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Farah: I just ordered the essential oil for lymes which includes LymeEssence Oil 2oz. Contains 20% eucalyptus, lemon, frankincense, patchouli, geranium, and thyme essential oil in a base of 80% grapeseed oil. Has potentially incredible infection fighting powers.
Is this the oil you used Farah? Did you put on your whole body. I have pain all over. I'm also on herbs for poor oxgenation and circulation. Starting out with only small amount as a tea.
Also the infrared sauna. I tried it and was really weak when I got out. I stayed in too long for my first time. However, the heat felt good. Going to try the detox bath.
Really like this post. Very helpful.
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That is the oil formula I used all through my struggle with Lyme Disease. For everyone trying the oils out, be prepared for herxes.
Far infrared saunas and all sorts of heat also helped me when I was sick. Although I mainly used natural therapies, the process of recovery was not gentle or easy.
There is nothing about this illness that is gentle or easy, and that generally includes the healing process from it.
Even using natural things, because of the herxes it can feel like 2 steps forward and 1 step backwards, but every time I used the oils and herxed the windows of good days grew wider and wider.
In my personal experience, the oils helped me with pain control in different areas of my body rather rapidly.
It helps to know your body, and know how to give yourself or have someone give you a fairly deep massage. I had weak hands at one point when I was ill. Giving myself massages became a form of physical therapy for me and strengthened my hands and arms quite a bit.
Also, some cranialsacral and other types of bodywork used at the same time can improve the penetration of oils or antibiotics, and reduce the herx issues, especially around the head and neck.
I am glad people are using and are interested in the oils. Like any therapy that you use for this illness, like Rifing, antibiotics, effective herbs, heat, and other therapies, use them with respect for their potency.
The sicker you are with Lyme the harder the herxes will be at first, because there are more bacteria in your body to kill off. As the bacteria die off, the herxes should get milder and milder and milder, and the windows of feeling normal and good should get larger and larger.
I would feel the disease change and circulate and move around the body more sometimes when using the oils, which felt disconcerting, but is a good thing in the long run, because it is out in the open where it can be killed.
And the symptoms decreased steadily rather rapidly compared to other therapies in my personal experience, even as they moved around.
In my experience, a symptom in a specific area indicated the presence of bacteria in that specific area. As I treated that specific area, I would literally feel the bacteria emerge, put up a fight, die, and the remainder "relocate" to some other place. I would then have symptom relief in that specific area that I had treated.
People on antibiotics will probably find that the part that moves will probably get killed off more effectively by the antibiotics.
Anyway, I think essential oils are a very important therapy for people with Lyme Disease to know about.
It helps me to hear what other people's experiences are. I sometimes forget that I had the same thing happen till people bring it up because I am well (not cured, but well with the illness very much under control) now, and I sometimes do forget the harshness of this illness and the place that others are at still.
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I recently started applying Immupower (Young Living E.O.) to my spine every day after shower (Cistus, Frankincense, Oregano, Idaho Tansy, Cumin, Clove, Hyssop, Revensara, Mountain Savory).
I smell like the dumpster behind a really lousy Italian restaurant. And I can smell myself ALL DAY. Even my boyfriend concedes that I smell pretty.... well.... vile.
I've tried applying a second, light layer of another oil that smells great, but they are not really "complimentary" oils, and I don't want to mess up the energy frequency. The complimentary oils suggested are either just as bad-smelling as the Iummupower, or I don't have any to try.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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I actually don't know so much about Young Living Essential Oils and have never used them myself. I was too poor to ever try them while I was sick.
The oregano and the cumin oil could be what is giving the "eau de Italian restaurant" fragrance, as well as the mountain savory. Clove can be a skin irritant and oregano can be irritating also.
Frankincense on its own is a pleasant smelling oil.
Lavender and geranium oil mix well with a lot of other oils and smell nice. Some of the citrus oils like bergamot or neroli also smell nice.
For a while, I would use the oils at night when I went to bed, and then shower in the morning before I went in to work. Maybe you could use the oils at night instead of in the day.
I haven't used cistus oil, but it should apply well to people with Lyme.
I know some people use the Young Living Oils internally diluted in micro amounts. You could consult with your practitioner to see if that is a possibility, instead of external application.
There are also plenty of essential oils that can boost immunity without smelling unpleasant in combination with each other.
There are many aromatherapy books out there where you can learn more about the different oils and all of their applications.
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farah , most of my symptoms are neuro, tingling , eye pain, fatigue. I bought the lyme essence and the one for the bath. The bath is pretty self explanatory but where to you put an oil for eye problem ?? muscle weakness etc??
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Thanks Farah for your reply. Will read it over.
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Thanks for the suggestions, Farah. Actually, I had not thought of doing the oils at night.... mainly because I would be putting the oils on top of the body lotion I have to use after showering, so don't want to pull any additional "ingredients" in with the oils. Of necessity, because of my very dry skin and climate, my body cream has chemicals in it.
I did try applying some straight Frankincense on top of the Immupower but it didn't help much.
Yesterday, I put a lovely-smelling oil on my throat, neck and shoulders - places where I had not put the Immupower - and that worked pretty well, I think.
I guess I could put a wonderful smelling oil + plenty of carrier oil on my spine after I shower in the morning (which might moisturize enough, I hope), and then use the Immupower at night. Well, it would be worth a try. All that can happen is that I will get dry skin and itch like crazy for a few days. I do like that idea of using the Immupower at night.
