert Frost
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My friends huband went to our local hospital with a high fever, neckache and headache. He had been camping. I suggested they ask the doctor about "Lyme" Disease.
They proceeded to tell her there was no Lyme in Oregon, checked for SARS and a few other things and finally came up with a diagnosis!
She was happy to call me and assure me that "they didnt have" what Lish has. The doctor found a difinitave test....the man had Borellosis and needed to be hospitalized with IV antibiotics for the next 6 weeks, followed by 2 months of orals.
So glad they didnt have to deal with Lyme here! LOL
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It especially bothers me when a DUCK or Nurse uses "Lyme's" when they're making an dumbass statement about the disease, treatment or diagnostics.
Just had to post to this one because I thought it to be very funny!!
I refer to us as "LYMIES" and noticed a long while back that my mom did not like that.
I asked her about it and she said she did not know what I was talking about. I copied and pasted it to her and she said that is how she felt at the time. Guess more important things are taking a front row seat in the "erking" department these days, like my g-ma.
Well fellow lymies.......how ya doin?
I find it endering and cute. So, how about that? Later.......
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Okay, I LIVE in East Lyme, CT and I am also so sick of people referring to Lyme as "Lyme's" like we own the disease or something! No, I can't say that ticks are throwing themselves at people here but there are an abundance of dear and it can be pretty scary. I got LD right in my back yard! Just my two cents. Nancy
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Hi All,
Here we are a year later, and I have to say the word "lymes" still irks me
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I agree whenever I hear lymes. it sounds like such an unsophisticated disese. Maybe that's why drs. don't take us seriously. We are too fruity. It really is lame disease.
It is OUR disease. We're living it and we are the ones owning it so I think we should rename it. Especially chronic lyme, because that's a whole new species. Let's rename is something really sexy though.
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