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When I'm healthy enough again to get out and about, I'd like to resume hiking. More than once I've carried home ticks after they climbed onto my pants legs or socks during a hike. It's possibly the way I contracted lyme.
Today I saw advertisements for flea and tick collars for pets, and thought, hey, if I wore a tick repellant one on each ankle during a hike, would that offer any protection? Anyone ever heard of such a thing being tried? Are those products suitable for human use?
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if i remember right, i think they tell you to wash your hands after touching the flea collars. I think they maybe toxic.
That would be a great invention though....one made for humans to wear. i would do anything to protect myself.
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Hey, what a great idea!
Wear them over socks or pants, not on bare skin.
Now, just don't sit on any stone walls or fallen logs. Or lean against trees...
I got a tick on the back of my leg many years ago, after sitting at a picnic table, located right at the edge of the woods.
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I have done this before! I wrap them around my ankles/socks, I am talking about herbal ones, not chemicals. I also wear the bug shirt and REPEL clothes. I put essential oils of peppermint, lavender, and citronella on my legs too. Deet on the boots (not skin) and wear the Bug Shirt gaiters in the light color! Permethrin works well on clothes too.
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I attended a lecture held by an epidemiologist for Aberdeen Proving Grounds who strongly discouraged the use of tick collars for people. (Seems some of the soldiers in IRAQ were using them and got sick).
She recommends a spray (in any sporting goods store.) You can now also buy clothing treated with permethrin (which is what I spray my yard with). It lasts for 25 washings.
I also understand the military soaks clothing in permethrin which is good for 5 to 10 washings.
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My first batch of pets had flea collars only, but not in the winter. They lived to be 19, 16 and 13 years.
The new batch has had flea collars then drops and now back to collars because the drops weren't getting the fleas for more than two weeks per application. They are 11.5, 11.5 and 2.5 years.
I don't go in the woods anymore, and take garlic softgels daily, 1000mg, from May 1st thru the first frost. I don't get bit by anything.
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I think its a great idea, but I'm not crazy about pharmaceutical tick repellants -- very toxic. Also, many are NOT repellants, but only kill ticks after long (at least 24 hour) contact.
I've been researching natural alternatives for tick repellents, for my pets and myself. Rose geranium seems to be the best for ticks (and citronella one of the poorest for all bugs), but I haven't found really good studies published on it (but I put some recipies below). Anyway, I'm trying it, although I'm backing it up with frontline plus on the dog.
And here's a link to a product that at least one person I trust swears by -- its for people and pets. Haven't tried it myself, but I plan to as we come into tick season: http://kingcart.com/Behappy/product=Bugrepel
Would love to hear, from those who tried it, how this works.
Essential-oil repellents:
Tick Repellent
From Holistic Aromatherapy for Animals written by Kristen Leigh Bell: Her recipe for Tick repellent: 1/2 oz. base oil 2 drops Geranium, Pelargonium graveolens essential oil 2 drops Rosewood, Aniba roseadora 3 drops Lavender 2 drops Myrrh, Commiphora myrrha 2 drops Opoponax, Commiphora erythraea 1 drop Bay Leaf, Pimento racemosa
Apply 2-4 drops topically to the neck, chest, legs and tail base of the dog. You can also add the drops to a bandanna or cotton collar.
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Rose Geranium oil truly does repel ticks and other bugs if mixed with lavender and clove oils.
Tick Repellant More Pest Control Solutions by Annie Berthold-Bond, Care2.com Producer, Green Living Channels I dug deep in my herbal formula books for this recipe out of desperation, given that I live in the epicenter of the tick-generated Lyme disease epidemic. I tested the essential oil that is recommended for ticks, Rose Geranium, by putting a few drops--no more!-- on our dogs' collars, to see if it would repel ticks. Lo and behold, we went from 20 ticks a day on each dog, to none. The second best essential oil for repelling ticks is American Pennyroyal (also called tickweed). Simple Solution: printer friendly version
* 2 tablespoons vegetable or nut oil (almond oil contains sulfur, a repellent in its own right) * 10 to 25 drops Rose Geranium essential oil Combine the ingredients in a glass jar; shake to blend. Makes: 2 tablespoons Shelf Life: 6 months Dab a few drops on your skin or clothing, making sure to avoid eyes.
_____________________________ How effective are repellents that don't contain DEET? Other products do work to repel bugs; just not as long. In a July 2002 New England Journal of Medicine study, researchers placed their repellent-covered arms into a cage of mosquitoes. A DEET product with 23.8% concentration (Deep Woods Off!) kept mosquitoes away the longest -- 301.5 minutes.
But non-DEET products made a respectable showing. Oil of eucalyptus at 30% concentration staved a bite off for 120.1 minutes, while Bite Blocker, with 2% soybean oil, kept bites away for 94.6 minutes. Citronella, a commonly used alternative to DEET performed poorly, keeping bugs away for less than 20 minutes.
The American Academy of Pediatrics says DEET products shouldn't be used on infants younger than two months, but it's safe to use concentrations up to 30% on kids.
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