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I would use the oil on the area of muscle weakness or nerve tingling.
A lot of times you will feel things under the surface, that feel crackly, or feel almost like bubble wrap. I don't know how to describe it.
But using your knuckles or pinching to break that stuff up and rubbing the oils deep into the area can help.
For eye problems, I would carefully apply a thin layer of oils along the bony ridge that surrounds the eyeballs.
That includes the area over the eyebrows, the bridge of the nose, the upper cheekbone, and the temples, and again rub it in with the knuckles or your finger joints. Don't get the oils in your eye, and don't use so much that your eyes smart.
You may feel keets crawl out of your eyes, which can be a very weird sensation.
After I would do this consistently and have that sensation, my eyesight would improve, and a lot of my floaters and light sensitivity would diminish.
If you use the oils in that area, it helps to just generally use it on the scalp, around the ears, and on the neck, too, because those are areas near the eyes that the bacteria tend to want to migrate to.
Farah
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Farah
I find this thread fascinating so I'm pulling it back up.
I have bought the massage and bath Lymessence oils to try as I feel the essential oils I have been trying myself were helping and yours are no doubt better blends!
P.S. I recently watched a documentary on a community of jews who hid in the forest from the germans during the war and I was watching it wondering how many of them got Lyme whilst there.
Then it cut to showing you them now, much advanced in age and they said that for the 'diseases of the forest' they used birch bark oil! - an essential oil basically.
BW Emma
Farah do you think that it is necessary to try essential oils internally to help recovery at some stage? ..or will the topical application do the job whilst on abx.
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I found that using the oils externally in combination with antibiotics worked well for me.
Except for the 3 weeks of IV rocephin, I have probably never on the high dosages of antibiotics that others are frequently on. I did use essential oils the whole time I was on IV also.
The antibiotics were more of an adjunct to the essential oils than vice versa for me.
I started using small amounts of essential oils internally when I wanted to wean myself off of antibiotics entirely, once I was already fairly well.
I used the internal and external essential oils, some "blood moving" Chinese herbs, and N-acetyl cysteine, at that point, and I had basically taught myself how to do core synchronism(similar to cranialsacral work) on parts of my body that would begin to go out of whack.
Between these, I went off of antibiotics entirely.
I also take hot baths and showers and use saunas occasionally.
At this point I rarely use the essential oils, also (mostly once a month before my period or around the full moon to head off any potential flares).
I mainly take some blood moving Chinese herbs, n-acetyl cysteine, niacin, and vitamin c.
The oils have been used internally as natural antibiotics in France for a long time, but they have to be used carefully when used that way. Some oils can be toxic. And again, they always need to be diluted.
Oil of oregano is a 15% dilution of essential oil in olive oil and it is still only used by the drop. Other oils would be used similarly as well.
The spirochetes seem to have more trouble developing resistance to the essential oils than they do to antibiotics, from my personal experience.
Most antibiotics I used would stop working after even a week or two of being on them.
The essential oil formula I used to treat myself really didn't change over time.
It, too, worked best during the first month or so of use, and then the spirochetes would hide in cysts, but if I was consistent about rubbing the oils in to the areas where I was having problems, the condition always alleviated, and then disappeared.
I had the butt-kicking variety of Lyme disease that everyone knows well.
There were days I thought I would lose my vision, days I thought I would lose my hearing, there were days when I couldn't move my arms or my legs, there were days when I couldn't read or write or process a television program.
I drove like a drunk driver sometimes. I acted like an Alzheimer's patient. There were times I hallucinated and was psychotic.
There were times where I felt like the walking dead. The depression was often such that I felt as if I was looking at the world through mud.
There were times that I had the suicidal thoughts that come with spirochetes crawling around in one's brain, making me want to do things I would never do, while all of the physically healthy people in the world seemed to be busy crapping all over me.
I experienced all of the familial and social and medical ostracism that everyone else with this disease also experiences.
So although my tale is ultimately hopeful and optimistic, I have experienced the long dark night of the soul that I know many of you are still experiencing.
And I think I also had to recover simply from the post traumatic stress that the horrors of this illness imposed as well.
I know from the inside how insanely hard and challenging this illness is.
I do want people to know that there is a way through that long dark night. I want to share the things I found that helped me.
I was pretty obsessive compulsive about treating myself.
Taking care of my brain and body was the totality of my existence for a couple of years.
It felt very unbalanced. And I wished that I could live a more well rounded life, and didn't have to be so obsessive compulsive about taking care of myself.
But it really paid off in the end. The windows of good days got wider and wider, and the flares and herxes got milder and milder.
Now, even if I feel some remnant of Lyme, it is so transient and mild, that it is practically imperceptible. I still make a point of being vigilant, and highly tuned in to my body.
Lyme Disease is now more of an afterthought in my day to day life now. I do a few things to maintain myself, and then I don't think about it much as I go about leading a larger, happy life now.
I found effective methods to treat Lyme in myself and it still took time, and it felt like one step back, two steps forward, with each herx, but I got to the other side of what felt like an abyss.
And I have hope and faith that others will get through their own long dark nights and be well again, if they are just empowered with tools that actually work, and aren't allowed to get worse while they keep hitting dead ends trying things that aren't effective with this illness.
Farah
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Think this may be hubby's biggest problem and the med choices for that are so limited. Have discovered a few new herbs to try, but I am open to trying any oils that might help as well.
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I was never properly tested for co-infections. I suspect a bartonella co-infection, given the extremity of symptoms I had, and because I had severe lymph node involvement.
I also suspect that I had ehrlichia, given some of the other symptoms I had. I had an enlarged spleen and liver and some strange rashes that weren't typical Lyme rashes.
If I had babesia at any point, I think it would have been cleared pretty quickly, because I used a lot of eucalyptus oil from the very beginning, and eucalyptus has historically been used as an antimalarial by Australian aborigines.
The essential oils are broad spectrum and can address a variety of types of infections.
They can be antifungal, antiviral, antibacterial.
They can be active against mycoplasmas.
They can be active against both gram positive and gram negative bacteria, though more of them are active against gram positive bacteria.
Some oils are active against all of the above, which is fairly unheard of in synthetic drugs.
How much oil did I use? For external treatment, I used a lot. I used them as needed, and my need was great.
I think it is important for people to take into account the other drugs they are taking when they start using the oils and start slower than I did to see how they tolerate them.
Basically I would use them to the point of feeling a hint of nausea, and then I would cut back a bit from there.
Once I got acclimated to the oils I would basically coat myself in them(diluted) from head to toe, avoiding eyes and mucous membranes.
I would usually do this at night before I went to sleep. In the morning I would take a hot bath with essential oils.
And when I was really sick, I would also use a far infrared heat lamp on different body parts that were having problems that day, except for on my head.
Needless to say, between the use of essential oils and heat, I herxed a lot. As I got better, I only used the essential oils externally on different trouble spots.
Sometimes I would have to reapply the oils consistently for a day or two or more before a specific severe symptom would subside.
I could tell when I may be heading into a neurolyme flare because I would get severe headsplitting headaches beforehand.
The moment I felt any tightness and tenderness in my head I would apply the essential oils, and prevented flareups that way.
Sometimes my husband would apply them when I was already getting a little berserk, because I hadn't taken preventive action, and I would immediately feel better, calm down, and get more grounded in reality, and the head pain would subside.
Then as I got to the point when I was feeling well most of the time and wanted to wean off the antibiotics, I started taking the oils internally along with externally as needed.
I would take about 3-5 drops of 15% diluted essential oils 1-3 times a day. It is important to know the safety profiles of the oils before trying this.
I would keep the oils in my mouth so that they would be absorbed through the soft palate on the roof of the mouth, under the tongue, and the inside of my cheeks.
I would keep them in my mouth for about a minute. Then I would usually swallow the rest, but sometimes I would spit it out after that.
I think swallowing it improved the effects somewhat, but I think a lot of the absorption happens in the mouth. It was important for me to eat food right before or after ingestion to avoid heartburn.
It has been about two years since I quit taking antibiotics, and I haven't had to return to them.
I rarely use the essential oils now, and use a handful of supplements. I will occasionally use the essential oils and heat treatments, mostly before my period to keep the illness at bay as a preventive measure.
Another option for internal use is the use of hydrosols. They are milder and gentler in nature than essential oils. I used Bay Laurel Hydrosol for lymph node inflammation with good results. Another hydrosol, Greenland Moss, is also supposed to be really good for lymphatic congestion, and to get the circulation moving.
Farah
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This thread has even more essential oil info for those interested. I go into more detail on this thread about how I treated myself with essential oils. There is more info on what oils are good for what issues as well.
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i recently tried these essential oils after farah's last post (thank you Farah) i was at the end of my lyme rope. They caused some herxing but now it is really soothing to my muscles.
a year ago after suspecting Lymes (positive for Babs and Lymes after one year)- i used the grapefruit seed extract orally - but i would like to try the essential oil - where can i find this
great posts thanks has helped me so much
- a few times i mixed the lime essential oils and coconut - i became a walking key lime pie
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I use Rizol Zeta from www.biopureus.com. It seems to be one of the better oils that I have seen - ozonated - from Germany.
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Just bumping to move this interesting thread up again.
I've been using more consistently a mix called Olbas Oil from Germany, on my head mainly, to clear up a bit of fog that comes during the day (supposedly herx??).
It's a mix of eucalyptus, peppermint and Cajeputi, plus Juniperi and Gautheriae (small amounts).
Very fast results. I'm not sure though if this is only a 'coffee-like' effect from peppermint, but I do feel the difference fast!
I also started rubbing lemon + lavender oil on my liver and belly, on a 50%-50% mixture. I do feel it helps digestion and liver cleansing. Is it my imagination or I feel the bile moving??
I'll try a 75%-25% mix soon (increase the lemon proportion).
Selma.
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Farah & everybody, many thanks for all this fabulous information.
I've used lavender and heliochrism but with all the expense of supplements and taking so many different things over the past year I think I sort of forgot about them.
This thread is making me want to try them again. I was on very heavy duty abx at that time and now am not - no insurance here - but I am doing the Cowden protocol to treat Lyme and I think the essential oils will complement that treatment just fine.
Could you please tell me if you know of any essential oils that address heart palpitations? Since being on Cumanda, my heart's started racing again, as i was while I was on Zithromax and other abxs.
xo,
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How do people use ozonated (Rizol) oils?
Are these only for external use, or internal use also?
Thanks for any information, sorry for the dumb question, but the Biopure website does not say anything about this!
Farah has said in earlier posts that some essential oils may be, on a limited basis, used in small quantities internally.
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Vermont, do a search on Rizols, Gigi has posted about it not so long ago.
The Biopure site seems to have some info about, if I remember well.
They can be used externally and internally, but one has to watch for herxes.
If you don't find the thread, PM me, I have it somewhere in my 'archives'.
Selma
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For me, the heart palpitations were often a sign that the bacteria in my heart (scary to think of creepy crawlies in such a crucial organ) were getting stirred up.
A lot of times when I just applied the oils regularly over the area of my heart the palpitations would decrease and eventually disappear.
I think I was killing the bacteria at that spot and therefore reducing the symptom that way. I have heard that the Cumanda seems to trigger heart palpitations in a lot of Lymies. I think it is a sign of the bacteria being stirred out from hiding before dying off.
I do think the essential oils and the cumanda and samento probably would complement each other just fine. They are all potent though, so it is important to manage the herxes.
The oils I had mentioned before I think would probably help with this symptom, particularly frankincense and lavender for the calming effect on the nervous system.
But the eucalyptus, the lemon, and the thyme are good for killing bacteria and reducing symptoms that way.
Helichrysum oil is good generally for preventing cardiovascular issues. It keeps the blood circulation going, promoting tissue healing, while preventing clotting and hypercoagulation in my experience. It is rather pricey though. The hydrosol is cheaper and can be used in its place.
Remember to always dilute the oils in a carrier oil.
Farah
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this post has been wonderful. i use these oils - i am sleeeping throught the night at least 3 to 4 times a week.
I know that I am herxing more --- more down time but less brain fog. last week i was able to scan a page a remember what i read - Unreal --
I seem to start feeling yucky -- about two hours after i apply the oil.would you consider this a herx or just normal
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I am translating this from a German text by the researcher:
The ozonated Oils work via the ozonides. The ozonides carry the oxygen thereby changing the milieu in which anaerobic pathogenic "seeds" or "germs" live, changing it to an aerobic terrain, making it impossible for them to continue to replicate (oxygen is present) . The Oil works on the surface clinging with its effective ingredients to the gut mucosa where fungi, bacteria and parasite nests are hanging out.
Here is what I posted on another thread. The experience is that the ozonated oils are very, very effective.
Rizoles
Rizoles are faily recently discovered compounds that naturally form when natural oils are ozonated for extended periods of time (weeks to months). Depending on the organic plant oil used, the time of exposure to pure medical grade ozone gas, voltage and amperage in the high-voltage chamber, different compounds with unique properties are formed.
Extensive research and safety studies have been done in several universities in Germany. The results showed that rizoles are extremely safe to use both internally and externally.
They have unusual and profound antimicrobial effects for many different species of microorganisms: molds, bacteria, protozoa, flukes, roundworms, tapeworms, threadworms and others. Rizoles also have significant anti-viral effects.
Common uses in Germany:
As bath oils about 15-20 drops are added to the bath water while having a hote sitz-bath for no more than 15 minutes (sitting in the bath, water temperature as high as comfortably tolerated, water level no higher than umbilicus)
The oils are ideal to treat fungal skin infections, including nail fungus and athletes foot, cracks in the heel )often a mixed infection). For use on mucous membranes, the oils should be diluted or ``cut'' 50:50 or more with a non-ozonated plant oil (sesame oil, olive oil, almond oil, etc.)
The oils are suitable to treat gum disease (mouth wash several times per day) and to apply with a Q-tip diluted 50:50 to the ear canal for external otitis (no more than one drop per application).
To treat infections and infestations in the lymphatic system, the oils should be applied directly over the skin areas where the lymphatic uptake is significant (anterior neck, under axilla, groin, in selected indications to be applied to the breast)
Dose: sometimes one single drop applied to the skin per day is enough to create a die-off effect (Herzheimer reaction) in the lymphatic system (which seems to be a popular hiding place for several creatures). The dose should only be gradually increased when the reactions become tolerable. Ideally this treatment is combined with the salt/vitamin C treatment for micro-filariosis (www.lymephotos.com).
4. Internal use (this is commonly done in Germany and other European countries. In the US the products are not approved by the FDA for internal use. It would consistute an off-label use).
This is usually done in 2 stages:
Stage I. to treat intestinal infestations with bacteria (clostridia, etc.), protozoa (giardia, amoebas, toxoplasma, etc), worms and viruses.
Dosage: Begin with 1-3 drops one/day and gradually increase to the full dose of 10 drops 3 times/day. Back off if you experience Herxheimer/die-off reactions. Then slowly increase again. Pour a little clean water in a cup, shake the rizol bottle rhythmically until the desired number of drops have fallen in the cup, add water to the mix. The turbulence is enough to create a homogenous white mily fluid that tastes ok.
Depending on your intestinal uptake, there may be burning in the anus with the next bowel movement (if the oil is not taken up in the intestinal passage). This may be a sign to go on to State II:
Add 1/3 to 1 tsp Phospholipid Exchange and stir in the mix (see Stage I). This will dramatically increase the uptake of the rizol in the lymphatic system of the gut and cleanse the GALT (gut-associated-lymphatic-system). As soon as the rizol has done its job here, it will travel via the large central lymph duct into the veins, from here to the lungs, liver, kidney and eventually into the brain. Wherever it reaches, it chases the pathogenic microbes out of this area. There may be significant die-off reactions at unpredictable times. No serious lasting untoward effects have been observed however.
It is best to combine this treatment with the salt/Vit C parasite cleanse. German practitioners have recommended this treatment for many months, until ``the job is done''. Lyme patients have been on this regimen for as long as a year without problems.
It is absolutely important to supplement healthy bowel flora (suggest the products from BII), which should be taken after meals - away from rizoles. The rizoles are best taken on an empty stomach. Do not take the rizoles late at night since die-off reactions may disturb the deep sleep (which is so important for healing).
Rizoles are also called ``ozonides''. However, the correct biochemical name is ``rizol''. They were developed by Professor and Chief of the Department of Chemistry, Dr. Gerhard Steidl of the University of Erlangen, Germany. The scientific research of the rizoles was conducted by Prof. Steidl under the auspices of the Karl and Veronica Carstens Foundation in Essen, Germany, the largest naturopathic research foundation in the world: Jahrbuch Band 3 der Karl and Veronica Carstens Stiftung, Hippokrates Verlag, Stuttgart, Germany 1996 ISBN 3-7773-1295-9 (Subtitle: Untersuchungen zur Wirkungsweise langkettiger Ozonide auf eukariotische humane Zellen, Pilz- und Tumorzellen, Biochemische und zellbiologische Effekte. Investigation into the effect of long chain ozonides on eucariotic human cells, yeast and tumorcells, Biochemical and cell-biological effects).
Currently the oils are only used in the US for bath, even though they are used for a wide variety of indications in Europe, including infections (anaerobic bacteria, oxygen sensitive fungi such as Candida, Cryptococcus and histoplasma, most parasites and many viruses (parvo, corona, all 8 herpes viruses, adenovirus, rota and most prions), periodontal disease, chronic fatigue, constipation, depression, ADHD, clostridia.
Side effects: activation of the M-cells (peritoneal macrophages) and activation of lymphocytes can cause transient inflammation in affected body areas and the oils have therefore diagnostic properties. The dose should be greatly reduced if and when this occurs until the reaction subsides. Regular Herzheimer reactions are expected and common.
Rizoles ingredients can be found on www.biopureus.com or in the BioPure product manual available by contacting BioPure.
Take care.
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It's good to hear that you are feeling a shift using the essential oils. It does sound like you are herxing.
I remember how relieved I felt when I could finally read and register what I was reading again. This illness has so many weird and disturbing symptoms.
The essential oils helped me to get to sleep too. I hadn't been able to sleep for days at a time before using the oils, and once I started using them regularly, I never had problems getting to sleep.
I sometimes still had bad dreams, or I often slept way too much, but I didn't get insomnia any more.
The essential oils are very potent medicinals, used in their pure form, or ozonated as Gigi mentions.
They don't need to be ozonated though, to encourage better oxygenation in the body. They have that property anyhow.
Farah
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Thank you Farah and Gigi for so much great and useful information!
I have been using one drop of Frankincense, Lemon, Lavender, German chamomile and Geranium (solely or in different combinations) in jojoba oil and love the results.
Although sometimes I think even these small amounts that I use result in a small herx affect, do not know if that is possible.
Thanks for sharing!
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For microbial infections such as Lyme, etc., they need to be ozonated. The research is almost a hundred years old.
I very much disagree with your comment, Farah.
"They don't need to be ozonated though, to encourage better oxygenation in the body. They have that property anyhow."
The Ozonides are what makes these oils so much more effective. They hinder the propagation of a great number of microbes, candida being one of them, staph, strep, aspergillus niger, etc. etc., and more as I described in my post above. You might want to do some research into the Germany publications. That is where the extensive research has been taking place.
Ozonated oils have been researched and used since the early 1900's - they only fell by the wayside with the advent of antibiotics in the 1940's.
They also (the ozonated oils) were specifically formulated and researched with regard to Borreliosis, etc. and also cancer. There is a huge difference between rizoles and the regular oils you have been discussing.
Please, the rizoles are one of the strongest weapons we have in our little hands right now. They work. Literally every patient of Dr. K. is on one or more of these specifically ozonated oils. I used the regular oils you are recommending a number of years ago ( but had a problem with the odors) before I found the Rizoles and there is no comparison in their effectiveness when discussing multiple microbial infections. They are made into a short drink, without any lingering smell all day and night (details on my post above).
Take care.
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Great post. Gigi, regarding phospholipids, where would you recommend getting them? Also, would the colonix product be sufficient for a parasite cleanse rather than the salt/vit. c ? Thank you.
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I have no experience with the Rizoles, and cannot comment on them. I have plenty of experience with the normal essential oils and have found them to be incredibly potent and effective for me. Essential oils have plenty of documented effects on many different bacteria without being ozonated. I have also taken the essential oils internally and had good effects. I also think that the normal essential oils are a lot more widely available and accessible here in the U.S. for people to learn about and check out for themselves. I don't doubt the potency of the rizoles. I do know for myself in my own healing process how pivotal use of the essential oils was.
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I just finished reading a book on essential oils and you should NOT take eucalyptus internally. I don't remember what it said about lemon, but I wrote it down about eucalyptus. Book was by Dr. Malan and Dr. Wallach.
If I remember you are on Buhner's protocol? Don't try too much at once--okay? Hiker
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Have been using Farah's blend externally for a few months now, which has lemon and eucalyptus in it.
Here is a recent topic where she discusses internal use that I found interesting:
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Bumping this up for others to see.
Is farah still around?
How about the other people who were using the essential oils? Are thy still here? If so, how are you doing and do you think the essential oils helped?
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Crazy informative thread.
Any suggestions for oils to be applied to the top of my head??
I have lost a ton of hair and I've had many doctors tell me that the bacteria loves the hair follicles.
I wanna kill those *******s and grow some of my hair back. I'm 26... shouldn't be losing hair by the pound.
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I'm bringing this thread up again. It's so incredibly informative!
Not sure where Farah went off to but her info still is full of wisdom.
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This is a timely topic for me, since I happened on the therapeutic benefit of the lemon oils found in Limoncello liquer. Now you all might not want to try Limoncello due to either the alcohol or the sugar, but having taken it for over a week now, I can say that I've gotten much better.
My herxes are now quite mild compared to what they were the first day. In fact, my eyes don't close up at all when I drink it. I AM diluting it quite a lot, and am not drinking it straight. I think that's better and also easier on the body to dilute it.
How are you? I've stumbled across a new weapon in my treatment. I can't necessarily recommend it to you, but I will share it and you can decide whether or not you want to try it. I went to Italy a couple of years ago and while I was there heard a lot about an Italian liquer called Limoncello. It's made by steeping lemon rind in alcohol and then diluting with water and sweetening with sugar. I never tasted it while I was there, and recently felt a little deprived, so while I was in a liquor store, I saw a small bottle of it, and decided to buy it. That night I had a little bit, and to my surprise, my eyes started closing up and I had to go to bed. My eyes closing is the classic herx for me.
I had a hard time waking up and the next day remained groggy for most of the day. Nevertheless, I had it again the next night and it happened again, but less severely than the first night. I've been having a little (about 1oz) every night for about a week, and am now feeling very well. I've definitely been herxing hard the whole time, but the herxes have been getting less and less every day. If you decide to try it, you should dilute the 1oz of Limoncello in a large glass of water. I dilute 1 oz with about 10-12 oz of water/ice.
1 oz may be too much for you to take, however, because your bacteria load is probably much higher than mine, so if you decide to try it, I think you should start very conservatively, maybe adding with just 1/4 teaspoon in a glass of water first.
When I had this reaction, I decided to read up on Limoncello, and when I read how it was made, I realized that it must contain a lot of the lemon essential oils. Lemon oils apparently have very strong antimicrobial qualities
If any of you decide you want to try lemon essential oils or Limoncello, use caution and start with very small doses so you can get an idea of how your body will respond. You don't want to herx too strongly.
Here's some info on lemon oil that I found online.
LEMON OIL
Organically grown lemons are stripped of their skins and the rinds are cold-pressed to extract lemon oil. A kilo of lemon oil is extracted from about three thousand lemon rinds. Some principal chemical compounds found in the lemon rind are the compound limonene, as well as gamma-terpinene, the compound called beta-pinene, the compound called alpha-pinene and the sabinene compound.
The meningococcus bacteria is killed off within fifteen minutes by the vaporized lemon essence, the typhoid bacilli takes just an hour to be eliminated in this treatment, in two hours the Staphylococcus aureus strain can be defeated using the essence, while the Pneumococcus bacterial strain will die off within three hours of use. As little as a 0.2 percent solution made of the lemon oil will result in the elimination of the diphtheria bacterial strain in twenty minutes. This same dilute solution also acts to permanently inactivate the tuberculosis bacterial strain.
The strong anti-septic like properties of the lemon oil is one well researched effect. Lemon also contains classes of compounds that are being investigated for their immune function in the laboratory.
Various types of digestive problems, soreness in the throat, persistent anxiety, blood pressure problems, digestive and different types of respiratory infections may also be beneficially treated using the remedies made from the lemon. The lemon based remedy aids the formation and development of leukocytes in the blood, it helps improve and boost the memory, it actively strengthens nails, and also induces a sense of well being in the person, while having a cleansing effect on the skin. At the same time, anti-depressant effects induced by the lemon oil have also been observed in human trials under clinical test conditions.
The therapeutic grade essential oil of lemon has a great potency, and there are no known virus or bacterial agent which can live in the presence of this oil for any length of time - not a single strain or viral particle capable of resisting this oil has been found to date. Viruses often mutate and develop immunity to any class of antibiotics; however, no virus has been able to breach the potency of the essential oils present in the lemon. Hospitals in Europe and England made extensive use of the lemon oil and it is still diffused these days as well. One very unique blend of the essential oils was placed under clinical trials at Weber State University, in order to gauge the potency of the antimicrobial actions; the results astounded the researchers as the kill rate of the oil was 99.96 percent against common airborne bacterial pathogens.
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If anyone intends to take essential oils internally, please be aware that most oils are of 'perfume quality', so you need to be sure that any you ingest are suitable....be prepared to spend more.
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Thanks to Brussels (a thousand posts amazing!!)and others for boosting this valuable thread.
What I am trying is just focusing on one essential oil otherwise I just go toxic. Is this because my body just needs one frequency rather than several?? Possibly see my link.
But which one???? There are hundreds out there!!!!Now I agree with others that peppermint and the citrus fruit ones are the most easy to take. And of those peppermint for me is best. But I use a lots of it, neat on the skin, internally. I get through a bottle of week. Early days but but so far so good. I take it every couple of hours. Each to his own strategy. I have read several French books on essential oils who lead the world on this.www.biospiritual-energy-healing.com
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The link :Vibrational Frequency and the Subtle Energy Nature of Essential Oils
There is a subtle bio-energy that flows through all organic life. It goes by many names and is sometimes referred to as Chi or life force. This energy is expressed as an electromagnetic vibrational frequency - and pure essential oils have the highest frequencies of any measured natural substance.
What is vibrational frequency? And why do we care about it?
A review of our grade school science lessons reminds us that everything vibrates. Every atom in the universe has a specific vibratory or periodic motion. Each periodic motion has a frequency (the number of oscillations per second) that can be measured in Hertz. Every element in the Periodic Table has a specific vibratory frequency.
Most plants (and animals) use enzymes to break down molecular components during their life processes. And each of these enzymes has a unique crystalline form with a specific vibratory frequency.
The vibrational frequency of an oil reflects the integrity of these elements and enzymes embodied within its substance -its bio-energy or life force and its original intent. This factors into an oil's potential therapeutic value.
Measuring Vibrational Frequencies
During his work with plants, soil, and water in his agricultural projects, Bruce Tainio of Tainio Technology invented and built a machine called a BT3 Frequency Monitoring System. This device - modified and perfected over the years - used a highly sensitive sensor to measure bio-electrical frequencies of plant nutrients and essential oils.
To summarize how it worked - As a Hertzian wave is generated and travels out from its source, it transfers energy to the objects it passes through. The frequency monitor's sensor measures the nano voltage of that wave, using the predominant frequency in the megahertz range, filtering out the lower and higher ranges. The BT3 measures the composite frequency of the vibratory emissions in electrical voltage - MHz - of the elements and enzymes remaining in the oils.
See - www.coherentresources.com/bt3_monitor.php Although Tainio no longer produces the BT3 Monitor for reasons noted on the website, the findings gleaned from his research conducted over the years with this device are remarkable.
For example, here are the average frequencies of some of the therapeutic grade essential oils that have been measured:
The measured frequencies of essential oils begin at 52 MHz, the frequency of basil oil, and go as high as 320 MHz -- the frequency of rose oil. For comparison, fresh produce has a frequency up to 15 MHz, dry herbs from 12 to 22 MHz, and fresh herbs from 20 to 27 MHz. Processed and canned foods have no measurable frequency whatsoever. Human Electrical Frequencies and Fields
Dr. Robert O. Becker, in his book The Body Electric, tells us that the human body has an electrical frequency, and also that much about a person's health can be determined by its frequency levels.
In addition to his plant studies, Tainio developed a way to use his machine to measure human electrical vibrational frequency by taking readings on various points of the body and averaging those numbers together. His measurements indicate that the daytime frequency of a healthy human body vibrates in the range of 62 to 68 MHz.
Intriguing as Tainio's research is, its foundation may have been laid in the early years of the 20th century by Dr. Royal R. Rife, M.D. (1888-1971). Dr. Rife conducted research with a machine he developed called a ``frequency generator'' that applies currents of specific frequencies to the body. He concluded that every disease has a specific frequency.
According to Dr. Rife every cell, tissue and organ has its own vibratory resonance. Working with his frequency generator, he found that specific frequencies would destroy a cancer cell or a virus. His research demonstrated that certain frequencies could prevent the development of disease, and that others would neutralize disease.
Bjorn Nordenstrom, a radiologist from Stockholm, Sweden, discovered in the early 1980s that, by putting an electrode inside a tumor and running a milliamp of DC current through the electrode, he could dissolve a cancer tumor and stop its growth. He also found that the human body had electropositive and electronegative energy fields.
Studies conducted in 1992 by Tainio Technology, as an independent division of Eastern State University in Cheny, Washington, reinforce the findings of these earlier researchers. Tainio and colleagues determined that when a person's frequency drops below the optimum healthy range, the immune system is compromised. Findings supported by this research indicate that:
* Human cells can start to change (mutate) when their frequency drops below 62MHz. * 58 MHz is the frequency of your body when you have a cold or the flu. * When candida is present within your body, you vibrate at a frequency of 55MHz. * 52 MHz is the frequency of a body with Epstein-Barr virus present. * 42 MHz is the frequency of a body wherein cancer can appear. * When the death process begins - the frequency has been measured at 20 MHz.
Effects of Outside Influences on Body Frequency
The study of frequencies raises an important question - how do the frequencies of substances found in our environment affect our personal frequency? Based on his studies, researcher Nikola Tesla said that, if we could eliminate certain outside frequencies that interfered in our bodies, we would have greater resistance toward disease.
Pathogens have a low frequency. Pollutants - both particulate and radiation (EMF) - lower a healthy frequency. Processed and canned food having a frequency of zero can greatly diminish a person's own frequency.
Even thoughts and feelings have a vibratory quality that forms a measurable frequency. A negative mental state can lower a person's frequency by 10-12 MHz.
Likewise, a substance or influencing factor - such as thoughts, emotions, and frequency devices - in our internal and external environments can also serve to raise our frequencies. For example, a positive mental attitude, prayer or meditation can raise it by 10-15 MHz.
A substance with a higher frequency can raise a lower frequency due to the principle of entrainment - the tendency for two oscillating bodies to lock into phase so that they vibrate in harmony. This principle is key to understanding the effect essential oils can have on our personal electromagnetic frequency.
However, different types of frequencies can have a chaotic or a harmonizing effect on our own systems. When something vibrates at many dissonant frequencies, it produces ``chaotic or incoherent frequencies.'' (David Stewart, The Chemistry of Essential Oils Made Simple).
For example, all of the electrical devices in your home - lamps, television, radio, phone, microwave - emit electromagnetic vibrational frequencies. But they use AC (alternating current) electrical frequencies that are incoherent and chaotic. Their effect is to fracture the human electrical field.
By contrast, Dr. Rife's frequency generator and most naturally occurring substances -including essential oils - have a coherent DC (direct current) frequency which resonates harmoniously with the electrical field of the human body. The Healing Process and the Subtle Energy Nature of Essential Oils
The human body vibrating within its normal vibratory range between 62 and 68 MHz is considered in a state of health. But energy disturbances in the subtle bodies will actually precede the appearance of disease and illness in the physical body.
The normally harmonious coherent frequencies of the body easily go out of ``tune'' when a person experiences physical or emotional stress. A blockage of the flow of life energy - characterized by inflammation, irritation and illness - can result. When the human frequency range drops below the norm of 62 megahertz, this is when abnormal processes can begin to develop.
When disease and illness are present, they may manifest as chemical imbalances. But underlying this is an electromagnetic imbalance that has altered the specific vibrational frequencies of molecules, cells, tissues and organs within the body.
Properly ``retuning'' the body to its original frequency brings it into balance and restores its natural harmonic resonance - illness either doesn't manifest or is resolved.
Dr. Richard Gerber MD, author of Vibrational Medicine, tells us that one of the best ways we can change dysfunctional patterns in our energy bodies is to administer therapeutic doses of ``frequency-specific subtle energy in the form of vibrational medicines.''
And researcher Jim Oschman, PhD, who wrote Energy Medicine, refers to natural substances from the plant kingdom he calls ``energetic pharmacology'' (as distinguished from chemical pharmacology). Therapeutic grade essential oils produce coherent frequencies that are naturally tuned to the health of our bodies. Pharmaceuticals and synthetic oils do not.
The intention of this healing process is to provide the correct frequency that will bring the body back to a state of coherence, to a state of equilibrium. Terry Friedman, in his book, Freedom Through Health tells us that raising our vibrational frequency aids in ``restoring health to the body, clarity to the mind and attunement to the spirit.''
By applying an essential oil with a particular frequency to the human body - through the principle of entrainment - the oil's higher frequency will raise the vibratory quality of that individual. When several oils are blended together, each having a different MHz frequency, a frequency will emerge that may be higher or lower than the various components. The therapeutic properties create special vibrational remedies capable of healing or rebalancing the body/mind/soul/spirit.
And because each oil has a specific frequency, and our organs and body systems and the nutrients needed to maintain optimum health each have their specific frequencies, the oil's electrical affinity to these components of our bodies will enhance and support these organs and body systems, and will aid in the assimilation of nutrients.
Essential oils in the higher frequency ranges tend to influence the emotions. EOs in the lower frequencies have more effect on structural and physical changes, including cells, hormones, and bones, as well as viruses, bacteria, and fungi.
Essential oils don't resonate with the toxins in our bodies. This incompatibility is what helps eliminate the toxins from our systems. Neither do they resonate with negative emotions. So they can help dislodge forgotten traumas by surfacing them in our consciousness where we can deal with them and let them go.
``Clinical research shows that essential oils have the highest frequency of any natural substance known to man, creating an environment in which disease, bacteria, virus, fungus, etc., cannot live. I believe that the chemistry and frequencies of essential oils have the ability to help man maintain the optimal frequency to the extent that disease cannot exist.''
Gary Young of Young Living Essential Oils
The beauty of using therapeutic grade essential oils to restore coherent healthy vibrational frequencies to the body is that they are:
* Affordable * Accessible * Effective * Versatile
Essential oils offer us a natural way to restore our body's healthy electromagnetic vibrational frequency. The elegance of their holism allows for easy functionality in our daily lives. Their constant subtle presence gently resonates with our body's electrical fields aiding and restoring harmonic health and well-being on all levels.
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Great article Wallace! Thanks!!
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Hi Faithful777, which of the Young Living Oils do you prefer and how do you use it?
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A naturopath told yes better just to stick with one essential oil. Otherwise multiple frequencies can confuse the immune system. So I will do this!We need to purify and simplify our lives she said!!!
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Thanks, Faithful777, for your response: it really sounds as if you make good use of them.
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Using essential oils internally has so far been the biggest regret in my life, yes my life.
It woke up a DEEP rooted Bartonella/Myco infection in my CNS and I haven't been the same since. (been fighting for my ife DAILY as a result of that one mistake)
Sometimes letting sleeping dogs lie is best imo.
For the record I took Oregano Oil and a few others by Young Living Oils.
I would use them in diffusers to maybe clean a room or car or something... but I will never took an essential oil for the rest of my life lol
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